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  1. #1
    gregz Guest

    Default cholesterol

    On the news there was a report of cooking with sesame seed and rice bran
    oil to reduce blood pressure and cholesterol, but it did not compare other
    oils. Do they think those are better ?

    Greg

  2. #2
    Sqwertz Guest

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    On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 03:38:26 +0000 (UTC), gregz wrote:

    > On the news there was a report of cooking with sesame seed and rice bran
    > oil to reduce blood pressure and cholesterol, but it did not compare other
    > oils. Do they think those are better ?


    You watched the un-named news report - you tell us!

    <boggle>

    I tell you want, that whole "bacon shortage" thing was a farce, too.
    And I'm sick of hearing every other news agency repeat it. Don't
    believe anything you hear on the news. They're just out to manipulate
    you. You are not their customer, but rather you are the product being
    sold.

    -sw

  3. #3
    gregz Guest

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    Sqwertz <[email protected]> wrote:
    > On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 03:38:26 +0000 (UTC), gregz wrote:
    >
    >> On the news there was a report of cooking with sesame seed and rice bran
    >> oil to reduce blood pressure and cholesterol, but it did not compare other
    >> oils. Do they think those are better ?

    >
    > You watched the un-named news report - you tell us!
    >


    Tv Channel kdka Pittsburgh.

    I had. To search recent news was in huffington. Perhaps it's because the
    test was done in india.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1900551.html

    Greg

    > <boggle>
    >
    > I tell you want, that whole "bacon shortage" thing was a farce, too.
    > And I'm sick of hearing every other news agency repeat it. Don't
    > believe anything you hear on the news. They're just out to manipulate
    > you. You are not their customer, but rather you are the product being
    > sold.
    >
    > -sw


  4. #4
    Julie Bove Guest

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    "gregz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]r.org...
    > Sqwertz <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 03:38:26 +0000 (UTC), gregz wrote:
    >>
    >>> On the news there was a report of cooking with sesame seed and rice bran
    >>> oil to reduce blood pressure and cholesterol, but it did not compare
    >>> other
    >>> oils. Do they think those are better ?

    >>
    >> You watched the un-named news report - you tell us!
    >>

    >
    > Tv Channel kdka Pittsburgh.
    >
    > I had. To search recent news was in huffington. Perhaps it's because the
    > test was done in india.
    >
    > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1900551.html


    I am to the point now where I don't believe anything said about food on the
    news unless of course it is a recall or something.

    They said eggs were bad. Then good. Then on and on.

    Margarine was better! No! Butter was better. Back and forth on that.

    During the 80's they touted oat bran. Then they said the studies were
    flawed.

    Who knows? Eat what you like.



  5. #5
    John John Guest

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    On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:20:06 -0700, "Julie Bove"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    >"gregz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]r.org...
    >> Sqwertz <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 03:38:26 +0000 (UTC), gregz wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> On the news there was a report of cooking with sesame seed and rice bran
    >>>> oil to reduce blood pressure and cholesterol, but it did not compare
    >>>> other
    >>>> oils. Do they think those are better ?
    >>>
    >>> You watched the un-named news report - you tell us!
    >>>

    >>
    >> Tv Channel kdka Pittsburgh.
    >>
    >> I had. To search recent news was in huffington. Perhaps it's because the
    >> test was done in india.
    >>
    >> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1900551.html

    >
    >I am to the point now where I don't believe anything said about food on the
    >news unless of course it is a recall or something.
    >
    >They said eggs were bad. Then good. Then on and on.
    >
    >Margarine was better! No! Butter was better. Back and forth on that.
    >
    >During the 80's they touted oat bran. Then they said the studies were
    >flawed.
    >
    >Who knows? Eat what you like.


    I think saturated fats have always been bad.

