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    john d hamilton Guest

    Default cleaver..woodwork or butchers tool ?

    Helping to clear out an old garden shed in London u.k., we found this
    cleaver.

    Its pretty ancient probably from about 1910 or so.

    Some think it's a woodworking tool or similar, and others think its a
    butchers cleaver, although some think not, because butchers cleavers are
    usually much bigger and you can see from the photo it's really quite small.
    it also has the number 6 stamped on the blade. anyone any idea what its
    original purpose was likely to be? thanks.

    photo on tinypic website:
    http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=33y5a9u&s=4



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    James Silverton Guest

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    john wrote on Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:14:30 +0100:

    > Its pretty ancient probably from about 1910 or so.


    > Some think it's a woodworking tool or similar, and others
    > think its a butchers cleaver, although some think not, because
    > butchers cleavers are usually much bigger and you can see from
    > the photo it's really quite small. it also has the number 6
    > stamped on the blade. anyone any idea what its original
    > purpose was likely to be? thanks.


    Looks like a butcher's tool but do a Google search on

    adze cleaver

    and you will find that they are sometimes synonyms for a woodworking
    tool rather like a broad bladed axe. (I could almost imagine a medieval
    executioner using one.)

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    Potomac, Maryland

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    Sheldon Guest

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    On Oct 23, 11:14�am, "john d hamilton" <blues...@mail.invalid> wrote:
    > Helping to clear out an old garden shed in London u.k., we found this
    > cleaver.
    >
    > Its pretty ancient probably from about 1910 or so.
    >
    > Some think it's a woodworking tool or similar, and others think its a
    > butchers cleaver, although some think not, because butchers cleavers are
    > usually much bigger and you can see from the photo it's really quite small.
    > it also has the number 6 stamped on the blade. � anyone any idea what its
    > original purpose was likely to be? � thanks.
    >
    > photo on tinypic website:http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=33y5a9u&s=4


    Obviously a butcher's cleaver. Butcher's cleavers are available in
    many sizes and configurations... no law says that tool can't be used
    for splitting wood stove kindling but so can any cleaver and many
    other tools... could just as easily split kindling with a big old
    kraut chef's knife.

    http://www.alliedkenco.com/catalog/a...imageField.y=9

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    Omelet Guest

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    In article <gdq4dp$rh8$[email protected]>,
    "john d hamilton" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Helping to clear out an old garden shed in London u.k., we found this
    > cleaver.
    >
    > Its pretty ancient probably from about 1910 or so.
    >
    > Some think it's a woodworking tool or similar, and others think its a
    > butchers cleaver, although some think not, because butchers cleavers are
    > usually much bigger and you can see from the photo it's really quite small.
    > it also has the number 6 stamped on the blade. anyone any idea what its
    > original purpose was likely to be? thanks.
    >
    > photo on tinypic website:
    > http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=33y5a9u&s=4


    Looks like a kitchen cleaver to me... That hole in the end of the blade
    is for hanging it from kitchen hooks.
    --
    Peace! Om

    "Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

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    notbob Guest

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    On 2008-10-23, john d hamilton <[email protected]> wrote:

    > it also has the number 6 stamped on the blade. anyone any idea what its
    > original purpose was likely to be? thanks.


    My vote is meat cleaver.

    nb

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    Rusty Guest

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    It's a prop for the movie Halloween.

    Rusty

    "notbob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > On 2008-10-23, john d hamilton <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> it also has the number 6 stamped on the blade. anyone any idea what its
    >> original purpose was likely to be? thanks.

    >
    > My vote is meat cleaver.
    >
    > nb




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    [email protected] Guest

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    On Oct 23, 11:59 am, Omelet <ompome...@gmail.com> wrote:
    > In article <gdq4dp$rh...@registered.motzarella.org>,
    > "john d hamilton" <blues...@mail.invalid> wrote:
    >
    > > Helping to clear out an old garden shed in London u.k., we found this
    > > cleaver.

    >
    > > Its pretty ancient probably from about 1910 or so.

    >
    > > Some think it's a woodworking tool or similar, and others think its a
    > > butchers cleaver, although some think not, because butchers cleavers are
    > > usually much bigger and you can see from the photo it's really quite small.
    > > it also has the number 6 stamped on the blade. anyone any idea what its
    > > original purpose was likely to be? thanks.

    >
    > > photo on tinypic website:
    > >http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=33y5a9u&s=4

    >
    > Looks like a kitchen cleaver to me... That hole in the end of the blade
    > is for hanging it from kitchen hooks.


    Actually it's for hanging on the sign over the chisels that reads
    "These are not screwdrivers."







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    Sheldon Guest

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    On Oct 23, 2:09�pm, LEGEN...@yahoo.com wrote:
    > On Oct 23, 11:59 am, Omelet <ompome...@gmail.com> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > In article <gdq4dp$rh...@registered.motzarella.org>,
    > > �"john d hamilton" <blues...@mail.invalid> wrote:

    >
    > > > Helping to clear out an old garden shed in London u.k., we found this
    > > > cleaver.

    >
    > > > Its pretty ancient probably from about 1910 or so.

    >
    > > > Some think it's a woodworking tool or similar, and others think its a
    > > > butchers cleaver, although some think not, because butchers cleavers are
    > > > usually much bigger and you can see from the photo it's really quite small.
    > > > it also has the number 6 stamped on the blade. � anyone any idea what its
    > > > original purpose was likely to be? � thanks.

    >
    > > > photo on tinypic website:
    > > >http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=33y5a9u&s=4

    >
    > > Looks like a kitchen cleaver to me... �That hole in the end of the blade
    > > is for hanging it from kitchen hooks.

