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    Corey Richardson Guest

    Default Chicago Rib Shack hits back at its critics

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/lif...cle4309476.ece

    Are critics out of touch with what the public like to eat?

    Owners of the recently opened Chicago Rib Shack in Knightsbridge have
    hit back at food critics, saying they are out of touch with what the
    wider public want to eat.

    In its opening weeks the restaurant attracted a "slating" from
    high-profile food reviewers.

    "This is, to put it simply, just so you donít forget, terribly bad food.
    And itís terribly bad food from the bad past," wrote The Sunday Times'
    AA Gill.

    "As a restaurant, the food doesn't cut the mustard," says Will
    Fulford-Jones of Time Out and Metro's Marina O'Loughlin declared, the
    "food is almost uniformly ghastly".

    It seems the underlying argument is that food and palates have evolved
    over the past 10 years. People now seek a sophisticated, cleaner, more
    wholesome dining experience as opposed to the caveman-like proportions
    of sizzling beef and pork, dripping in sticky barbecue sauce and
    deep-fried accompaniaments served up at the shack.

    And yet, three months after opening, the 200-plus seat restaurant
    continues to pack its tables, night after night.

    Jon Yantin, director and co-owner of the shack, said there was a place
    for American-style restaurants in London and turning over up to 1000
    covers a day was testament to that.

    "We weren't surprised by the reviews because of the style of the food we
    serve, but what did surprise us is how vicious they were. We're not a
    fine-dining restaurant and we never portayed ourselves to be one. You
    have to put it into context.

    "You come here for the ambience, the atmosphere, the service, the vibe.
    The food is only one reason to visit. It's more about having a fun night
    out than purely a dining experience."

    Yantin said London was a restaurant haven, but critics were out of touch
    with the wider public and what they really wanted to eat.

    "It's all about fine dining these days. We are bombarded with messages
    that we should be eating healthily on something that resembles a small
    piece of uncooked fish.

    "We are not this kind of restaurant. We're about big portions of fried
    food. We're not saying eat it every night, but why not have some fun
    once in a while."

    Even before it opened there were big expectations for the restaurant,
    primarily because it is a reinvention of the original and extremely
    successful Chicago Rib Shack established in 1982 by Bob Payton. The
    restaurant closed when its lease expired in December 1999. The nostalgic
    element from those who remembered the shack of old was always going to
    put pressure on the new arrival. But if anyone was going to revive the
    restuarant, Yantin and his business partner Adrian Hartley, as former
    employees of the original shack, were probably the best-placed to do so.

    Yantin believed it gave them a greater insight into what the original
    restaurant set out to achieve.

    "Having worked at the original we were aware of the ethos, where it came
    from, what it wanted to achieve," he said, that is to be the best
    barbecue family dining restaurant in London.

    "We knew we couldn't recreate exactly what had been before. What we've
    given is a new menu that has the backbone of the original using
    specialised meats and evolved it by injecting elements of its St Louis
    origins and elements of local provenance."

    The shack goes through four-to-five tonnes of meat a week and all of it
    is organic, sourced from English suppliers. The beef hails from
    Laverstock Park in Overton, Hampshire, while the pork is sourced from
    Eastbrook farm in Wiltshire. The meat spices are all natural, with no
    preservatives or additives and Yantin said all the food is hand-made and
    prepared.

    Although going organic wasn't a conscious decision, Yantin said
    utilising ethical farming methods was more relevant and met the
    restaurant's needs better than alternative options.

    "This is where our marketing may have been misconstrued," he said.
    "Because our meat is organic, people immediately assume its healthy.
    This is not the case."

    "In the end, we did our best. I'm not sure what the critics expected. We
    did have some teething problems in the service area but they have be
    recitfied now."

    Whatever the critics expected, it seems the rib shack's customers don't
    all share the same view, as shown by these patrons' comments.

    "Have eaten there it is great. Will definitely revisit lots!" said one.
    "I had such a great night at the 'shack'. Great vibe, great service,
    perfect portions and there is something for everyone! It is what it is
    .... a rib shack," declared another, and finally "welcome back old
    friend, you've been sorely missed".

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    BOB Guest

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    "Corey Richardson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 15:09:38 -0400, " BOB" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>
    >>"Corey Richardson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>
    >> >>>> If anybody in AFB cares to respond to this crossposting idiot (with
    >>>>>> a long history), please cut AFB out of the crossposts.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> We should at least have 1 group free of this known ****tard.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> -sw
    >>>>>>
    >>>>Do a google search on that cory ass hole. He's a troll. Period. Oh,
    >>>>he's
    >>>>a CROSSPOSTING TROLL.
    >>>>
    >>>>BOB
    >>>
    >>> Yes, do a Google search and you'll see that I'm *not* a troll!