    --
    John

  6. #6
    Reggie Guest

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    "John John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:20:06 -0700, "Julie Bove"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>
    >>"gregz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>news:[email protected]r.org...
    >>> Sqwertz <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 03:38:26 +0000 (UTC), gregz wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> On the news there was a report of cooking with sesame seed and rice
    >>>>> bran
    >>>>> oil to reduce blood pressure and cholesterol, but it did not compare
    >>>>> other
    >>>>> oils. Do they think those are better ?
    >>>>
    >>>> You watched the un-named news report - you tell us!
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> Tv Channel kdka Pittsburgh.
    >>>
    >>> I had. To search recent news was in huffington. Perhaps it's because the
    >>> test was done in india.
    >>>
    >>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1900551.html

    >>
    >>I am to the point now where I don't believe anything said about food on
    >>the
    >>news unless of course it is a recall or something.
    >>
    >>They said eggs were bad. Then good. Then on and on.
    >>
    >>Margarine was better! No! Butter was better. Back and forth on that.
    >>
    >>During the 80's they touted oat bran. Then they said the studies were
    >>flawed.
    >>
    >>Who knows? Eat what you like.

    >
    > I think saturated fats have always been bad.
    >


    I don't think that is true for all saturated fats.



  7. #7
    The Other Guy Guest

    Default Re: cholesterol

    On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 16:46:01 +1000, John John <[email protected]>
    wrote:


    >I think saturated fats have always been bad.


    For some, NOT for others.

    I ate saturated fats most of my life, and my cholesterol is just fine
    without any medication at all.

    I have a friend that has eaten 'healthy' ALL his life, and his is thru
    the roof (over 400) WHILE he's on medication!








    To reply by email, lose the Ks...


  8. #8
    John John Guest

    Default Re: cholesterol

    On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:53:22 -0700, The Other Guy
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 16:46:01 +1000, John John <[email protected]>
    >wrote:
    >
    >
    >>I think saturated fats have always been bad.

    >
    >For some, NOT for others.
    >
    >I ate saturated fats most of my life, and my cholesterol is just fine
    >without any medication at all.
    >
    >I have a friend that has eaten 'healthy' ALL his life, and his is thru
    >the roof (over 400) WHILE he's on medication!


    Yes, genetics play a big role too. But if you have a (potential)
    cholesterol problem, saturated fats are the first thing to cut down
    on. Or so I thought.

    --
    John

  9. #9
    John John Guest

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    On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:47:38 -0700, "Reggie" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >
    >"John John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]. .
    >> On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:20:06 -0700, "Julie Bove"
    >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>>
    >>>"gregz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>>news:[email protected]r.org...
    >>>> Sqwertz <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 03:38:26 +0000 (UTC), gregz wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> On the news there was a report of cooking with sesame seed and rice
    >>>>>> bran
    >>>>>> oil to reduce blood pressure and cholesterol, but it did not compare
    >>>>>> other
    >>>>>> oils. Do they think those are better ?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> You watched the un-named news report - you tell us!
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Tv Channel kdka Pittsburgh.
    >>>>
    >>>> I had. To search recent news was in huffington. Perhaps it's because the
    >>>> test was done in india.
    >>>>
    >>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1900551.html
    >>>
    >>>I am to the point now where I don't believe anything said about food on
    >>>the
    >>>news unless of course it is a recall or something.
    >>>
    >>>They said eggs were bad. Then good. Then on and on.
    >>>
    >>>Margarine was better! No! Butter was better. Back and forth on that.
    >>>
    >>>During the 80's they touted oat bran. Then they said the studies were
    >>>flawed.
    >>>
    >>>Who knows? Eat what you like.

    >>
    >> I think saturated fats have always been bad.
    >>

    >
    >I don't think that is true for all saturated fats.


    Which ones are ok?

    --
    John


  10. #10
    Julie Bove Guest

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    "John John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:20:06 -0700, "Julie Bove"
    > <juli[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>
    >>"gregz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>news:[email protected]r.org...
    >>> Sqwertz <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 03:38:26 +0000 (UTC), gregz wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> On the news there was a report of cooking with sesame seed and rice
    >>>>> bran
    >>>>> oil to reduce blood pressure and cholesterol, but it did not compare
    >>>>> other
    >>>>> oils. Do they think those are better ?
    >>>>
    >>>> You watched the un-named news report - you tell us!
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> Tv Channel kdka Pittsburgh.
    >>>
    >>> I had. To search recent news was in huffington. Perhaps it's because the
    >>> test was done in india.
    >>>
    >>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1900551.html

    >>
    >>I am to the point now where I don't believe anything said about food on
    >>the
    >>news unless of course it is a recall or something.
    >>
    >>They said eggs were bad. Then good. Then on and on.
    >>
    >>Margarine was better! No! Butter was better. Back and forth on that.
    >>
    >>During the 80's they touted oat bran. Then they said the studies were
    >>flawed.
    >>
    >>Who knows? Eat what you like.