    >
    > Actually it's for hanging on the sign over the chisels that reads
    > "These are not screwdrivers."


    Actually it's for hanging up your ass on a rusty nail!

    Ahahahahahahahaha. . . .


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    Elly Guest

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    "Rusty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:d43Mk.3684$[email protected]..
    > It's a prop for the movie Halloween.
    >
    > Rusty
    >
    > "notbob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]..
    >> On 2008-10-23, john d hamilton <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>> it also has the number 6 stamped on the blade. anyone any idea what
    >>> its
    >>> original purpose was likely to be? thanks.

    >>
    >> My vote is meat cleaver.
    >>
    >> nb

    >
    >

    My mother had exactly the same cleaver. She used it to chop spinach.
    It came with a wooden board that was oddly shaped, being higher on
    one side than the other, with a ridge only on one side to hold the spinach.
    This was in The Netherlands just after WWII. I don't know how long
    she had it. Could have been pretty old. She was born in the year 1900.

    Elly



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    SteveB Guest

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    "john d hamilton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:gdq4dp$rh8$[email protected]..
    > Helping to clear out an old garden shed in London u.k., we found this
    > cleaver.
    >
    > Its pretty ancient probably from about 1910 or so.
    >
    > Some think it's a woodworking tool or similar, and others think its a
    > butchers cleaver, although some think not, because butchers cleavers are
    > usually much bigger and you can see from the photo it's really quite
    > small. it also has the number 6 stamped on the blade. anyone any idea
    > what its original purpose was likely to be? thanks.
    >
    > photo on tinypic website:
    > http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=33y5a9u&s=4


    My vote goes to cleaver. Cleavers can be small, too. I have a very small
    knife that looks like a cleaver. It can be used as a knife or cleaver, but
    I hesitate to start smacking stuff with it, as it is so sharp. This one I
    have is some off beat name, but had one in another marriage that was Joyce
    Chen, IIRC. They are fantastically sharp, and useful as heck, almost the
    one you'd take if you could only have one knife in the house. I really like
    mine.

    Steve



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    bugbear Guest

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    john d hamilton wrote:
    > Helping to clear out an old garden shed in London u.k., we found this
    > cleaver.
    >
    > Its pretty ancient probably from about 1910 or so.
    >
    > Some think it's a woodworking tool or similar, and others think its a
    > butchers cleaver, although some think not, because butchers cleavers are
    > usually much bigger and you can see from the photo it's really quite small.
    > it also has the number 6 stamped on the blade. anyone any idea what its
    > original purpose was likely to be? thanks.
    >
    > photo on tinypic website:
    > http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=33y5a9u&s=4


    At the risk of mixing adjectives, I'd say it's a
    domestic butcher's cleaver, i.e. a domestic
    tool used for the same purposes as a butcher's
    cleaver, but on a smaller scale.

    It's certainly not a woodworking tool
    (a field in which I have some knowledge).

    BugBear

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    bugbear Guest

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    Blinky the Shark Guest

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    john d hamilton wrote:

    > Helping to clear out an old garden shed in London u.k., we found this
    > cleaver.


    "Cleave" is an interesting word: it means both cutting apart and clinging
    together.


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    Giusi Guest

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    "Blinky the Shark"
    > john d hamilton wrote:
    >
    >> Helping to clear out an old garden shed in London u.k., we found this
    >> cleaver.

    >
    > "Cleave" is an interesting word: it means both cutting apart and clinging
    > together.
    >
    >
    > --
    > Blinky


    And we often do one while trying to do the other.



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    cybercat Guest

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    "Giusi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    >
    >
    > "Blinky the Shark"
    >> john d hamilton wrote:
    >>
    >>> Helping to clear out an old garden shed in London u.k., we found this
    >>> cleaver.

    >>
    >> "Cleave" is an interesting word: it means both cutting apart and clinging
    >> together.
    >>
    >>
    >> --
    >> Blinky

    >
    > And we often do one while trying to do the other.
    >

    Very profound. and true.



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    Omelet Guest

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    In article
    <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] wrote:

    > On Oct 23, 11:59 am, Omelet <ompome...@gmail.com> wrote:
    > > In article <gdq4dp$rh...@registered.motzarella.org>,
    > > "john d hamilton" <blues...@mail.invalid> wrote:
    > >
    > > > Helping to clear out an old garden shed in London u.k., we found this
    > > > cleaver.

    > >
    > > > Its pretty ancient probably from about 1910 or so.

    > >
    > > > Some think it's a woodworking tool or similar, and others think its a
    > > > butchers cleaver, although some think not, because butchers cleavers are
    > > > usually much bigger and you can see from the photo it's really quite
    > > > small.
    > > > it also has the number 6 stamped on the blade. anyone any idea what its
    > > > original purpose was likely to be? thanks.

    > >
    > > > photo on tinypic website:
    > > >http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=33y5a9u&s=4

    > >
    > > Looks like a kitchen cleaver to me... That hole in the end of the blade
    > > is for hanging it from kitchen hooks.

    >
    > Actually it's for hanging on the sign over the chisels that reads
    > "These are not screwdrivers."


    <lol>

    Been there, done that.
    --
    Peace! Om

    "Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

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    Omelet Guest

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    In article <[email protected] >,
    bugbear <bugbear@trim_papermule.co.uk_trim> wrote:

    > [email protected] wrote:
    > > Actually it's for hanging on the sign over the chisels that reads
    > > "These are not screwdrivers."

    >
    > Is that next to the sign over the screwdrivers that reads:
    >
    > "These are not pry bars"
    >
    > ?
    > BugBear


    <LOL>!!!
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    Peace! Om

    "Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

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