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  1. #1
    Jennifer Murphy Guest

    Default Bulk food storage containers

    I'd like to start buying food in bulk. We eat a lot of rice and steel
    cut oats. I can get them in 50 lb bags at much lower cost.

    Here's a 50 lb bag of steel cut oats for $50:

    http://store.honeyvillegrain.com/steelcutoats50lb.aspx

    And here's a 50 lb bag of rice for $53:

    http://store.honeyvillegrain.com/lon...erice50lb.aspx

    Now I need a way to store them. I see 5 gallon buckets available:

    http://store.honeyvillegrain.com/bucketsforstorage.aspx

    but there are complaints about the lids being difficult to use. I'm
    also wondering if 5 gal is too large.

    Can anyone who buys food in 50 lb bags offer suggestions for how to
    store it and where to buy the containers?

    I have some 1 gal cans for daily use, but I need something for the
    rest of the bag.

  2. #2
    Sqwertz Guest

    Default Re: Bulk food storage containers

    On Tue, 31 May 2011 08:42:46 -0700, Jennifer Murphy wrote:

    > And here's a 50 lb bag of rice for $53:


    Snip possible spam.

    50lbs bags of rice should be less than $25. Jasmine if $25 at CostCo,
    white long is $20. Both in 50lb sacks. Foodservice distributors also
    sell that at those prices.

    Honeyville grain seems to be a ripoff.

    -sw

  3. #3
    sf Guest

    Default Re: Bulk food storage containers

    On Tue, 31 May 2011 08:42:46 -0700, Jennifer Murphy
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Can anyone who buys food in 50 lb bags offer suggestions for how to
    > store it and where to buy the containers?
    >
    > I have some 1 gal cans for daily use, but I need something for the
    > rest of the bag.


    Why don't you use garbage cans for storage? I'd put the entire 50
    sack in it and scoop what I needed into my daily use container from
    there. Another way to go is to look for a disaster preparedness store
    in your area to buy the large food storage containers.

    --

    Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

  4. #4
    Storrmmee Guest

    Default Re: Bulk food storage containers

    how much fits in your one gallon cans, if it were me and i wanted to use
    cans i would figure out how much fit in the cans i had to see if i needed a
    larger can or if it would be easier to store it in a few of the same sized
    can, makng for easier lifting, and stackin when cans are empty, if i did
    this i would get one more than the fifty pounds called for and i could then
    reorder and refill the cans while still using the last of the older stock.

    Lee


    "Jennifer Murphy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > I'd like to start buying food in bulk. We eat a lot of rice and steel
    > cut oats. I can get them in 50 lb bags at much lower cost.
    >
    > Here's a 50 lb bag of steel cut oats for $50:
    >
    > http://store.honeyvillegrain.com/steelcutoats50lb.aspx
    >
    > And here's a 50 lb bag of rice for $53:
    >
    > http://store.honeyvillegrain.com/lon...erice50lb.aspx
    >
    > Now I need a way to store them. I see 5 gallon buckets available:
    >
    > http://store.honeyvillegrain.com/bucketsforstorage.aspx
    >
    > but there are complaints about the lids being difficult to use. I'm
    > also wondering if 5 gal is too large.
    >
    > Can anyone who buys food in 50 lb bags offer suggestions for how to
    > store it and where to buy the containers?
    >
    > I have some 1 gal cans for daily use, but I need something for the
    > rest of the bag.




