Thread: Cabernet and Chocolate are cancer killers

Peter cut-and-pasted:

> The foundation pitted some foods against approved drugs and found that
> soy, parsley, red grapes, berries and other comestibles were either as
> effective or more potent in battling cancer cells.
>
> Eaten together, the foods were even more effective in fighting cancer.

I'm curious as to what those "other comestibles" might have been. The
Wikipedia article on angiogenesis inhibitors lists:

* Soy products such as tofu and tempeh, (which contain the inhibitor
"genistein")
* Agaricus blazei mushrooms (angiogenesis inhibitors found in the mushroom
include sodium pyroglutamate and ergosterol)
* Reishi mushrooms (via inhibition of VEGF and TGF-beta)
* Trametes versicolor mushrooms
* Maitake mushrooms (via inhibition of VEGF)
* Phellinus linteus mushrooms
* Green tea (catechins)[citation needed]
* Red Wine (resveratrol)[citation needed]

I'd heard of maitake mushrooms, but none of the other mushrooms, and I
haven't seen any confirming site which states that parsley has angiogenesis
inhibition properties.

Since the claim is that the foods are more effective if combined, what would
you make from that list of potential ingredients (including the ingredients
quoted at the top)? I'm thinking of a menu which includes some other foods
with alleged cancer-fighting properties:

Brown rice cooked with green tea, garnished with toasted almonds
Tofu with onions, parsnips, and maitake mushrooms
Salmon with garlic, lemon, and parsley
Red wine sorbet garnished with frozen red grapes

Bob

"PeterL1" ha scritto nel messaggio

> http://tinyurl.com/yb88yee
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> Red wine and dark chocolate are potent cancer killers, US study says

I think it's wonderful that scientists are researching how to work against
an enemy before you even know it is the enemy, and for now, that's where I
place cancer fighting foods. I think it is beyond foolish to publish
statements that these foods starve cancers you know you have.

A British expat friend here is dying of metastasized cancer that began as
breast cancer 4 years ago. One of her natural medicine friends convinced
her she could starve her cancer and cure herself using diet. Obviously, we
are not at that point yet. She is in terrible pain and has a very short
time to live.

On 11/02/2010 7:56 PM, Giusi wrote:
> "PeterL1" ha scritto nel messaggio
>
>> http://tinyurl.com/yb88yee
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>> Red wine and dark chocolate are potent cancer killers, US study says
>
> I think it's wonderful that scientists are researching how to work against
> an enemy before you even know it is the enemy, and for now, that's where I
> place cancer fighting foods. I think it is beyond foolish to publish
> statements that these foods starve cancers you know you have.
>
> A British expat friend here is dying of metastasized cancer that began as
> breast cancer 4 years ago. One of her natural medicine friends convinced
> her she could starve her cancer and cure herself using diet. Obviously, we
> are not at that point yet. She is in terrible pain and has a very short
> time to live.
>
>
A friend of mine was diagnosed with lymphoma last September. As the
chemo and radiation process was explained to him, my friend suggested
that he would like to try natural therapies. The doctor was fine with
that but suggested that he wouldn't see Christmas. He followed the
doctor's plan! Last chemo on Dec. 24 and he's looking Ok. One of his
daughters was married late last year, another had her first baby last
month and the youngest turned 11 last week. Hope he beats it as he has a
lot of reasons to live for.

Krypsis

Originally Posted by Bob Terwilliger

Peter cut-and-pasted:

> The foundation pitted some foods against approved drugs and found that
> soy, parsley, red grapes, berries and other comestibles were either as
> effective or more potent in battling cancer cells.
>
> Eaten together, the foods were even more effective in fighting cancer.

I'm curious as to what those "other comestibles" might have been.

Bob

The list of other foods that Dr William Li spoke of are here:
Anti-angiogenesis in foods

Yeap