Thread: bread machine

On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:55:14 +1100, F Murtz wrote:

> Has any one made a loaf of bread in a bread machine that is not a lump
> of lead?

I suspect they have and you're just a troll.

-sw

On Nov 30, 6:06*am, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:55:14 +1100, F Murtz wrote:
> > Has any one made a loaf of bread in a bread machine that is not a lump
> > of lead?
>
> I suspect they have and you're just a troll.
>
> -sw


I've never had a bad loaf of bread from my bread machine.

F Murtz wrote:
> Has any one made a loaf of bread in a bread machine that is not a lump
> of lead?
Get in behind
yes of course here are machines that work
Like my Panasonic

Sqwertz wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:55:14 +1100, F Murtz wrote:
>
>> Has any one made a loaf of bread in a bread machine that is not a lump
>> of lead?
>
> I suspect they have and you're just a troll.
>
> -sw
Just got a new machine every loaf is a lump of lead.
I might be expecting too much I like very light slightly clammy bread
The machine seems to make a loaf half the size of a commercial loaf of
the same weight so it is twice as heavy

F Murtz wrote:
> Has any one made a loaf of bread in a bread machine that is not a lump
> of lead?

Y

On Nov 30, 5:55*am, F Murtz <hagg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Has any one made a loaf of bread in a bread machine that is not a lump
> of lead?

Yes - thousands of 'em. Why don't you give us the particulars, i.e.
brand of machine, a typical recipe?

F Murtz wrote:
> Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:55:14 +1100, F Murtz wrote:
>>
>>> Has any one made a loaf of bread in a bread machine that is not a lump
>>> of lead?
>>
>> I suspect they have and you're just a troll.
>>
>> -sw
> Just got a new machine every loaf is a lump of lead.
> I might be expecting too much I like very light slightly clammy bread
> The machine seems to make a loaf half the size of a commercial loaf of
> the same weight so it is twice as heavy
Change the mix brand

sometimes they simply wont work in a machine

try a multi-grain or similar and possibly add more fluid

F Murtz wrote:
> Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:55:14 +1100, F Murtz wrote:
>>
>>> Has any one made a loaf of bread in a bread machine that is not a lump
>>> of lead?
>>
>> I suspect they have and you're just a troll.
>>
>> -sw
> Just got a new machine every loaf is a lump of lead.
> I might be expecting too much I like very light slightly clammy bread
> The machine seems to make a loaf half the size of a commercial loaf of
> the same weight so it is twice as heavy

Sounds like you either have a bad machine or are using the wrong recipe.
More details would help to troubleshoot.

atec7 7 wrote:
> F Murtz wrote:
>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:55:14 +1100, F Murtz wrote:
>>>
>>>> Has any one made a loaf of bread in a bread machine that is not a lump
>>>> of lead?
>>>
>>> I suspect they have and you're just a troll.
>>>
>>> -sw
>> Just got a new machine every loaf is a lump of lead.
>> I might be expecting too much I like very light slightly clammy bread
>> The machine seems to make a loaf half the size of a commercial loaf of
>> the same weight so it is twice as heavy
> Change the mix brand
>
> sometimes they simply wont work in a machine
>
> try a multi-grain or similar and possibly add more fluid
Just made another loaf,most successful so far, did not use commercial
mix this time just cheap cake flour marge salt yeast water sugar.
Still too heavy by my liking but more like bread,less like the
consistency of pumpernickel.

F Murtz wrote:
> atec7 7 wrote:
>> F Murtz wrote:
>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:55:14 +1100, F Murtz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Has any one made a loaf of bread in a bread machine that is not a lump
>>>>> of lead?
>>>>
>>>> I suspect they have and you're just a troll.
>>>>
>>>> -sw
>>> Just got a new machine every loaf is a lump of lead.
>>> I might be expecting too much I like very light slightly clammy bread
>>> The machine seems to make a loaf half the size of a commercial loaf of
>>> the same weight so it is twice as heavy
>> Change the mix brand
>>
>> sometimes they simply wont work in a machine
>>
>> try a multi-grain or similar and possibly add more fluid
> Just made another loaf,most successful so far, did not use commercial
> mix this time just cheap cake flour marge salt yeast water sugar.
> Still too heavy by my liking but more like bread,less like the
> consistency of pumpernickel.

What Janet said, it always helps to read the instruction manual too.

"F Murtz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:4b13e275$[email protected]..
snip

> Just made another loaf,most successful so far, did not use commercial mix
> this time just cheap cake flour marge salt yeast water sugar.
> Still too heavy by my liking but more like bread,less like the consistency
> of pumpernickel.

Do not use "cake flour." There are 3 kinds of flour. Cake flour (comes in
a box), All Purpose Flour and Bread Flour. Either All Purpose flour or
Bread flour will be all right -- as long as you use the flour that is called
for in the recipe. Cake flour is not capable of holding the air bubbles
that make the bread rise. Be sure to use a recipe that is developed for use
in bread machines. Follow the directions for your bread machine.
Janet

On 30-Nov-2009, F Murtz <[email protected]> wrote:

> Has any one made a loaf of bread in a bread machine that is not a lump
> of lead?