  5. #5
    blake murphy Guest

    Default Re: Bulk food storage containers

    On Tue, 31 May 2011 08:42:46 -0700, Jennifer Murphy wrote:

    > I'd like to start buying food in bulk. We eat a lot of rice and steel
    > cut oats. I can get them in 50 lb bags at much lower cost.
    >
    > Here's a 50 lb bag of steel cut oats for $50:
    >
    > http://store.honeyvillegrain.com/steelcutoats50lb.aspx
    >
    > And here's a 50 lb bag of rice for $53:
    >
    > http://store.honeyvillegrain.com/lon...erice50lb.aspx


    it seems to me i can get a one- or two-pound bag of white long-grain rice
    at the grocery store for less (or not much more than) a dollar a pound.
    don't know if you're saving much here.

    your pal,
    blake

  6. #6
    Storrmmee Guest

    Default Re: Bulk food storage containers

    i was actually going to call the dh to see if i were rembering costco prices
    correctly, i see i was from your post, Lee
    "Sqwertz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > On Tue, 31 May 2011 08:42:46 -0700, Jennifer Murphy wrote:
    >
    >> And here's a 50 lb bag of rice for $53:

    >
    > Snip possible spam.
    >
    > 50lbs bags of rice should be less than $25. Jasmine if $25 at CostCo,
    > white long is $20. Both in 50lb sacks. Foodservice distributors also
    > sell that at those prices.
    >
    > Honeyville grain seems to be a ripoff.
    >
    > -sw




  7. #7
    Brooklyn1 Guest

    Default Re: Bulk food storage containers

    On Tue, 31 May 2011 08:42:46 -0700, Jennifer Murphy
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >I'd like to start buying food in bulk. We eat a lot of rice and steel
    >cut oats. I can get them in 50 lb bags at much lower cost.
    >
    >Here's a 50 lb bag of steel cut oats for $50:
    >
    >http://store.honeyvillegrain.com/steelcutoats50lb.aspx
    >
    >And here's a 50 lb bag of rice for $53:
    >
    >http://store.honeyvillegrain.com/lon...erice50lb.aspx
    >
    >Now I need a way to store them. I see 5 gallon buckets available:
    >
    >http://store.honeyvillegrain.com/bucketsforstorage.aspx
    >
    >but there are complaints about the lids being difficult to use. I'm
    >also wondering if 5 gal is too large.
    >
    >Can anyone who buys food in 50 lb bags offer suggestions for how to
    >store it and where to buy the containers?
    >
    >I have some 1 gal cans for daily use, but I need something for the
    >rest of the bag.


    I buy the 50 lb sacks from Honeyville; some I split with neighbors. I
    have a couple of those 5 gallon buckets I fill and from those pour
    into smaller jars as needed, you don't need to remove the entire lid,
    there's a capped pour spout. The 99 stores are a good place to buy
    storage containers. You'll find it handy to have a couple of large
    plastic funnels and scoops for transfering; make your own from plastic
    bottles or buy them at auto parts and agri stores... your local Agway
    is a good source for grain storeage and transfer products. One of the
    best rice/grain storeage containers is a brand new plastic 5 gallon
    fuel can; easy fill, easy pour, easy carry, easy store.

  8. #8
    sf Guest

    Default Re: Bulk food storage containers

    On Tue, 31 May 2011 12:33:09 -0400, blake murphy
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On Tue, 31 May 2011 08:42:46 -0700, Jennifer Murphy wrote:
    >
    > > I'd like to start buying food in bulk. We eat a lot of rice and steel
    > > cut oats. I can get them in 50 lb bags at much lower cost.
    > >
    > > Here's a 50 lb bag of steel cut oats for $50:
    > >
    > > http://store.honeyvillegrain.com/steelcutoats50lb.aspx
    > >
    > > And here's a 50 lb bag of rice for $53:
    > >
    > > http://store.honeyvillegrain.com/lon...erice50lb.aspx

    >
    > it seems to me i can get a one- or two-pound bag of white long-grain rice
    > at the grocery store for less (or not much more than) a dollar a pound.
    > don't know if you're saving much here.
    >

    Some people eat a LOT of rice and stock it like they stock toilet
    paper and tomato products.

