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    F Murtz Guest

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    Has any one made a loaf of bread in a bread machine that is not a lump
    of lead?

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    Sqwertz Guest

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    On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:55:14 +1100, F Murtz wrote:

    > Has any one made a loaf of bread in a bread machine that is not a lump
    > of lead?


    I suspect they have and you're just a troll.

    -sw

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    Christopher Helms Guest

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    On Nov 30, 6:06*am, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
    > On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:55:14 +1100, F Murtz wrote:
    > > Has any one made a loaf of bread in a bread machine that is not a lump
    > > of lead?

    >
    > I suspect they have and you're just a troll.
    >
    > -sw



    I've never had a bad loaf of bread from my bread machine.

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    atec7 7 Guest

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    F Murtz wrote:
    > Has any one made a loaf of bread in a bread machine that is not a lump
    > of lead?

    Get in behind
    yes of course here are machines that work
    Like my Panasonic

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    F Murtz Guest

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    Sqwertz wrote:
    > On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:55:14 +1100, F Murtz wrote:
    >
    >> Has any one made a loaf of bread in a bread machine that is not a lump
    >> of lead?

    >
    > I suspect they have and you're just a troll.
    >
    > -sw

    Just got a new machine every loaf is a lump of lead.
    I might be expecting too much I like very light slightly clammy bread
    The machine seems to make a loaf half the size of a commercial loaf of
    the same weight so it is twice as heavy

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    George Guest

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    F Murtz wrote:
    > Has any one made a loaf of bread in a bread machine that is not a lump
    > of lead?


    Y

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    Kalmia Guest

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    On Nov 30, 5:55*am, F Murtz <hagg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    > Has any one made a loaf of bread in a bread machine that is not a lump
    > of lead?


    Yes - thousands of 'em. Why don't you give us the particulars, i.e.
    brand of machine, a typical recipe?

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    atec7 7 Guest

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    F Murtz wrote:
    > Sqwertz wrote:
    >> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:55:14 +1100, F Murtz wrote:
    >>
    >>> Has any one made a loaf of bread in a bread machine that is not a lump
    >>> of lead?

    >>
    >> I suspect they have and you're just a troll.
    >>
    >> -sw

    > Just got a new machine every loaf is a lump of lead.
    > I might be expecting too much I like very light slightly clammy bread
    > The machine seems to make a loaf half the size of a commercial loaf of
    > the same weight so it is twice as heavy

    Change the mix brand

    sometimes they simply wont work in a machine

    try a multi-grain or similar and possibly add more fluid

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    George Shirley Guest

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    F Murtz wrote:
    > Sqwertz wrote:
    >> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:55:14 +1100, F Murtz wrote:
    >>
    >>> Has any one made a loaf of bread in a bread machine that is not a lump
    >>> of lead?

    >>
    >> I suspect they have and you're just a troll.
    >>
    >> -sw

    > Just got a new machine every loaf is a lump of lead.
    > I might be expecting too much I like very light slightly clammy bread
    > The machine seems to make a loaf half the size of a commercial loaf of
    > the same weight so it is twice as heavy


    Sounds like you either have a bad machine or are using the wrong recipe.
    More details would help to troubleshoot.

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    F Murtz Guest

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    atec7 7 wrote:
    > F Murtz wrote:
    >> Sqwertz wrote:
    >>> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:55:14 +1100, F Murtz wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Has any one made a loaf of bread in a bread machine that is not a lump
    >>>> of lead?
    >>>
    >>> I suspect they have and you're just a troll.
    >>>
    >>> -sw

    >> Just got a new machine every loaf is a lump of lead.
    >> I might be expecting too much I like very light slightly clammy bread
    >> The machine seems to make a loaf half the size of a commercial loaf of
    >> the same weight so it is twice as heavy

    > Change the mix brand
    >
    > sometimes they simply wont work in a machine
    >
    > try a multi-grain or similar and possibly add more fluid

    Just made another loaf,most successful so far, did not use commercial
    mix this time just cheap cake flour marge salt yeast water sugar.
    Still too heavy by my liking but more like bread,less like the
    consistency of pumpernickel.

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    George Shirley Guest

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    F Murtz wrote:
    > atec7 7 wrote:
    >> F Murtz wrote:
    >>> Sqwertz wrote:
    >>>> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:55:14 +1100, F Murtz wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> Has any one made a loaf of bread in a bread machine that is not a lump
    >>>>> of lead?
    >>>>
    >>>> I suspect they have and you're just a troll.
    >>>>
    >>>> -sw
    >>> Just got a new machine every loaf is a lump of lead.
    >>> I might be expecting too much I like very light slightly clammy bread
    >>> The machine seems to make a loaf half the size of a commercial loaf of
    >>> the same weight so it is twice as heavy

    >> Change the mix brand
    >>
    >> sometimes they simply wont work in a machine
    >>
    >> try a multi-grain or similar and possibly add more fluid

    > Just made another loaf,most successful so far, did not use commercial
    > mix this time just cheap cake flour marge salt yeast water sugar.
    > Still too heavy by my liking but more like bread,less like the
    > consistency of pumpernickel.


    What Janet said, it always helps to read the instruction manual too.

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    Janet Bostwick Guest

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    "F Murtz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:4b13e275$[email protected]..
    snip

    > Just made another loaf,most successful so far, did not use commercial mix
    > this time just cheap cake flour marge salt yeast water sugar.
    > Still too heavy by my liking but more like bread,less like the consistency
    > of pumpernickel.


