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  1. #101
    Je▀us Guest

    Default Re: Can a person live on only Ramen Noodles

    On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 20:54:27 GMT, "l not -l" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >If a diet of nothing but Ramen didn't kill you, it would surely soon
    >make you wish you were dead.
    >
    >Meals made from dried beans and brown rice would be a better choice at
    >not much more cost.


    Just some food for thought re: brown rice -
    http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.c...er-than-brown/
    http://nutritiondiva.quickanddirtyti...hite-rice.aspx

  2. #102
    Bryan Guest

    Default Re: Can a person live on only Ramen Noodles

    On Oct 31, 1:22*pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
    > On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 10:47:42 -0400, "Richard K."
    >
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    > <Richa...@netzero.com> wrote:
    > >"Julie Bove" <julieb...@frontier.com> wrote in message
    > >news:k6rcc4$tnk$[email protected]..

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    > >> "John Kuthe" <JohnKu...@gmail.com> wrote in message
    > >>news:mk8298t2sdrgl2o7gb4[email protected] ..
    > >>> On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 23:34:28 +1100, John J <Jo...@invalid.net> wrote:

    >
    > >>>>On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 04:59:35 -0700, jpc4...@msn.com (Janet Price)
    > >>>>wrote:

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    > >>>>>Not Likely....... Not enough vegetable matter,nor meat. Maybe by adding
    > >>>>>a can of veggies and a can of meat every day or so. I understand it was
    > >>>>>invented to keep people from starving.
    > >>>>> If one eats noting but a tv dinner for a meal that also will cause
    > >>>>>weight loss.

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    > >>>>Vegetables yes, but do we need meat? How about vegetarians?

    >
    > >>> Humans need a diet composed of sufficient "essential" amino acids, not
    > >>> all of which are in any single vegetable. Which is why beans and rice
    > >>> is so popular among vegetarians. Beans AND rice provide a complete set
    > >>> of all essential amino acids.

    >
    > >>> John Kuthe...

    >
    > >> That's actually a myth.

    >
    > >If by myth you mean: *they have to be eaten at the same time. *It can be a
    > >few hours apart... *Hippos are vegetarian and seem to be very strong and
    > >healthy.

    >
    > Hippos are not strict vegetarians, they eat tons of snails and insects
    > that adhere to their water plant diet. *Animals we think of as
    > vegetarian (deer, rabbits, horses, sheep, goats, etc.) are not, they
    > ingest a multitude of live meat as they graze, even earthworms.


    Calorie for calorie, WAY MORE animals are killed by folks who eat
    vegetarian, than by those who eat grass fed mammals. If we omnivores
    are not supposed to place humans above cows and sheep, why do they get
    to place cows and sheep above earthworms?

    I liked the Beef Industry Council's "Beef; real food for real people"
    campaign, which seemed to suggest that vegetarians were imaginary.
    >
    > >So is William Shatner.

    >
    > Shatner has a black penis fetish and swallows, Obama is his favorite.
    >

    But what about the White half of Obama's penis? Have you thought
    about THAT? Of course you have. You think about other males' penises
    more than any guy on this NG.

    --Bryan

  3. #103
    Julie Bove Guest

    Default Re: Can a person live on only Ramen Noodles


    "Je▀us" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 20:54:27 GMT, "l not -l" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>If a diet of nothing but Ramen didn't kill you, it would surely soon
    >>make you wish you were dead.
    >>
    >>Meals made from dried beans and brown rice would be a better choice at
    >>not much more cost.

    >
    > Just some food for thought re: brown rice -
    > http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.c...er-than-brown/
    > http://nutritiondiva.quickanddirtyti...hite-rice.aspx


    My daughter only eats brown rice because she is on the South Beach diet.
    Most weeks if she does have it, it is no more than 2-3 times. But weeks
    will go by when she has no rice at all. She was on a big sweet potato kick
    for a while.

    I alternate between brown and white and I even eat wild rice which I know
    isn't really rice. We also eat pasta. And popcorn. Popcorn is another
    super cheap food! At least if you air pop it or pan pop it with oil or even
    make it in the microwave using your own microwave popper. Yes, you can pop
    it in a plain brown bag in the microwave but I have read this can be
    dangerous and start a fire.

    Anyway... Popcorn is a whole grain. We often had it with soup for dinner.
    My mom tried to get us to eat it with milk but we never liked that. It is
    commonly eaten like that in the Midwest though and leftover popcorn was
    often served for breakfast like a cold cereal.