    >
    > I think saturated fats have always been bad.


    Prolly but I don't eat enough of those to worry about it.



  11. #11
    Julie Bove Guest

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    "John John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:47:38 -0700, "Reggie" <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>
    >>"John John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>news:[email protected] ..
    >>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:20:06 -0700, "Julie Bove"
    >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>
    >>>>"gregz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>>>news:[email protected]r.org...
    >>>>> Sqwertz <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 03:38:26 +0000 (UTC), gregz wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> On the news there was a report of cooking with sesame seed and rice
    >>>>>>> bran
    >>>>>>> oil to reduce blood pressure and cholesterol, but it did not compare
    >>>>>>> other
    >>>>>>> oils. Do they think those are better ?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> You watched the un-named news report - you tell us!
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Tv Channel kdka Pittsburgh.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I had. To search recent news was in huffington. Perhaps it's because
    >>>>> the
    >>>>> test was done in india.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1900551.html
    >>>>
    >>>>I am to the point now where I don't believe anything said about food on
    >>>>the
    >>>>news unless of course it is a recall or something.
    >>>>
    >>>>They said eggs were bad. Then good. Then on and on.
    >>>>
    >>>>Margarine was better! No! Butter was better. Back and forth on that.
    >>>>
    >>>>During the 80's they touted oat bran. Then they said the studies were
    >>>>flawed.
    >>>>
    >>>>Who knows? Eat what you like.
    >>>
    >>> I think saturated fats have always been bad.
    >>>

    >>
    >>I don't think that is true for all saturated fats.

    >
    > Which ones are ok?


    Coconut oil.



  12. #12
    John John Guest

    Default Re: cholesterol

    On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 00:50:41 -0700, "Julie Bove"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    >"John John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]. .
    >> On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:47:38 -0700, "Reggie" <[email protected]>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>>
    >>>"John John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>>news:[email protected] ...
    >>>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:20:06 -0700, "Julie Bove"
    >>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>"gregz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>>>>news:[email protected]r.org...
    >>>>>> Sqwertz <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 03:38:26 +0000 (UTC), gregz wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> On the news there was a report of cooking with sesame seed and rice
    >>>>>>>> bran
    >>>>>>>> oil to reduce blood pressure and cholesterol, but it did not compare
    >>>>>>>> other
    >>>>>>>> oils. Do they think those are better ?
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> You watched the un-named news report - you tell us!
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Tv Channel kdka Pittsburgh.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> I had. To search recent news was in huffington. Perhaps it's because
    >>>>>> the
    >>>>>> test was done in india.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1900551.html
    >>>>>
    >>>>>I am to the point now where I don't believe anything said about food on
    >>>>>the
    >>>>>news unless of course it is a recall or something.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>They said eggs were bad. Then good. Then on and on.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Margarine was better! No! Butter was better. Back and forth on that.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>During the 80's they touted oat bran. Then they said the studies were
    >>>>>flawed.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Who knows? Eat what you like.
    >>>>
    >>>> I think saturated fats have always been bad.
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>I don't think that is true for all saturated fats.

    >>
    >> Which ones are ok?

    >
    >Coconut oil.


    What about this quote from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coconut_oil:

    "As with dairy and meat products, the United States Food and Drug
    Administration, World Health Organization, International College of
    Nutrition, United States Department of Health and Human Services,
    American Dietetic Association, American Heart Association, British
    National Health Service, and Dietitians of Canada recommend limiting
    the consumption of significant amounts of coconut oil due to its high
    levels of saturated fat.

    --
    John

  13. #13
    Somebody Guest

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    "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:k463u3$9ir$[email protected]..

    >
    > They said eggs were bad. Then good. Then on and on.


