Thread: Bugs in King Arthur Flour

"Sqwertz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> That was the first and last time I ever buy King Arthur flour. They
> were visible as soon as I opened the bag, 8 of them. I snuck a
> quarter cup to stiffen my wet dough, sifted through it, then threw the
> rest away. White unbleached all-purpose. Why pay more than double
> for flour with bugs? Gold Medal or the store brand for me from now
> on.

Agree and sympathize, that is really icky. But I wonder
whether bugs might weigh less than the flour they
displace? I understand that you can microwave the
bag and kill the buggies (or send them to Angela...)
but all in all I never buy again what sends insects to
me in the first place.

pavane

On Oct 1, 10:51*pm, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
> That was the first and last time I ever buy King Arthur flour. *They
> were visible as soon as I opened the bag, 8 of them. *I snuck a
> quarter cup to stiffen my wet dough, sifted through it, then threw the
> rest away. *White unbleached all-purpose. *Why pay more than double
> for flour with bugs? *Gold Medal or the store brand for me from now
> on.

Wouldn't there be bug feces in the flour as well?

ICK.....

"pavane" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Sqwertz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:1kz2f7lmto0p3$.[email protected]..
>> That was the first and last time I ever buy King Arthur flour. They
>> were visible as soon as I opened the bag, 8 of them. I snuck a
>> quarter cup to stiffen my wet dough, sifted through it, then threw the
>> rest away. White unbleached all-purpose. Why pay more than double
>> for flour with bugs? Gold Medal or the store brand for me from now
>> on.
>
> Agree and sympathize, that is really icky. But I wonder
> whether bugs might weigh less than the flour they
> displace? I understand that you can microwave the
> bag and kill the buggies (or send them to Angela...)
> but all in all I never buy again what sends insects to
> me in the first place.
>
> pavane
>
If I never bought anything that might contain bugs, the pantry would be
quite bare here. Grits, cornmeal, flour and such go from store to freezer.
I've even been known to freeze ants. When they planned to make the sugar
bowl their summer home I put the bowl and critters in a baggy and froze the
whole lot. Polly

projectile vomit chick <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Oct 1, 10:51 pm, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
>> That was the first and last time I ever buy King Arthur flour. They
>> were visible as soon as I opened the bag, 8 of them. I snuck a
>> quarter cup to stiffen my wet dough, sifted through it, then threw the
>> rest away. White unbleached all-purpose. Why pay more than double
>> for flour with bugs? Gold Medal or the store brand for me from now
>> on.
>
> Wouldn't there be bug feces in the flour as well?
>
> ICK.....

That makes me want to vomit.

Greg

On Mon, 1 Oct 2012 21:29:00 -0700 (PDT), projectile vomit chick wrote:

> Wouldn't there be bug feces in the flour as well?
>
> ICK.....

Couldn't even taste it. I'm SURE I've eaten worse.

-sw

On Mon, 1 Oct 2012 22:51:34 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:

> That was the first and last time I ever buy King Arthur flour. They
> were visible as soon as I opened the bag, 8 of them.

BTW: This was a fresh bag, bought about 3 weeks ago and just opened
today. I needed a little more flour to finish my current baking
project (Pretzel Rolls studded with caraway and salt).

-sw

On Oct 1, 11:58*pm, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Oct 2012 21:29:00 -0700 (PDT), projectile vomit chick wrote:
> > Wouldn't there be bug feces in the flour as well?
>
> > ICK.....
>
> Couldn't even taste it. *I'm SURE I've eaten worse.

To be sure, Burger King.

"Polly Esther" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "pavane" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> "Sqwertz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:1kz2f7lmto0p3$.[email protected]..
>>> That was the first and last time I ever buy King Arthur flour. They
>>> were visible as soon as I opened the bag, 8 of them. I snuck a
>>> quarter cup to stiffen my wet dough, sifted through it, then threw the
>>> rest away. White unbleached all-purpose. Why pay more than double
>>> for flour with bugs? Gold Medal or the store brand for me from now
>>> on.
>>
>> Agree and sympathize, that is really icky. But I wonder
>> whether bugs might weigh less than the flour they
>> displace? I understand that you can microwave the
>> bag and kill the buggies (or send them to Angela...)
>> but all in all I never buy again what sends insects to
>> me in the first place.
>>
>> pavane
>>
> If I never bought anything that might contain bugs, the pantry would be
> quite bare here. Grits, cornmeal, flour and such go from store to freezer.
> I've even been known to freeze ants. When they planned to make the sugar
> bowl their summer home I put the bowl and critters in a baggy and froze
> the whole lot. Polly

Oh wow! I have only ever seen them four times in my house. Once in a store
and I wouldn't buy from there any more.