  4. #104
    jmcquown Guest

    Default Re: Can a person live on only Ramen Noodles

    "Julie Bove" wrote in message news:k6ur5e$njj$[email protected]..

    dsi1 wrote:
    > On 10/31/2012 1:55 PM, jmcquown wrote:
    >> "dsi1" wrote in message news:k6s1p2$9bi$[email protected]..
    >>
    >> On 10/30/2012 10:33 PM, [email protected] wrote:
    >>> With the present state of the economy, some people can no longer
    >>> afford both rent, utilities and food. The cost of rent and
    >>> utilities keeps going up, so the only place to cut costs is food.
    >>> Ramen Noodles are cheap. On sale they can cost as little as 20
    >>> cents a pack. If a person eats two packs per day, their weekly
    >>> cost for food is only $2.80, or $11.20 per month. If purchased in
    >>> quantity, a person might be able to eat an entire month on $10. That is
    >>> all some people can afford these days. This is especially
    >>> true for the elderly and disabled. The question arises, is this a
    >>> healthy diet. Or maybe not exactly *healthy*, but can a person
    >>> live on this alone?

    >>
    >> It's a healthy alternative to starving to death. My recommendation is
    >> that you get a small automatic rice cooker and make your ramen in
    >> that. There's nothing "healthy" about a diet of [unadulterated] Ramen
    >> noodles with the sodium laden "seasoning packet" day after day. And
    >> why would someone need a rice cooker to make soup?!
    >>
    >> Jill

    >
    > I consider starving to death as being really bad for one's health. My
    > guess is that if you were starving to death, you'd be thankful for
    > ramen's meager nutritional values.
    >
    > Nobody needs to cook soup in a rice cooker but I sure would do it.
    > It's just easier to cook using a rice cooker especially if I only
    > have to cook for two. Anything that requires boiling water I'd rather
    > use my small rice cooker. I also cook cornbread and instant mashed
    > potatoes and broccoli and canned soup. My assumption is that it will
    > poach and cook hard-boiled eggs just fine, although I have yet to try
    > it.
    > I will be using my automatic rice cooker more and more in the future.
    > You can stick with a pan on the stove - I've found an easier, simpler,
    > and more efficient way to cook.


    I don't own a rice cooker and can't see myself ever getting one. For one
    thing I have no place to store one. And the stove I own wasn't overly
    expensive. I don't need a lot of bells and whistles but I did want a self
    cleaning one. Rice cookers are pretty expensive, IMO.
    *****************

    I was kind of wondering, given the scenario posed by the OP, how they could
    afford a rice cooker if they can't buy real food.

    Jill



  5. #105
    jmcquown Guest

    Default Re: Can a person live on only Ramen Noodles

    "dsi1" wrote in message news:k6vlgr$pio$[email protected]..

    On 11/1/2012 11:55 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
    >
    > I don't own a rice cooker and can't see myself ever getting one. For one
    > thing I have no place to store one. And the stove I own wasn't overly
    > expensive. I don't need a lot of bells and whistles but I did want a self
    > cleaning one. Rice cookers are pretty expensive, IMO.


    You're right - they're hideously expensive. OTOH, the 6 cup rice cooker
    that I got from Walgren's was dirt cheap. Under 15 bucks.
    ***************

    Walgreens does have some inexpensive small appliances. I think I paid $9
    for my stick blender from Walgreens; it works every bit as well as a much
    higher priced one. In the long run it may not last as long but given the
    lifespan of small appliances these days I'm betting it will. (Then again, I
    don't use it every day or even every month.)

    Jill


  6. #106
    Gary Guest

    Default Re: Can a person live on only Ramen Noodles

    jmcquown wrote:
    >
    > "Julie Bove" wrote:
    > I don't own a rice cooker and can't see myself ever getting one. For one
    > thing I have no place to store one. And the stove I own wasn't overly
    > expensive. I don't need a lot of bells and whistles but I did want a self
    > cleaning one. Rice cookers are pretty expensive, IMO.
    > *****************
    >
    > I was kind of wondering, given the scenario posed by the OP, how they could
    > afford a rice cooker if they can't buy real food.


    There's all kind of characters in our world, Jill. Julie thinks rice
    cookers are "pretty expensive" but yet she will buy new books, read them,
    then give them to her brother. Going to the library is too much trouble for
    her. Meanwhile, she often mentions how money is tight.

    G.