    Recent reports say eggs are bad.
    http://articles.latimes.com/2012/aug...oking-20120814

    the National Heart Blood and Lung Institute recommends that to limit their
    risk of developing heart disease, Americans limit their cholesterol intake
    to no more than 300 mg per day (an egg yolk has just over 200 mg), and eat
    no more than four whole eggs weekly, including those in baked goods or
    processed foods. Those who already have heart disease, diabetes or high
    LDL-cholesterol, or who have had a stroke, should limit their cholesterol to
    less than 200 mg per day.



  14. #14
    Somebody Guest

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    "Reggie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:k465nh$hmq$[email protected]..

    >> I think saturated fats have always been bad.
    >>

    >
    > I don't think that is true for all saturated fats.



    all saturated fats are bad. As are all trans fats.



  15. #15
    Somebody Guest

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    "The Other Guy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 16:46:01 +1000, John John <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    >
    >>I think saturated fats have always been bad.

    >
    > For some, NOT for others.
    >
    > I ate saturated fats most of my life, and my cholesterol is just fine
    > without any medication at all.
    >
    > I have a friend that has eaten 'healthy' ALL his life, and his is thru
    > the roof (over 400) WHILE he's on medication!


    400? Yikes!

    My mom and dad had "meat and potatoes" just about every meal. And plentiful
    eggs, yet their cholesterol was fine too... But I wouldn't recommend it. I
    think genetics plays a big role.




  16. #16
    Somebody Guest

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    "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:k4697u$1ek$[email protected]..
    >> Which ones are ok?

    >
    > Coconut oil.



    egads! Even Mitt Romney would not make a joke like that.



  17. #17
    Somebody Guest

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    "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:k4697u$1ek$[email protected]..
    > Coconut oil.


    Olive Oil and Canola oils are rich in monosaturated and polyunsaturated, so
    relatively healthy... I'd only use coconut oil if I was stuck on Gilligan's
    Island.




  18. #18
    Jim Elbrecht Guest

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    On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 07:51:45 -0400, "Somebody" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >"Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:k463u3$9ir$[email protected]..
    >
    >>
    >> They said eggs were bad. Then good. Then on and on.

    >
    >Recent reports say eggs are bad.
    >http://articles.latimes.com/2012/aug...oking-20120814


    Aside from being one of the more seriously flawed studies - along with
    the misleading headline-
    http://www.shape.com/blogs/weight-lo...gs-bad-smoking

    that study is *so* mid-August.
    http://www.zest.co.uk/nutrition/why-...-you/2642.html

    Jim

  19. #19
    Dave Smith Guest

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    On 29/09/2012 7:59 AM, Somebody wrote:
    > "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:k4697u$1ek$[email protected]..
    >>> Which ones are ok?

    >>
    >> Coconut oil.

    >
    >
    > egads! Even Mitt Romney would not make a joke like that.
    >
    >


    The information booklet I got in cardiac rehab suggested eating lots of
    fruit and vegetables, but in capitals it says ...NOT COCONUT. It is
    apparently very high in cholesterol. When I asked about the claims of
    health benefits of the good cholesterol it was suggested that is hype
    from the people selling it. IN my situation, I think I am better off
    following the advice of the health professionals.


  20. #20
    Somebody Guest

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    "Jim Elbrecht" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 07:51:45 -0400, "Somebody" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>"Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>news:k463u3$9ir$[email protected]..
    >>
    >>>
    >>> They said eggs were bad. Then good. Then on and on.

    >>
    >>Recent reports say eggs are bad.
    >>http://articles.latimes.com/2012/aug...oking-20120814

    >
    > Aside from being one of the more seriously flawed studies - along with
    > the misleading headline-
    > http://www.shape.com/blogs/weight-lo...gs-bad-smoking
    >
    > that study is *so* mid-August.
    > http://www.zest.co.uk/nutrition/why-...-you/2642.html
    >
    > Jim



    well, I don't like the idea of contributing to factory farming, and the
    cheap eggs we get are because of inhumanely treated chickens. If I buy some
    again, it will be the cage free. I used to get egg beaters, but they have a
    kinda plasticky taste. And must be from mass produced hen factories. I've
    not seen "cage free" egg beaters. Maybe someday.

    okay, I glanced at the article. Everything in moderation. Including
    factory farming?

    Thanks. Now I am confused and conflicted again about eggs.



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