    --

    Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

  9. #9
    Chemiker Guest

    Default Re: Bulk food storage containers

    On Tue, 31 May 2011 08:42:46 -0700, Jennifer Murphy
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    FWIW: The problem is not as simple as you imply. Grains often (read
    "usually") contain insect eggs or other contaminants. These can be
    killed by extensive freezing, or immersion/storage in CO2, or heating.
    We buy rice in 25 lb sacks, break it down to 1 kg lots and seal them
    in vacuum packs, then put the packages into metal popcorn cans,
    sealing the lids with duct tape. THe lack of air smothers the insect
    hatchlings. I would think oats would be susceptible to these beasties,
    especially the Indian miller moth. You can buy a number of smaller
    sacks and put them in plastic pails, if you add a couple lumps of dry
    ice, then put the lids on and later (when the CO2 has gasified)
    sealing the pails with duct tape. Protect from rodents.

    When you add the cost of freezing, CO2, vacuum packagins, et. al., you
    may find the cost is prohibitive. You must then determine whether your
    objective is to save money or to guarantee youself a supply of that
    particular food. Drying and canning may also fit into your overall
    plan.

    HTH

    Alex

  10. #10
    Jennifer Murphy Guest

    Default Re: Bulk food storage containers

    On Tue, 31 May 2011 08:59:20 -0700, sf <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Tue, 31 May 2011 08:42:46 -0700, Jennifer Murphy
    ><[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> Can anyone who buys food in 50 lb bags offer suggestions for how to
    >> store it and where to buy the containers?
    >>
    >> I have some 1 gal cans for daily use, but I need something for the
    >> rest of the bag.

    >
    >Why don't you use garbage cans for storage? I'd put the entire 50
    >sack in it and scoop what I needed into my daily use container from
    >there. Another way to go is to look for a disaster preparedness store
    >in your area to buy the large food storage containers.


    Do you mean the 50 gal garbage cans for outside use? They are way too
    large and they are not air tight.

    When I searched for "disaster preparedness", all I found were
    Armageddon types selling pre-packaged food.

  11. #11
    Sqwertz Guest

    Default Re: Bulk food storage containers

    On Tue, 31 May 2011 12:35:30 -0500, Chemiker wrote:

    > We buy rice in 25 lb sacks, break it down to 1 kg lots and seal them
    > in vacuum packs, then put the packages into metal popcorn cans,
    > sealing the lids with duct tape.


    The vacuum packing would be sufficient. Why waste duct tape? Duct
    tape is commodity around in these here parts.

    -sw

  12. #12
    Janet Wilder Guest

    Default Re: Bulk food storage containers

    On 5/31/2011 10:42 AM, Jennifer Murphy wrote:
    > I'd like to start buying food in bulk. We eat a lot of rice and steel
    > cut oats. I can get them in 50 lb bags at much lower cost.
    >
    > Here's a 50 lb bag of steel cut oats for $50:
    >
    > http://store.honeyvillegrain.com/steelcutoats50lb.aspx
    >
    > And here's a 50 lb bag of rice for $53:
    >
    > http://store.honeyvillegrain.com/lon...erice50lb.aspx
    >
    > Now I need a way to store them. I see 5 gallon buckets available:
    >
    > http://store.honeyvillegrain.com/bucketsforstorage.aspx
    >
    > but there are complaints about the lids being difficult to use. I'm
    > also wondering if 5 gal is too large.
    >
    > Can anyone who buys food in 50 lb bags offer suggestions for how to
    > store it and where to buy the containers?
    >
    > I have some 1 gal cans for daily use, but I need something for the
    > rest of the bag.


    Might I humbly suggest a trip to the nearest restaurant supply store
    where you can ask the opinion of a professional? The reason I suggest a
    local store over an internet one is that the local guy knows what kind
    of critters and humidity situations exist in your local.