Once was in some really old paprika that belonged to the landlord. I
replaced all of the spices after that. The bugs were dead.

Once in a Jiffy mix that I had mail ordered. Again, dead.

Then in a cornbread mix. Again, dead. I had one more mix. It appeared to
be fine. But... I suspect that is when they invaded some other things in
that cupboard and I didn't notice. I did find live ones then. Tons of them
in what appeared to be a sealed sandwich bag. They ate so much of whatever
was in there and there were so many carcasses, I couldn't tell what it was.
But I suspect it was chocolate chips.

That is when I tossed most everything in there, keeping only things like
salt and popcorn that were in thick plastic bags. I cleaned and bug sprayed
and let it all air out for weeks. The stuff I replaced sat in plastic boxes
for a while. Then I relined the cupboard. I did buy bug traps but it would
appear that I don't need them. I don't really bake any more. So I didn't
buy much at all.

On Oct 2, 12:59*am, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@frontier.com> wrote:
> "Polly Esther" <Polly...@cableone.net> wrote in message
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> >> "Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message
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> >>> That was the first and last time I ever buy King Arthur flour. *They
> >>> were visible as soon as I opened the bag, 8 of them. *I snuck a
> >>> quarter cup to stiffen my wet dough, sifted through it, then threw the
> >>> rest away. *White unbleached all-purpose. *Why pay more than double
> >>> for flour with bugs? *Gold Medal or the store brand for me from now
> >>> on.
>
> >> Agree and sympathize, that is really icky. But I wonder
> >> whether bugs might weigh less than the flour they
> >> displace? I understand that you can microwave the
> >> bag and kill the buggies (or send them to Angela...)
> >> but all in all I never buy again what sends insects to
> >> me in the first place.
>
> >> pavane
>
> > If I never bought anything that might contain bugs, the pantry would be
> > quite bare here. Grits, cornmeal, flour and such go from store to freezer.
> > I've even been known to freeze ants. *When they planned to make the sugar
> > bowl their summer home I put the bowl and critters in a baggy and froze
> > the whole lot. *Polly
>
> Oh wow! *I have only ever seen them four times in my house. *Once in a store
> and I wouldn't buy from there any more.
>
> Once was in some really old paprika that belonged to the landlord. *I
> replaced all of the spices after that. *The bugs were dead.
>
> Once in a Jiffy mix that I had mail ordered. *Again, dead.
>
> Then in a cornbread mix. *Again, dead. *I had one more mix. *It appeared to
> be fine. *But... *I suspect that is when they invaded some other things in
> that cupboard and I didn't notice. *I did find live ones then. *Tons of them
> in what appeared to be a sealed sandwich bag. *They ate so much of whatever
> was in there and there were so many carcasses, I couldn't tell what it was.
> But I suspect it was chocolate chips.
>
> That is when I tossed most everything in there, keeping only things like
> salt and popcorn that were in thick plastic bags. *I cleaned and bug sprayed
> and let it all air out for weeks. *The stuff I replaced sat in plastic boxes
> for a while. Then I relined the cupboard. *I did buy bug traps but it would
> appear that I don't need them. *I don't really bake any more. *So I didn't
> buy much at all.

I've lived on my own and have been buying groceries for over 30 years
and I've never had bugs, nor have I bought groceries with bugs in
them.

I don't understand what disgusting levels you people with infestations
must live at. What do your bathrooms look like?

ICK...

On Oct 2, 12:59*am, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@frontier.com> wrote:
> "Polly Esther" <Polly...@cableone.net> wrote in message
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> > "pavane" <pav...@leisure.org> wrote in message
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> >> "Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message
> >>news:1kz2f7lmto0p3$.[email protected]..
> >>> That was the first and last time I ever buy King Arthur flour. *They
> >>> were visible as soon as I opened the bag, 8 of them. *I snuck a
> >>> quarter cup to stiffen my wet dough, sifted through it, then threw the
> >>> rest away. *White unbleached all-purpose. *Why pay more than double
> >>> for flour with bugs? *Gold Medal or the store brand for me from now
> >>> on.
>
> >> Agree and sympathize, that is really icky. But I wonder
> >> whether bugs might weigh less than the flour they
> >> displace? I understand that you can microwave the
> >> bag and kill the buggies (or send them to Angela...)
> >> but all in all I never buy again what sends insects to
> >> me in the first place.
>
> >> pavane
>
> > If I never bought anything that might contain bugs, the pantry would be
> > quite bare here. Grits, cornmeal, flour and such go from store to freezer.
> > I've even been known to freeze ants. *When they planned to make the sugar
> > bowl their summer home I put the bowl and critters in a baggy and froze
> > the whole lot. *Polly
>
> Oh wow! *I have only ever seen them four times in my house. *Once in a store
> and I wouldn't buy from there any more.
>
> Once was in some really old paprika that belonged to the landlord. *I
> replaced all of the spices after that. *The bugs were dead.
>
> Once in a Jiffy mix that I had mail ordered. *Again, dead.