    Do not use "cake flour." There are 3 kinds of flour. Cake flour (comes in
    a box), All Purpose Flour and Bread Flour. Either All Purpose flour or
    Bread flour will be all right -- as long as you use the flour that is called
    for in the recipe. Cake flour is not capable of holding the air bubbles
    that make the bread rise. Be sure to use a recipe that is developed for use
    in bread machines. Follow the directions for your bread machine.
    Janet



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    l, not -l Guest

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    On 30-Nov-2009, F Murtz <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Has any one made a loaf of bread in a bread machine that is not a lump
    > of lead?


    Hundreds of non-lump loaves over 16 years; only two lumps in that same time.

    Most likely cause of lump of lead; a person who believes they can simply
    dump the ingredients in the machine and walk away. The reality is, you need
    to watch the dough and fiddle with the amount of flour and water that makes
    a nice ball of dough, that is slightly sticky to the touch.

    Second most likely cause is poor measurement technique; a cup of flour can
    range from about 2/3s to 1 1/2 times the required amount of flour, depending
    on how it is measured. Sticking the cup in the flour bag and scooping, then
    scrape off the excess is the worst; spooning flour from the bag into a
    measuring cup and using a knife edge to level is much better. Weighing (a
    cup of flour is 4 ounces, 120 grams) the flour provides me with the most
    consistent results.

    Third most likely cause is forgetting to add the yeast or having yeast that
    is no longer viable.

    A distant fourth is too much chlorine in your water supply; use filtered or
    bottled water instead.

    Most important; buy or get from the library, a copy of Bread Magic Book of
    Helpful Hints by Conway and Rehberg, read it and use the information to make
    better bread. While you're at it, Bread Machine Magic by Conway and Rehberg
    will provide you with a lot of very good recipes and a few tips for making
    better bread.
    --
    Change Cujo to Juno in email address.

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    l, not -l Guest

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    On 30-Nov-2009, F Murtz <[email protected]> wrote:

    > I might be expecting too much I like very light slightly clammy bread


    Do you mean Wonder bread?
    --
    Change Cujo to Juno in email address.

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    gloria.p Guest

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    F Murtz wrote:
    > Has any one made a loaf of bread in a bread machine that is not a lump
    > of lead?



    Many times. But don't expect "Wonder Bread" texture. That stuff
    is made in outer space of chemicals unknown on this planet.

    gloria p

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    F Murtz Guest

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    Janet Bostwick wrote:
    > "F Murtz"<[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:4b13e275$[email protected]..
    > snip
    >
    >> Just made another loaf,most successful so far, did not use commercial mix
    >> this time just cheap cake flour marge salt yeast water sugar.
    >> Still too heavy by my liking but more like bread,less like the consistency
    >> of pumpernickel.

    >
    > Do not use "cake flour." There are 3 kinds of flour. Cake flour (comes in
    > a box), All Purpose Flour and Bread Flour. Either All Purpose flour or
    > Bread flour will be all right -- as long as you use the flour that is called
    > for in the recipe. Cake flour is not capable of holding the air bubbles
    > that make the bread rise. Be sure to use a recipe that is developed for use
    > in bread machines. Follow the directions for your bread machine.
    > Janet
    >
    >

    The most successful loaf so far was using plain cheap ordinary aldi
    flour that I normally use for everything to the recipe that came with
    machine so I must be getting quantities wrong with the commercial bread
    mix containing bread flour

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    F Murtz Guest

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    gloria.p wrote:
    > F Murtz wrote:
    >> Has any one made a loaf of bread in a bread machine that is not a lump
    >> of lead?

    >
    >
    > Many times. But don't expect "Wonder Bread" texture. That stuff is made
    > in outer space of chemicals unknown on this planet.
    >
    > gloria p

    Never heard of wonder bread in Australia
    My ideal bread is Vienna bread shop type consistency Similar to the
    stuff we used to get from the baker with his horse and cart 50 years ago
    still warm

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    [email protected] Guest

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    On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 02:19:19 +1100, F Murtz <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >atec7 7 wrote:
    >> F Murtz wrote:
    >>> Sqwertz wrote:
    >>>> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:55:14 +1100, F Murtz wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> Has any one made a loaf of bread in a bread machine that is not a lump
    >>>>> of lead?
    >>>>
    >>>> I suspect they have and you're just a troll.
    >>>>
    >>>> -sw
    >>> Just got a new machine every loaf is a lump of lead.
    >>> I might be expecting too much I like very light slightly clammy bread
    >>> The machine seems to make a loaf half the size of a commercial loaf of
    >>> the same weight so it is twice as heavy

    >> Change the mix brand
    >>
    >> sometimes they simply wont work in a machine
    >>
    >> try a multi-grain or similar and possibly add more fluid

    >Just made another loaf,most successful so far, did not use commercial
    >mix this time just cheap cake flour marge salt yeast water sugar.
    >Still too heavy by my liking but more like bread,less like the
    >consistency of pumpernickel.


    Don't use cake flour. Not enough gluten. Use all-purpose or "bread"
    flour, preferably with 12% protein. Adding a tablespoon or two of
    vital wheat gluten or gluten flour may also help.

    Ross.

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    Ms P Guest

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    "F Murtz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:4b13a490$[email protected]..
    > Has any one made a loaf of bread in a bread machine that is not a lump of
    > lead?


    I gave my bread machine away because all I ever got out of it was hot Wonder
    bread. Yuck.

    Ms P


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    Kalmia Guest

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    On Nov 30, 5:55*am, F Murtz <hagg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    > Has any one made a loaf of bread in a bread machine that is not a lump
    > of lead?


    FWIW, I make my own bread flour - I add a T of gluten to a cup of all
    purp flour. I swear the gluten makes a big diff.

    Be sure you are measuring correctly, (not scooping, but using the
    shaking-spoon method ), that your yeast isn't from the Old Stone Age,
    and I heat the water a bit to about 110 F.

    You might also want to use the machine just to knead and let rise.
    Then pop it in your regular oven, esp. if you like the more
    traditional loaf shape.




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