    --
    Janet Wilder
    Way-the-heck-south Texas
    Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

  13. #13
    Jennifer Murphy Guest

    Default Re: Bulk food storage containers

    On Tue, 31 May 2011 11:11:40 -0500, "Storrmmee"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >how much fits in your one gallon cans, if it were me and i wanted to use
    >cans i would figure out how much fit in the cans i had to see if i needed a
    >larger can or if it would be easier to store it in a few of the same sized
    >can, makng for easier lifting, and stackin when cans are empty, if i did
    >this i would get one more than the fifty pounds called for and i could then
    >reorder and refill the cans while still using the last of the older stock.


    That's a great plan, but I think I'll need new 1 gal cans. The ones I
    have are the ones that the steel cut oats came in when I was buying a
    case of cans.

    A case of six cans is about 26 lbs (6 x 70 oz), so a 50 lb bag would
    be about 12 cans. I only have about 5-6 cans, but I worry that they
    just have a thin plastic lid. It's definitely not air tight and
    probably not bug proof.

  14. #14
    Jennifer Murphy Guest

    Default Re: Bulk food storage containers

    On Tue, 31 May 2011 12:38:01 -0400, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:

    >On Tue, 31 May 2011 08:42:46 -0700, Jennifer Murphy
    ><[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>I'd like to start buying food in bulk. We eat a lot of rice and steel
    >>cut oats. I can get them in 50 lb bags at much lower cost.
    >>
    >>Here's a 50 lb bag of steel cut oats for $50:
    >>
    >>http://store.honeyvillegrain.com/steelcutoats50lb.aspx
    >>
    >>And here's a 50 lb bag of rice for $53:
    >>
    >>http://store.honeyvillegrain.com/lon...erice50lb.aspx
    >>
    >>Now I need a way to store them. I see 5 gallon buckets available:
    >>
    >>http://store.honeyvillegrain.com/bucketsforstorage.aspx
    >>
    >>but there are complaints about the lids being difficult to use. I'm
    >>also wondering if 5 gal is too large.
    >>
    >>Can anyone who buys food in 50 lb bags offer suggestions for how to
    >>store it and where to buy the containers?
    >>
    >>I have some 1 gal cans for daily use, but I need something for the
    >>rest of the bag.

    >
    >I buy the 50 lb sacks from Honeyville; some I split with neighbors. I
    >have a couple of those 5 gallon buckets I fill and from those pour
    >into smaller jars as needed,


    You have the 5 gallon buckets from Honeyville?

    Did you get the regular lids or the gamma lid?

    Did you have as much trouble getting the lid on and off as some
    reviewers reported?

    >you don't need to remove the entire lid,
    >there's a capped pour spout.


    Is that on the standard lid? (Not the gamma.)

    >The 99 stores are a good place to buy
    >storage containers.


    Do you mean for daily use?

    >You'll find it handy to have a couple of large
    >plastic funnels and scoops for transfering; make your own from plastic
    >bottles or buy them at auto parts and agri stores... your local Agway
    >is a good source for grain storeage and transfer products. One of the
    >best rice/grain storeage containers is a brand new plastic 5 gallon
    >fuel can; easy fill, easy pour, easy carry, easy store.


    Now that's an interesting idea. But are they air tight and/or bug
    proof?

  15. #15
    Chemiker Guest

    Default Re: Bulk food storage containers

    On Tue, 31 May 2011 13:09:04 -0500, Sqwertz <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >On Tue, 31 May 2011 12:35:30 -0500, Chemiker wrote:
    >
    >> We buy rice in 25 lb sacks, break it down to 1 kg lots and seal them
    >> in vacuum packs, then put the packages into metal popcorn cans,
    >> sealing the lids with duct tape.

    >
    >The vacuum packing would be sufficient. Why waste duct tape? Duct
    >tape is commodity around in these here parts.
    >
    >-sw


    Because, Steve, there are beasties that can crawl in past the
    irregularities in the lid seal. Roaches can chew through cardboard and
    plastic wrap, and vacuum seal plastic. THe metal foil duct tape slows
    them down a bit. Besides, good duct tape is not expensive. It also
    makes an automatic gas seal which is good for storage.