    PS - no rice cooker for me either. My cute little RevereWare 1 quart
    saucepan with lid cooks rice perfectly every time.

  7. #107
    jmcquown Guest

    Default Re: Can a person live on only Ramen Noodles

    "Julie Bove" wrote in message news:k6t869$e6o$[email protected]..

    Richard K. wrote:
    > "jmcquown" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]..
    >
    >> You know, I really don't care what you think. My ancestors certainly
    >> raised and slaughtered their own animals. They were farmers. They
    >> ate what animals they raised and what vegetables they could grow. They
    >> sold some at market. If I had to do it today, if I'd been
    >> raised in that culture, sure, I'd do it. Would I opt for
    >> vegetarianism? No. I'm a carnivore.
    >>
    >> Jill

    >
    >
    > actually, humans are usually omnivores... since you have to have
    > meat, perhaps you are a werewolf?
    >


    I eat plenty of fresh vegetables, thanks for asking.


    > To not raise and slaughter your own meat, I think is dishonest, lazy
    > and to be a parasite off people that you let do the dirty work for
    > you. If you want to eat meat, then the honest thing is to butcher it
    > yourself... I'm no saint, but when I ate meat I didn't go around
    > saying I like eating meat because it tasted good... That is a low
    > bar to set for human morals and ethics. And to say animals such as
    > lions and tigers kill other animals and eat them, well-- do humans
    > have the same morals as lions and tigers?


    Oh really? So then... Do you cobble your own shoes? Make your own
    clothing? Furniture? Cosmetics? Did you build your own car? Yes, I know
    some people do these things. But there is no way that every one of us could
    do all of these things. The world just doesn't work that way.
    ******************

    Thank you! I'm not here to discuss the morals of anyone (or any animal).
    If I *had* to, if I raised livestock, I'd butcher my own meat. But that's
    what the guy at the butcher shop is getting paid $30 an hour to do... and
    trust me, he's not out back behind the shop stringing up hogs and gutting
    them. He cuts the meat from carcasses delivered by the farmers who *do*
    raise animals for human consumption. Maybe I *am* a werewolf... heheh. I'm
    not going to stop eating meat just because I don't raise and slaughter it
    myself.

    I don't grow my own vegetables, either. (There's a friggin golf course in
    my back yard.) I support the local farmers, buying their in season
    vegetables at the farm stands.

    Sounds like Richard K doesn't like animal, vegetable or dairy farmers making
    a living. Does he have a cow? A goat? Does he milk them? Churn his own
    butter and make his own cheese? Sheesh.

    Jill


  8. #108
    Richard K. Guest

    Default Re: Can a person live on only Ramen Noodles

    "jmcquown" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..

    > Sounds like Richard K doesn't like animal, vegetable or dairy farmers
    > making a living. Does he have a cow? A goat? Does he milk them? Churn
    > his own butter and make his own cheese? Sheesh.
    >
    > Jill


    Why would anyone have a problem with vegetable farmers? Yeah, everybody has
    to make a living. I hope to again someday. Just not as a butcher.

    PS I do not really think you are werewolf.




  9. #109
    barbie gee Guest

    Default Re: Can a person live on only Ramen Noodles



    On Fri, 2 Nov 2012, Julie Bove wrote:
    >
    > Anyway... Popcorn is a whole grain. We often had it with soup for dinner.
    > My mom tried to get us to eat it with milk but we never liked that. It is
    > commonly eaten like that in the Midwest though and leftover popcorn was
    > often served for breakfast like a cold cereal.


    was this during the Depression?
    never heard of such a thing, and not as something in "the Midwest".
    sounds horrible, gotta say.

  10. #110
    barbie gee Guest

    Default Re: Can a person live on only Ramen Noodles



    On Sat, 3 Nov 2012, Gary wrote:

    > jmcquown wrote:
    >>
    >> "Julie Bove" wrote:
    >> I don't own a rice cooker and can't see myself ever getting one. For one
    >> thing I have no place to store one. And the stove I own wasn't overly
    >> expensive. I don't need a lot of bells and whistles but I did want a self
    >> cleaning one. Rice cookers are pretty expensive, IMO.
    >> *****************
    >>
    >> I was kind of wondering, given the scenario posed by the OP, how they could
    >> afford a rice cooker if they can't buy real food.

