Thread: cholesterol

On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 03:38:26 +0000 (UTC), gregz wrote:

> On the news there was a report of cooking with sesame seed and rice bran
> oil to reduce blood pressure and cholesterol, but it did not compare other
> oils. Do they think those are better ?

You watched the un-named news report - you tell us!

<boggle>

I tell you want, that whole "bacon shortage" thing was a farce, too.
And I'm sick of hearing every other news agency repeat it. Don't
believe anything you hear on the news. They're just out to manipulate
you. You are not their customer, but rather you are the product being
sold.

-sw

Sqwertz <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 03:38:26 +0000 (UTC), gregz wrote:
>
>> On the news there was a report of cooking with sesame seed and rice bran
>> oil to reduce blood pressure and cholesterol, but it did not compare other
>> oils. Do they think those are better ?
>
> You watched the un-named news report - you tell us!
>

Tv Channel kdka Pittsburgh.

I had. To search recent news was in huffington. Perhaps it's because the
test was done in india.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1900551.html

Greg

> <boggle>
>
> I tell you want, that whole "bacon shortage" thing was a farce, too.
> And I'm sick of hearing every other news agency repeat it. Don't
> believe anything you hear on the news. They're just out to manipulate
> you. You are not their customer, but rather you are the product being
> sold.
>
> -sw

"gregz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Sqwertz <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 03:38:26 +0000 (UTC), gregz wrote:
>>
>>> On the news there was a report of cooking with sesame seed and rice bran
>>> oil to reduce blood pressure and cholesterol, but it did not compare
>>> other
>>> oils. Do they think those are better ?
>>
>> You watched the un-named news report - you tell us!
>>
>
> Tv Channel kdka Pittsburgh.
>
> I had. To search recent news was in huffington. Perhaps it's because the
> test was done in india.
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1900551.html

I am to the point now where I don't believe anything said about food on the
news unless of course it is a recall or something.

They said eggs were bad. Then good. Then on and on.

Margarine was better! No! Butter was better. Back and forth on that.

During the 80's they touted oat bran. Then they said the studies were
flawed.

Who knows? Eat what you like.

On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:20:06 -0700, "Julie Bove"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"gregz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]r.org...
>> Sqwertz <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 03:38:26 +0000 (UTC), gregz wrote:
>>>
>>>> On the news there was a report of cooking with sesame seed and rice bran
>>>> oil to reduce blood pressure and cholesterol, but it did not compare
>>>> other
>>>> oils. Do they think those are better ?
>>>
>>> You watched the un-named news report - you tell us!
>>>
>>
>> Tv Channel kdka Pittsburgh.
>>
>> I had. To search recent news was in huffington. Perhaps it's because the
>> test was done in india.
>>
>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1900551.html
>
>I am to the point now where I don't believe anything said about food on the
>news unless of course it is a recall or something.
>
>They said eggs were bad. Then good. Then on and on.
>
>Margarine was better! No! Butter was better. Back and forth on that.
>
>During the 80's they touted oat bran. Then they said the studies were
>flawed.
>
>Who knows? Eat what you like.

I think saturated fats have always been bad.

--
John

"John John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:20:06 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>"gregz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]r.org...
>>> Sqwertz <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 03:38:26 +0000 (UTC), gregz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On the news there was a report of cooking with sesame seed and rice
>>>>> bran
>>>>> oil to reduce blood pressure and cholesterol, but it did not compare
>>>>> other
>>>>> oils. Do they think those are better ?
>>>>
>>>> You watched the un-named news report - you tell us!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Tv Channel kdka Pittsburgh.
>>>
>>> I had. To search recent news was in huffington. Perhaps it's because the
>>> test was done in india.
>>>
>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1900551.html
>>
>>I am to the point now where I don't believe anything said about food on
>>the
>>news unless of course it is a recall or something.
>>
>>They said eggs were bad. Then good. Then on and on.
>>
>>Margarine was better! No! Butter was better. Back and forth on that.
>>
>>During the 80's they touted oat bran. Then they said the studies were
>>flawed.
>>
>>Who knows? Eat what you like.
>
> I think saturated fats have always been bad.
>

I don't think that is true for all saturated fats.

On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 16:46:01 +1000, John John <[email protected]>
wrote:


>I think saturated fats have always been bad.

For some, NOT for others.

I ate saturated fats most of my life, and my cholesterol is just fine
without any medication at all.

I have a friend that has eaten 'healthy' ALL his life, and his is thru
the roof (over 400) WHILE he's on medication!