    And, duct tape is *never* wasted, except by city folk.

    Alex

  16. #16
    Storrmmee Guest

    Default Re: Bulk food storage containers

    don't hold me to this, but check

    www.shoplet.com

    I seem to recal some long term storage on there while i was shopping for
    freezer type containers. Look really close, its a great site, but sometimes
    the search doesn't work like i like them to, but prices are excellent for
    what i have purchased, and everything i have ordered has arrived on the next
    business day.

    Also, i have no interest in this site other than being very happy with
    prices and service.

    Lee
    "Jennifer Murphy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > On Tue, 31 May 2011 11:11:40 -0500, "Storrmmee"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>how much fits in your one gallon cans, if it were me and i wanted to use
    >>cans i would figure out how much fit in the cans i had to see if i needed
    >>a
    >>larger can or if it would be easier to store it in a few of the same sized
    >>can, makng for easier lifting, and stackin when cans are empty, if i did
    >>this i would get one more than the fifty pounds called for and i could
    >>then
    >>reorder and refill the cans while still using the last of the older stock.

    >
    > That's a great plan, but I think I'll need new 1 gal cans. The ones I
    > have are the ones that the steel cut oats came in when I was buying a
    > case of cans.
    >
    > A case of six cans is about 26 lbs (6 x 70 oz), so a 50 lb bag would
    > be about 12 cans. I only have about 5-6 cans, but I worry that they
    > just have a thin plastic lid. It's definitely not air tight and
    > probably not bug proof.




  17. #17
    Storrmmee Guest

    Default Re: Bulk food storage containers

    ps, make sure whatever you get its food grade materials for you families
    safety, otherwise i think some of the plastics can let out toxins.

    Lee


    "Jennifer Murphy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > On Tue, 31 May 2011 12:38:01 -0400, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
    >
    >>On Tue, 31 May 2011 08:42:46 -0700, Jennifer Murphy
    >><[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>>I'd like to start buying food in bulk. We eat a lot of rice and steel
    >>>cut oats. I can get them in 50 lb bags at much lower cost.
    >>>
    >>>Here's a 50 lb bag of steel cut oats for $50:
    >>>
    >>>http://store.honeyvillegrain.com/steelcutoats50lb.aspx
    >>>
    >>>And here's a 50 lb bag of rice for $53:
    >>>
    >>>http://store.honeyvillegrain.com/lon...erice50lb.aspx
    >>>
    >>>Now I need a way to store them. I see 5 gallon buckets available:
    >>>
    >>>http://store.honeyvillegrain.com/bucketsforstorage.aspx
    >>>
    >>>but there are complaints about the lids being difficult to use. I'm
    >>>also wondering if 5 gal is too large.
    >>>
    >>>Can anyone who buys food in 50 lb bags offer suggestions for how to
    >>>store it and where to buy the containers?
    >>>
    >>>I have some 1 gal cans for daily use, but I need something for the
    >>>rest of the bag.

    >>
    >>I buy the 50 lb sacks from Honeyville; some I split with neighbors. I
    >>have a couple of those 5 gallon buckets I fill and from those pour
    >>into smaller jars as needed,

    >
    > You have the 5 gallon buckets from Honeyville?
    >
    > Did you get the regular lids or the gamma lid?
    >
    > Did you have as much trouble getting the lid on and off as some
    > reviewers reported?
    >
    >>you don't need to remove the entire lid,
    >>there's a capped pour spout.

    >
    > Is that on the standard lid? (Not the gamma.)
    >
    >>The 99 stores are a good place to buy
    >>storage containers.

    >
    > Do you mean for daily use?
    >
    >>You'll find it handy to have a couple of large
    >>plastic funnels and scoops for transfering; make your own from plastic
    >>bottles or buy them at auto parts and agri stores... your local Agway
    >>is a good source for grain storeage and transfer products. One of the
    >>best rice/grain storeage containers is a brand new plastic 5 gallon
    >>fuel can; easy fill, easy pour, easy carry, easy store.