    >
    > There's all kind of characters in our world, Jill. Julie thinks rice
    > cookers are "pretty expensive" but yet she will buy new books, read them,
    > then give them to her brother. Going to the library is too much trouble for
    > her. Meanwhile, she often mentions how money is tight.
    >
    > G.
    >
    > PS - no rice cooker for me either. My cute little RevereWare 1 quart
    > saucepan with lid cooks rice perfectly every time.
    >


    Thrift stores have them all the time.
    A plain rice cooker can be had for under $20.
    http://www.target.com/p/black-decker...r/-/A-14078080

    it's the "fuzzy logic" fancy ones that cost.

  11. #111
    George M. Middius Guest

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    Richard K. wrote:

    > PS I do not really think you are werewolf.


    On the new version of The Munsters, little Eddie is a werewolf. The
    pilot ep was pretty good.



  12. #112
    dsi1 Guest

    Default Re: Can a person live on only Ramen Noodles

    On 11/3/2012 3:31 AM, jmcquown wrote:
    > "dsi1" wrote in message news:k6vlgr$pio$[email protected]..
    >
    > On 11/1/2012 11:55 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
    >>
    >> I don't own a rice cooker and can't see myself ever getting one. For one
    >> thing I have no place to store one. And the stove I own wasn't overly
    >> expensive. I don't need a lot of bells and whistles but I did want a
    >> self
    >> cleaning one. Rice cookers are pretty expensive, IMO.

    >
    > You're right - they're hideously expensive. OTOH, the 6 cup rice cooker
    > that I got from Walgren's was dirt cheap. Under 15 bucks.
    > ***************
    >
    > Walgreens does have some inexpensive small appliances. I think I paid
    > $9 for my stick blender from Walgreens; it works every bit as well as a
    > much higher priced one. In the long run it may not last as long but
    > given the lifespan of small appliances these days I'm betting it will.
    > (Then again, I don't use it every day or even every month.)
    >
    > Jill
    >


    Stick blenders are neat. I've had several but they break. Now I don't
    have any. That's the breaks.

  13. #113
    notbob Guest

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    On 2012-11-03, dsi1 <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Stick blenders are neat. I've had several but they break. Now I don't
    > have any. That's the breaks.


    What are you blending? Rocks?

    --
    Definition of objectivism:
    "Eff you! I got mine."
    http://www.nongmoproject.org/

  14. #114
    Julie Bove Guest

    Default Re: Can a person live on only Ramen Noodles


    "Gary" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]..
    > jmcquown wrote:
    >>
    >> "Julie Bove" wrote:
    >> I don't own a rice cooker and can't see myself ever getting one. For one
    >> thing I have no place to store one. And the stove I own wasn't overly
    >> expensive. I don't need a lot of bells and whistles but I did want a
    >> self
    >> cleaning one. Rice cookers are pretty expensive, IMO.
    >> *****************
    >>
    >> I was kind of wondering, given the scenario posed by the OP, how they
    >> could
    >> afford a rice cooker if they can't buy real food.

    >
    > There's all kind of characters in our world, Jill. Julie thinks rice
    > cookers are "pretty expensive" but yet she will buy new books, read them,
    > then give them to her brother. Going to the library is too much trouble
    > for
    > her. Meanwhile, she often mentions how money is tight.


    Uh... No. I buy used books. Then I give them to my nephew to sell. I
    don't even buy that many books! In the course of a year I only buy maybe
    100. Once in a while I will buy a new book. But they are mostly used ones.
    Just ordered some more last night. They were $1.99 to $3.99. Mostly I read
    magazines that I can get a subscription for either for free or maybe $2.95
    to $4.95 a year. I have a few that I pay full price for that I ordered from
    my daughter's school. And there are a few that I pay full price for at the
    store. These are passed on to a woman I know and after she reads them, she
    passes them on.

    The books that I read are likely not books you could even get at the
    library. Not our library anyway. They don't get many new books and not many
    of the genre that I read.



  15. #115
    Julie Bove Guest

    Default Re: Can a person live on only Ramen Noodles


    "notbob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > On 2012-11-03, dsi1 <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> Stick blenders are neat. I've had several but they break. Now I don't
    >> have any. That's the breaks.

    >
    > What are you blending? Rocks?


    I've not had super good luck them them but... I do use them on hot foods
    like soup. And they do say not to use them on hot foods! Oddly when you
    seem them being used on cooking shows, it's always on hot foods.