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On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:53:22 -0700, The Other Guy
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 16:46:01 +1000, John John <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>
>>I think saturated fats have always been bad.
>
>For some, NOT for others.
>
>I ate saturated fats most of my life, and my cholesterol is just fine
>without any medication at all.
>
>I have a friend that has eaten 'healthy' ALL his life, and his is thru
>the roof (over 400) WHILE he's on medication!

Yes, genetics play a big role too. But if you have a (potential)
cholesterol problem, saturated fats are the first thing to cut down
on. Or so I thought.

--
John

On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:47:38 -0700, "Reggie" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>"John John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]. .
>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:20:06 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"gregz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]r.org...
>>>> Sqwertz <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 03:38:26 +0000 (UTC), gregz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On the news there was a report of cooking with sesame seed and rice
>>>>>> bran
>>>>>> oil to reduce blood pressure and cholesterol, but it did not compare
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> oils. Do they think those are better ?
>>>>>
>>>>> You watched the un-named news report - you tell us!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tv Channel kdka Pittsburgh.
>>>>
>>>> I had. To search recent news was in huffington. Perhaps it's because the
>>>> test was done in india.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1900551.html
>>>
>>>I am to the point now where I don't believe anything said about food on
>>>the
>>>news unless of course it is a recall or something.
>>>
>>>They said eggs were bad. Then good. Then on and on.
>>>
>>>Margarine was better! No! Butter was better. Back and forth on that.
>>>
>>>During the 80's they touted oat bran. Then they said the studies were
>>>flawed.
>>>
>>>Who knows? Eat what you like.
>>
>> I think saturated fats have always been bad.
>>
>
>I don't think that is true for all saturated fats.

Which ones are ok?

--
John

"John John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]..
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:20:06 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>"gregz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]r.org...
>>> Sqwertz <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 03:38:26 +0000 (UTC), gregz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On the news there was a report of cooking with sesame seed and rice
>>>>> bran
>>>>> oil to reduce blood pressure and cholesterol, but it did not compare
>>>>> other
>>>>> oils. Do they think those are better ?
>>>>
>>>> You watched the un-named news report - you tell us!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Tv Channel kdka Pittsburgh.
>>>
>>> I had. To search recent news was in huffington. Perhaps it's because the
>>> test was done in india.
>>>
>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1900551.html
>>
>>I am to the point now where I don't believe anything said about food on
>>the
>>news unless of course it is a recall or something.
>>
>>They said eggs were bad. Then good. Then on and on.
>>
>>Margarine was better! No! Butter was better. Back and forth on that.
>>
>>During the 80's they touted oat bran. Then they said the studies were
>>flawed.
>>
>>Who knows? Eat what you like.
>
> I think saturated fats have always been bad.

Prolly but I don't eat enough of those to worry about it.

"John John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:47:38 -0700, "Reggie" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"John John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected] ..
>>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:20:06 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"gregz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>news:[email protected]r.org...
>>>>> Sqwertz <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 03:38:26 +0000 (UTC), gregz wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On the news there was a report of cooking with sesame seed and rice
>>>>>>> bran
>>>>>>> oil to reduce blood pressure and cholesterol, but it did not compare
>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>> oils. Do they think those are better ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You watched the un-named news report - you tell us!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tv Channel kdka Pittsburgh.
>>>>>
>>>>> I had. To search recent news was in huffington. Perhaps it's because
>>>>> the
>>>>> test was done in india.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1900551.html
>>>>
>>>>I am to the point now where I don't believe anything said about food on
>>>>the
>>>>news unless of course it is a recall or something.
>>>>
>>>>They said eggs were bad. Then good. Then on and on.
>>>>
>>>>Margarine was better! No! Butter was better. Back and forth on that.
>>>>
>>>>During the 80's they touted oat bran. Then they said the studies were
>>>>flawed.
>>>>
>>>>Who knows? Eat what you like.
>>>
>>> I think saturated fats have always been bad.
>>>
>>
>>I don't think that is true for all saturated fats.
>
> Which ones are ok?

Coconut oil.

On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 00:50:41 -0700, "Julie Bove"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"John John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]. .
>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:47:38 -0700, "Reggie" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"John John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected] ...
>>>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:20:06 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"gregz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>news:[email protected]r.org...
>>>>>> Sqwertz <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 03:38:26 +0000 (UTC), gregz wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On the news there was a report of cooking with sesame seed and rice
>>>>>>>> bran
>>>>>>>> oil to reduce blood pressure and cholesterol, but it did not compare
>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>> oils. Do they think those are better ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You watched the un-named news report - you tell us!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tv Channel kdka Pittsburgh.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had. To search recent news was in huffington. Perhaps it's because
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> test was done in india.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1900551.html
>>>>>
>>>>>I am to the point now where I don't believe anything said about food on
>>>>>the
>>>>>news unless of course it is a recall or something.
>>>>>
>>>>>They said eggs were bad. Then good. Then on and on.
>>>>>
>>>>>Margarine was better! No! Butter was better. Back and forth on that.
>>>>>
>>>>>During the 80's they touted oat bran. Then they said the studies were
>>>>>flawed.
>>>>>
>>>>>Who knows? Eat what you like.
>>>>
>>>> I think saturated fats have always been bad.
>>>>
>>>
>>>I don't think that is true for all saturated fats.
>>
>> Which ones are ok?
>
>Coconut oil.