    >>
    >>How many people have asked you, politely, not to crosspost?


    How many have asked you, not quite so politely, not to crosspost?

    How many people have told you to quit your ****ing crossposting?

    Yet, you still continue to crosspost. That makes you a TROLL and a ****ing
    idiot.

    Maybe you need to look up the word "Troll"? Your picture is there in
    wikipedia, right next to the word Troll.

    >
    > On-topic cross-posting to relevant groups is trolling.
    >


    You seem to have snipped too much. I put it back in



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    Corey Richardson Guest

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    On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 16:36:48 -0400, " BOB" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    >"Corey Richardson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]. .


    >>
    >> On-topic cross-posting to relevant groups is *not* trolling.
    >>

    >
    >You seem to have snipped too much. I put it back in


    You added alt.religion.kibology to the cross-post, which I did *not* put
    in, and which I have removed before replying to you.

    My post to which you replied was not cross-posted either yet *you*
    insisted it were.



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    BOB Guest

    Default Re: Chicago Rib Shack hits back at its critics


    "Corey Richardson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 16:36:48 -0400, " BOB" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>
    >>"Corey Richardson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>news:[email protected] ..

    >
    >>>
    >>> On-topic cross-posting to relevant groups is *not* trolling.
    >>>

    >>How many people have asked you, politely, not to crosspost?


    How many have asked you, not quite so politely, not to crosspost?

    How many people have told you to quit your ****ing crossposting?

    Yet, you still continue to crosspost. That makes you a TROLL and a ****ing
    idiot.

    Maybe you need to look up the word "Troll"? Your picture is there in
    wikipedia, right next to the word Troll.

    >>
    >>You seem to have snipped too much. I put it back in

    >
    > You added alt.religion.kibology to the cross-post, which I did *not* put
    > in
    >

    I guess my newsreader does it automatically. But, again, you still snipped
    the important parts of my reply. I put it back in for you.



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    Corey Richardson Guest

    Default Re: Chicago Rib Shack hits back at its critics

    On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 16:54:05 -0400, " BOB" <[email protected]> wrote:



    >> You added alt.religion.kibology to the cross-post, which I did *not* put
    >> in
    >>

    >I guess my newsreader does it automatically.


    I guess it just did it again and added alt.usenet.kooks too?


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    Billy Guest

    Default Re: Chicago Rib Shack hits back at its critics

    On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 16:54:05 -0400, " BOB" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >I guess my newsreader does it automatically. But, again, you still snipped
    >the important parts of my reply. I put it back in for you.


    Bob...this is bothering you more than most. Let it go....there
    are meds that can help you.

    Have a good day, sugar...




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    BOB Guest

    Default Re: Chicago Rib Shack hits back at its critics


    "Corey Richardson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 16:54:05 -0400, " BOB" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >>> You added alt.religion.kibology to the cross-post, which I did *not* put
    >>> in
    >>>

    >>I guess my newsreader does it automatically.

    >
    > I guess it just did it again and added alt.usenet.kooks too?
    >

    My noose-reeder does weired things when I reply to fidgidiots like you. I
    have no control over it.
    Wander what it'll do this time?



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    Billy Guest

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    On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:15:36 -0400, " BOB" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Wander what it'll do this time?


    You hit "ignore" and get on with your life. We are.



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    Corey Richardson Guest

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    On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:15:36 -0400, " BOB" <[email protected]> wrote:


    [troll groups removed]

    Go away, troll.


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    BOB Guest

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    "Billy" <Hereiam@hotmaildotcom> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 16:54:05 -0400, " BOB" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>I guess my newsreader does it automatically. But, again, you still
    >>snipped
    >>the important parts of my reply. I put it back in for you.

    >
    > Bob...this is bothering you more than most. Let it go....there
    > are meds that can help you.
    >
    > Have a good day, sugar...
    >
    >

    Billy-Boy,
    Get off my leg. I know squertz kicked you off of his, but stay off of mine.
    Maybe greggy would like you on his leg?



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    BOB Guest

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    "Corey Richardson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:15:36 -0400, " BOB" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >
    > [troll groups removed]
    >
    > Go away, troll.


    I thought that crossposting wasn't trolling. That's what you keep saying,
    anyway.

    >


    I'll make a deal with you, cory-crossposter.