  16. #116
    Julie Bove Guest

    Default Re: Can a person live on only Ramen Noodles


    "Richard K." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:k73dah$mpt$[email protected]..
    > "jmcquown" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]..
    >
    >> Sounds like Richard K doesn't like animal, vegetable or dairy farmers
    >> making a living. Does he have a cow? A goat? Does he milk them? Churn
    >> his own butter and make his own cheese? Sheesh.
    >>
    >> Jill

    >
    > Why would anyone have a problem with vegetable farmers? Yeah, everybody
    > has to make a living. I hope to again someday. Just not as a butcher.
    >
    > PS I do not really think you are werewolf.


    Why would they? Maybe because those people are underpaid. Many are
    uneducated and have no choice of another job. They work in deplorable
    conditions. In the hot sun with sometimes a lack of water and certainly a
    lack of a real toilet. When I picked cucumbers (one day only) we were
    allowed no breaks for any reason and if caught slacking we would be hit with
    a wooden baton. That kind of work was not for me! But it was one of the
    few jobs that I person of my age could legally do. I was 12 or 13 at the
    time.



  17. #117
    Julie Bove Guest

    Default Re: Can a person live on only Ramen Noodles


    "barbie gee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected] hcrg.pbz...
    >
    >
    > On Fri, 2 Nov 2012, Julie Bove wrote:
    >>
    >> Anyway... Popcorn is a whole grain. We often had it with soup for
    >> dinner.
    >> My mom tried to get us to eat it with milk but we never liked that. It
    >> is
    >> commonly eaten like that in the Midwest though and leftover popcorn was
    >> often served for breakfast like a cold cereal.

    >
    > was this during the Depression?
    > never heard of such a thing, and not as something in "the Midwest".
    > sounds horrible, gotta say.


    I'm sure that they did it during the depression and they still do it today.
    Popcorn is pretty much a food group in the Midwest. Most people eat it
    daily.



  18. #118
    dsi1 Guest

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    On 11/3/2012 8:11 AM, notbob wrote:
    > On 2012-11-03, dsi1 <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> Stick blenders are neat. I've had several but they break. Now I don't
    >> have any. That's the breaks.

    >
    > What are you blending? Rocks?
    >


    Ice cubes


  19. #119
    Brooklyn1 Guest

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    On Sat, 3 Nov 2012 12:09:54 -0500, barbie gee <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >
    >
    >On Fri, 2 Nov 2012, Julie Bove wrote:
    >>
    >> Anyway... Popcorn is a whole grain. We often had it with soup for dinner.
    >> My mom tried to get us to eat it with milk but we never liked that. It is
    >> commonly eaten like that in the Midwest though and leftover popcorn was
    >> often served for breakfast like a cold cereal.

    >
    >was this during the Depression?
    >never heard of such a thing, and not as something in "the Midwest".
    >sounds horrible, gotta say.


    Are you Barbie Gee Cup?

  20. #120
    Je▀us Guest

    Default Re: Can a person live on only Ramen Noodles

    On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 23:32:28 -0700, "Julie Bove"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    >"Je▀us" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]. .
    >> On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 20:54:27 GMT, "l not -l" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>>If a diet of nothing but Ramen didn't kill you, it would surely soon
    >>>make you wish you were dead.
    >>>
    >>>Meals made from dried beans and brown rice would be a better choice at
    >>>not much more cost.

    >>
    >> Just some food for thought re: brown rice -
    >> http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.c...er-than-brown/
    >> http://nutritiondiva.quickanddirtyti...hite-rice.aspx

    >
    >My daughter only eats brown rice because she is on the South Beach diet.
    >Most weeks if she does have it, it is no more than 2-3 times. But weeks
    >will go by when she has no rice at all. She was on a big sweet potato kick
    >for a while.


    Moderation is good.

    >I alternate between brown and white and I even eat wild rice which I know
    >isn't really rice. We also eat pasta. And popcorn. Popcorn is another
    >super cheap food! At least if you air pop it or pan pop it with oil or even
    >make it in the microwave using your own microwave popper. Yes, you can pop
    >it in a plain brown bag in the microwave but I have read this can be
    >dangerous and start a fire.


    I still make popcorn from time to time myself - when - I think of it,
    that is. Makes a quick and easy snack.

    >Anyway... Popcorn is a whole grain. We often had it with soup for dinner.


    Soup? Wow, never thought of that one.

    >My mom tried to get us to eat it with milk but we never liked that. It is
    >commonly eaten like that in the Midwest though and leftover popcorn was
    >often served for breakfast like a cold cereal.


    Hmm, that doesn't sound very appealing to me.
    Then again, until you've tried it...

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