What about this quote from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coconut_oil:

"As with dairy and meat products, the United States Food and Drug
Administration, World Health Organization, International College of
Nutrition, United States Department of Health and Human Services,
American Dietetic Association, American Heart Association, British
National Health Service, and Dietitians of Canada recommend limiting
the consumption of significant amounts of coconut oil due to its high
levels of saturated fat.

--
John

"Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> They said eggs were bad. Then good. Then on and on.

Recent reports say eggs are bad.
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/aug...oking-20120814

the National Heart Blood and Lung Institute recommends that to limit their
risk of developing heart disease, Americans limit their cholesterol intake
to no more than 300 mg per day (an egg yolk has just over 200 mg), and eat
no more than four whole eggs weekly, including those in baked goods or
processed foods. Those who already have heart disease, diabetes or high
LDL-cholesterol, or who have had a stroke, should limit their cholesterol to
less than 200 mg per day.

"Reggie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> I think saturated fats have always been bad.
>>
>
> I don't think that is true for all saturated fats.


all saturated fats are bad. As are all trans fats.

"The Other Guy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]..
> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 16:46:01 +1000, John John <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>>I think saturated fats have always been bad.
>
> For some, NOT for others.
>
> I ate saturated fats most of my life, and my cholesterol is just fine
> without any medication at all.
>
> I have a friend that has eaten 'healthy' ALL his life, and his is thru
> the roof (over 400) WHILE he's on medication!

400? Yikes!

My mom and dad had "meat and potatoes" just about every meal. And plentiful
eggs, yet their cholesterol was fine too... But I wouldn't recommend it. I
think genetics plays a big role.

"Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> Which ones are ok?
>
> Coconut oil.


egads! Even Mitt Romney would not make a joke like that.

"Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:k4697u$1ek$[email protected]..
> Coconut oil.

Olive Oil and Canola oils are rich in monosaturated and polyunsaturated, so
relatively healthy... I'd only use coconut oil if I was stuck on Gilligan's
Island.

On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 07:51:45 -0400, "Somebody" <[email protected]> wrote:

>"Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:k463u3$9ir$[email protected]..
>
>>
>> They said eggs were bad. Then good. Then on and on.
>
>Recent reports say eggs are bad.
>http://articles.latimes.com/2012/aug...oking-20120814

Aside from being one of the more seriously flawed studies - along with
the misleading headline-
http://www.shape.com/blogs/weight-lo...gs-bad-smoking

that study is *so* mid-August.
http://www.zest.co.uk/nutrition/why-...-you/2642.html

Jim

On 29/09/2012 7:59 AM, Somebody wrote:
> "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:k4697u$1ek$[email protected]..
>>> Which ones are ok?
>>
>> Coconut oil.
>
>
> egads! Even Mitt Romney would not make a joke like that.
>
>

The information booklet I got in cardiac rehab suggested eating lots of
fruit and vegetables, but in capitals it says ...NOT COCONUT. It is
apparently very high in cholesterol. When I asked about the claims of
health benefits of the good cholesterol it was suggested that is hype
from the people selling it. IN my situation, I think I am better off
following the advice of the health professionals.

"Jim Elbrecht" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 07:51:45 -0400, "Somebody" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>"Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:k463u3$9ir$[email protected]..
>>
>>>
>>> They said eggs were bad. Then good. Then on and on.
>>
>>Recent reports say eggs are bad.
>>http://articles.latimes.com/2012/aug...oking-20120814
>
> Aside from being one of the more seriously flawed studies - along with
> the misleading headline-
> http://www.shape.com/blogs/weight-lo...gs-bad-smoking
>
> that study is *so* mid-August.
> http://www.zest.co.uk/nutrition/why-...-you/2642.html
>
> Jim


well, I don't like the idea of contributing to factory farming, and the
cheap eggs we get are because of inhumanely treated chickens. If I buy some
again, it will be the cage free. I used to get egg beaters, but they have a
kinda plasticky taste. And must be from mass produced hen factories. I've
not seen "cage free" egg beaters. Maybe someday.

okay, I glanced at the article. Everything in moderation. Including
factory farming?

Thanks. Now I am confused and conflicted again about eggs.