    If I don't see any more crossposts from you (even replies that other people
    quote), I'll quit.

    If I do see you crossposting, I'll call out some big dogs. Your favorite
    group(s) {which aren't in this post} will never be the same.

    Deal?



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    BOB Guest

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    "Billy" <Hereiam@hotmaildotcom> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:15:36 -0400, " BOB" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>Wander what it'll do this time?

    >
    > You hit "ignore" and get on with your life. We are.
    >
    >


    Nope. Doesn't work. He has morphed at least once.
    Others quote him and his crossposts.

    He'll be gone soon enough and I'll quit.



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    Corey Richardson Guest

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    On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:39:29 -0400, " BOB" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    >"Billy" <Hereiam@hotmaildotcom> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]. .
    >> On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:15:36 -0400, " BOB" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>>Wander what it'll do this time?

    >>
    >> You hit "ignore" and get on with your life. We are.
    >>
    >>

    >
    >Nope. Doesn't work. He has morphed at least once.


    *NO* I have *not*!

    >Others quote him and his crossposts.


    Yes, they quote reasonable, on-topic cross-posts.

    >He'll be gone soon enough and I'll quit.


    I'm not being driven out of these groups by a troll like you. I'm not
    going anywhere

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    Corey Richardson Guest

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    On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:37:41 -0400, " BOB" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    >"Corey Richardson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]. .
    >> On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:15:36 -0400, " BOB" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >> [troll groups removed]
    >>
    >> Go away, troll.

    >
    >I thought that crossposting wasn't trolling. That's what you keep saying,
    >anyway.


    Cross-posting on-topic subjects to relevant groups is *not* trolling.
    What you do *is*!

    >I'll make a deal with you, cory-crossposter.
    >
    >If I don't see any more crossposts from you (even replies that other people
    >quote), I'll quit.


    You'll quit trolling and cross-posting to irrelevant newsgroups?

    >If I do see you crossposting, I'll call out some big dogs. Your favorite
    >group(s) {which aren't in this post} will never be the same.
    >
    >Deal?


    Go away, troll.


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    jmcquown Guest

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    BOB wrote:
    > "Billy" <Hereiam@hotmaildotcom> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]..
    >> On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 16:54:05 -0400, " BOB" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>> I guess my newsreader does it automatically. But, again, you still
    >>> snipped
    >>> the important parts of my reply. I put it back in for you.

    >>
    >> Bob...this is bothering you more than most. Let it go....there
    >> are meds that can help you.
    >>
    >> Have a good day, sugar...
    >>
    >>

    > Billy-Boy,
    > Get off my leg. I know squertz kicked you off of his, but stay off
    > of mine. Maybe greggy would like you on his leg?


    Bob, he's right. If you'd killfile the fool and stop replying (and
    cross-posting the reply all over creation) maybe he'd go the hell away. Oh,
    and notice I was able to delete the other newsgroups from this reply? It's
    not difficult so don't blame Windows Mail for it.

    Jill


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    Corey Richardson Guest

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    On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:54:05 -0400, "jmcquown" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >Bob, he's right. If you'd killfile the fool and stop replying (and
    >cross-posting the reply all over creation) maybe he'd go the hell away.


    Why the *hell* should I go away? It's not as if I've posted stuff that
    isn't about food and been nasty to people!


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    Billy Guest

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    On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:21:32 -0400, " BOB" <[email protected]> wrote:


    >Get off my leg. I know squertz kicked you off of his, but stay off of mine.
    >Maybe greggy would like you on his leg?


    I don't really care what you think. Have a good one, sugar.

    The only thing that gets "kicked" are people that will never affect my
    life. I believe you are one of those people. And I meant that in
    the nicest way, pumpkin'.




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    Billy Guest

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    On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:39:29 -0400, " BOB" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >He'll be gone soon enough and I'll quit.


    Bob....I don't care what you do. Take a nap and you will feel better
    later.


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    Corey Richardson Guest

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    Billy <Hereiam@hotmaildotcom> wrote:

    > Bob...this is bothering you more than most. Let it go....there
    > are meds that can help you.
    >
    > Have a good day, sugar...


    Billy, have you met Gregory Morrow yet? I think you two would get
    along great together. He might be able to teach you a think or two,
    even. He's pretty hard-core, S&M, trannie, crossdressing, etc...

    -sw

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    Billy Guest

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    On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 19:31:22 -0500, Corey Richardson
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >He might be able to teach you a think or two,


    Thanks for the offer, sugar....but I have no problem to think for
    myself. Been doing it for years.


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