    >
    > Now that's an interesting idea. But are they air tight and/or bug
    > proof?




  18. #18
    ImStillMags Guest

    Default Re: Bulk food storage containers

    On May 31, 8:42*am, Jennifer Murphy <JenMur...@geospace.org> wrote:
    > I'd like to start buying food in bulk. We eat a lot of rice and steel
    > cut oats. I can get them in 50 lb bags at much lower cost.
    >
    > Here's a 50 lb bag of steel cut oats for $50:
    >
    > http://store.honeyvillegrain.com/steelcutoats50lb.aspx
    >
    > And here's a 50 lb bag of rice for $53:
    >
    > http://store.honeyvillegrain.com/lon...erice50lb.aspx
    >
    > Now I need a way to store them. I see 5 gallon buckets available:
    >
    > http://store.honeyvillegrain.com/bucketsforstorage.aspx
    >
    > but there are complaints about the lids being difficult to use. I'm
    > also wondering if 5 gal is too large.
    >
    > Can anyone who buys food in 50 lb bags offer suggestions for how to
    > store it and where to buy the containers?
    >
    > I have some 1 gal cans for daily use, but I need something for the
    > rest of the bag.


    Jennifer, depending upon how much and how fast you use your bulk
    storage stuff, let me recommend you look at the kind of
    storage bins restaurants and bakeries use. There are lots to choose
    from but they are designed to be easily accessed and
    take up little space.

    http://www.webstaurantstore.com/3503...ient-bins.html

  19. #19
    Jennifer Murphy Guest

    Default Re: Bulk food storage containers

    On Tue, 31 May 2011 12:35:30 -0500, Chemiker
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Tue, 31 May 2011 08:42:46 -0700, Jennifer Murphy
    ><[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >FWIW: The problem is not as simple as you imply. Grains often (read
    >"usually") contain insect eggs or other contaminants. These can be
    >killed by extensive freezing, or immersion/storage in CO2, or heating.
    >We buy rice in 25 lb sacks, break it down to 1 kg lots and seal them
    >in vacuum packs, then put the packages into metal popcorn cans,
    >sealing the lids with duct tape. THe lack of air smothers the insect
    >hatchlings. I would think oats would be susceptible to these beasties,
    >especially the Indian miller moth. You can buy a number of smaller
    >sacks and put them in plastic pails, if you add a couple lumps of dry
    >ice, then put the lids on and later (when the CO2 has gasified)
    >sealing the pails with duct tape. Protect from rodents.
    >
    >When you add the cost of freezing, CO2, vacuum packagins, et. al., you
    >may find the cost is prohibitive. You must then determine whether your
    >objective is to save money or to guarantee youself a supply of that
    >particular food. Drying and canning may also fit into your overall
    >plan.


    We usually go through a case of 6 70 oz cans in about 9 months. So I
    figure we'll use a 50 lb bag in about 18 months. So I need something
    to store it for that long.

  20. #20
    Dave Bugg Guest

    Default Re: Bulk food storage containers

    Jennifer Murphy wrote:

    > but there are complaints about the lids being difficult to use. I'm
    > also wondering if 5 gal is too large.


    For short term storage, 5 gallon buckets are fine. If that's too large, you
    can purchase 3 gallon buckets. To make lid removal easy, purchase "gamma
    lids" for each bucket. Food grade buckets should be easy to obtain free of
    charge from restaurants, bakeries, Costco, etc. The gamma lids will need to
    be purchased. If you need to know how to store your purchase for the
    long-term, just holler.

    Gamma Lids:
    http://freckleface.com/shopsite_sc/s...lbrochure.html

    You can purchase from any number of online vendors

    --
    Dave
    "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
    butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
    accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
    give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
    problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
    efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."



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