Why the **** would you mail order a Jiffy mix? You can't find a cup
of flour and a teaspoon here and there of the other ingredients? Not
only are you retarded, but you are ****ing stupid! Yer welcome.

projectile vomit chick wrote:
> On Oct 2, 12:59 am, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@frontier.com> wrote:
>> "Polly Esther" <Polly...@cableone.net> wrote in message
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>> news:[email protected]..
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>>> "pavane" <pav...@leisure.org> wrote in message
>>> news:hTtas.79911$%[email protected]..
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>>>> "Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message
>>>> news:1kz2f7lmto0p3$.[email protected]..
>>>>> That was the first and last time I ever buy King Arthur flour.
>>>>> They were visible as soon as I opened the bag, 8 of them. I snuck
>>>>> a quarter cup to stiffen my wet dough, sifted through it, then
>>>>> threw the rest away. White unbleached all-purpose. Why pay more
>>>>> than double
>>>>> for flour with bugs? Gold Medal or the store brand for me from now
>>>>> on.
>>
>>>> Agree and sympathize, that is really icky. But I wonder
>>>> whether bugs might weigh less than the flour they
>>>> displace? I understand that you can microwave the
>>>> bag and kill the buggies (or send them to Angela...)
>>>> but all in all I never buy again what sends insects to
>>>> me in the first place.
>>
>>>> pavane
>>
>>> If I never bought anything that might contain bugs, the pantry
>>> would be quite bare here. Grits, cornmeal, flour and such go from
>>> store to freezer. I've even been known to freeze ants. When they
>>> planned to make the sugar bowl their summer home I put the bowl and
>>> critters in a baggy and froze the whole lot. Polly
>>
>> Oh wow! I have only ever seen them four times in my house. Once in a
>> store and I wouldn't buy from there any more.
>>
>> Once was in some really old paprika that belonged to the landlord. I
>> replaced all of the spices after that. The bugs were dead.
>>
>> Once in a Jiffy mix that I had mail ordered. Again, dead.
>>
>> Then in a cornbread mix. Again, dead. I had one more mix. It
>> appeared to be fine. But... I suspect that is when they invaded some
>> other things in that cupboard and I didn't notice. I did find live
>> ones then. Tons of them in what appeared to be a sealed sandwich
>> bag. They ate so much of whatever was in there and there were so
>> many carcasses, I couldn't tell what it was. But I suspect it was
>> chocolate chips.
>>
>> That is when I tossed most everything in there, keeping only things
>> like salt and popcorn that were in thick plastic bags. I cleaned and
>> bug sprayed and let it all air out for weeks. The stuff I replaced
>> sat in plastic boxes for a while. Then I relined the cupboard. I did
>> buy bug traps but it would appear that I don't need them. I don't
>> really bake any more. So I didn't buy much at all.
>
> I've lived on my own and have been buying groceries for over 30 years
> and I've never had bugs, nor have I bought groceries with bugs in
> them.
>
> I don't understand what disgusting levels you people with infestations
> must live at. What do your bathrooms look like?
>
> ICK...

In the case of the paprika, my landlord brought it over from his cabin. I
didn't know how old it was.

In the case of the other things, the bugs were in the product when I bought
them, I believe. To be fair, the cornbread mix was old.

You do know that pretty much all flour and products of that ilk contains bug
eggs. Right? And if you live in a warm, moist area, they will hatch.

projectile vomit chick wrote:
> On Oct 2, 12:59 am, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@frontier.com> wrote:
>> "Polly Esther" <Polly...@cableone.net> wrote in message
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>> news:[email protected]..
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>>> "pavane" <pav...@leisure.org> wrote in message
>>> news:hTtas.79911$%[email protected]..
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>>>> "Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message
>>>> news:1kz2f7lmto0p3$.[email protected]..
>>>>> That was the first and last time I ever buy King Arthur flour.
>>>>> They were visible as soon as I opened the bag, 8 of them. I snuck
>>>>> a quarter cup to stiffen my wet dough, sifted through it, then
>>>>> threw the rest away. White unbleached all-purpose. Why pay more
>>>>> than double
>>>>> for flour with bugs? Gold Medal or the store brand for me from now
>>>>> on.
>>
>>>> Agree and sympathize, that is really icky. But I wonder
>>>> whether bugs might weigh less than the flour they
>>>> displace? I understand that you can microwave the
>>>> bag and kill the buggies (or send them to Angela...)
>>>> but all in all I never buy again what sends insects to
>>>> me in the first place.
>>
>>>> pavane
>>
>>> If I never bought anything that might contain bugs, the pantry
>>> would be quite bare here. Grits, cornmeal, flour and such go from
>>> store to freezer. I've even been known to freeze ants. When they
>>> planned to make the sugar bowl their summer home I put the bowl and
>>> critters in a baggy and froze the whole lot. Polly
>>
>> Oh wow! I have only ever seen them four times in my house. Once in a
>> store and I wouldn't buy from there any more.
>>
>> Once was in some really old paprika that belonged to the landlord. I
>> replaced all of the spices after that. The bugs were dead.
>>
>> Once in a Jiffy mix that I had mail ordered. Again, dead.
>
> Why the **** would you mail order a Jiffy mix? You can't find a cup
> of flour and a teaspoon here and there of the other ingredients? Not
> only are you retarded, but you are ****ing stupid! Yer welcome.

It wasn't for me. My parents love the stuff. I had placed an order to get
some things specifically that they wanted. They had been asking about them
and couldn't find them. I don't remember what it was now that they wanted.
But I figured since I already had to pay so much for postage, I might as
well get a couple of mixes for us. I don't even remember what I got. I
don't eat the stuff. Made a ton of Jiffy mixes as a kid because that was
about all that my mom would let me buy. Whatever it was that I ordered, it
came to me with the bugs in it. I have never ordered from that company
again. It was Hometown Favorites.

Sqwertz wrote:
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> That was the first and last time I ever buy King Arthur flour. They
> were visible as soon as I opened the bag, 8 of them. I snuck a
> quarter cup to stiffen my wet dough, sifted through it, then threw the
> rest away. White unbleached all-purpose. Why pay more than double
> for flour with bugs? Gold Medal or the store brand for me from now
> on.
>
> -sw

If people would get over their total ignorance about "radiation", all of
these foods would be irradiated and there would be no bugs in anything.

On 10/1/12 11:51 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> That was the first and last time I ever buy King Arthur flour. They
> were visible as soon as I opened the bag, 8 of them. I snuck a
> quarter cup to stiffen my wet dough, sifted through it, then threw the
> rest away. White unbleached all-purpose. Why pay more than double
> for flour with bugs? Gold Medal or the store brand for me from now
> on.

Aw, come on. You must know that that is the result of improper storage
or transportation, not the fault of King Arthur's processing.

-- Larry

On 10/1/2012 10:51 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> That was the first and last time I ever buy King Arthur flour. They
> were visible as soon as I opened the bag, 8 of them. I snuck a
> quarter cup to stiffen my wet dough, sifted through it, then threw the
> rest away. White unbleached all-purpose. Why pay more than double
> for flour with bugs? Gold Medal or the store brand for me from now
> on.

You'll eventually find bugs in a bag of some other brand flour, too.
Grain attracts bugs, and that's the way it is. Just notify KA and
they'll most likely give you coupon for a replacement bag.

On Mon, 1 Oct 2012 22:51:34 -0500, Sqwertz <[email protected]>
wrote:

>That was the first and last time I ever buy King Arthur flour. They
>were visible as soon as I opened the bag, 8 of them. I snuck a
>quarter cup to stiffen my wet dough, sifted through it, then threw the
>rest away. White unbleached all-purpose. Why pay more than double
>for flour with bugs? Gold Medal or the store brand for me from now
>on.
>
>-sw

Careful, you're on the slippery slope to Julie Land.
The bug eggs are on the grain -- grain is grown in the outdoors where
insects abound. Improper storage or transportation will cause the
eggs to hatch. Write to KA and tell them about it. I'm sure they
will make good your purchase.
Janet US

This can happen with lots of dry food items.

My flour gets to spend some time in the freezer before i even open the bag.

I still like KA flour for certain things and will pay the extra to buy it.

On Tue, 02 Oct 2012 10:14:57 -0400, pltrgyst wrote:

> Aw, come on. You must know that that is the result of improper storage
> or transportation, not the fault of King Arthur's processing.

No I must not know that. Because I don't think that's true in many of
the cases. Flour contains bugs - starting in the fields.

-sw

Sqwertz <[email protected]> wrote in news:1kz2f7lmto0p3
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> That was the first and last time I ever buy King Arthur flour. They
> were visible as soon as I opened the bag, 8 of them. I snuck a
> quarter cup to stiffen my wet dough, sifted through it, then threw the
> rest away. White unbleached all-purpose. Why pay more than double
> for flour with bugs? Gold Medal or the store brand for me from now
> on.
>
> -sw

Never had that problem with KA. Did once decades ago with Gold Medal -
store replaced it. Since that time I keep flour in the refrigerator.




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