Hundreds of non-lump loaves over 16 years; only two lumps in that same time.

Most likely cause of lump of lead; a person who believes they can simply
dump the ingredients in the machine and walk away. The reality is, you need
to watch the dough and fiddle with the amount of flour and water that makes
a nice ball of dough, that is slightly sticky to the touch.

Second most likely cause is poor measurement technique; a cup of flour can
range from about 2/3s to 1 1/2 times the required amount of flour, depending
on how it is measured. Sticking the cup in the flour bag and scooping, then
scrape off the excess is the worst; spooning flour from the bag into a
measuring cup and using a knife edge to level is much better. Weighing (a
cup of flour is 4 ounces, 120 grams) the flour provides me with the most
consistent results.

Third most likely cause is forgetting to add the yeast or having yeast that
is no longer viable.

A distant fourth is too much chlorine in your water supply; use filtered or
bottled water instead.

Most important; buy or get from the library, a copy of Bread Magic Book of
Helpful Hints by Conway and Rehberg, read it and use the information to make
better bread. While you're at it, Bread Machine Magic by Conway and Rehberg
will provide you with a lot of very good recipes and a few tips for making
better bread.
--
Change Cujo to Juno in email address.

On 30-Nov-2009, F Murtz <[email protected]> wrote:

> I might be expecting too much I like very light slightly clammy bread

Do you mean Wonder bread?
--
Change Cujo to Juno in email address.

F Murtz wrote:
> Has any one made a loaf of bread in a bread machine that is not a lump
> of lead?


Many times. But don't expect "Wonder Bread" texture. That stuff
is made in outer space of chemicals unknown on this planet.

gloria p

Janet Bostwick wrote:
> "F Murtz"<[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:4b13e275$[email protected]..
> snip
>
>> Just made another loaf,most successful so far, did not use commercial mix
>> this time just cheap cake flour marge salt yeast water sugar.
>> Still too heavy by my liking but more like bread,less like the consistency
>> of pumpernickel.
>
> Do not use "cake flour." There are 3 kinds of flour. Cake flour (comes in
> a box), All Purpose Flour and Bread Flour. Either All Purpose flour or
> Bread flour will be all right -- as long as you use the flour that is called
> for in the recipe. Cake flour is not capable of holding the air bubbles
> that make the bread rise. Be sure to use a recipe that is developed for use
> in bread machines. Follow the directions for your bread machine.
> Janet
>
>
The most successful loaf so far was using plain cheap ordinary aldi
flour that I normally use for everything to the recipe that came with
machine so I must be getting quantities wrong with the commercial bread
mix containing bread flour

gloria.p wrote:
> F Murtz wrote:
>> Has any one made a loaf of bread in a bread machine that is not a lump
>> of lead?
>
>
> Many times. But don't expect "Wonder Bread" texture. That stuff is made
> in outer space of chemicals unknown on this planet.
>
> gloria p
Never heard of wonder bread in Australia
My ideal bread is Vienna bread shop type consistency Similar to the
stuff we used to get from the baker with his horse and cart 50 years ago
still warm

On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 02:19:19 +1100, F Murtz <[email protected]>
wrote:

>atec7 7 wrote:
>> F Murtz wrote:
>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:55:14 +1100, F Murtz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Has any one made a loaf of bread in a bread machine that is not a lump
>>>>> of lead?
>>>>
>>>> I suspect they have and you're just a troll.
>>>>
>>>> -sw
>>> Just got a new machine every loaf is a lump of lead.
>>> I might be expecting too much I like very light slightly clammy bread
>>> The machine seems to make a loaf half the size of a commercial loaf of
>>> the same weight so it is twice as heavy
>> Change the mix brand
>>
>> sometimes they simply wont work in a machine
>>
>> try a multi-grain or similar and possibly add more fluid
>Just made another loaf,most successful so far, did not use commercial
>mix this time just cheap cake flour marge salt yeast water sugar.
>Still too heavy by my liking but more like bread,less like the
>consistency of pumpernickel.

Don't use cake flour. Not enough gluten. Use all-purpose or "bread"
flour, preferably with 12% protein. Adding a tablespoon or two of
vital wheat gluten or gluten flour may also help.

Ross.

"F Murtz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:4b13a490$[email protected]..
> Has any one made a loaf of bread in a bread machine that is not a lump of
> lead?

I gave my bread machine away because all I ever got out of it was hot Wonder
bread. Yuck.

Ms P

On Nov 30, 5:55*am, F Murtz <hagg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Has any one made a loaf of bread in a bread machine that is not a lump
> of lead?

FWIW, I make my own bread flour - I add a T of gluten to a cup of all
purp flour. I swear the gluten makes a big diff.

Be sure you are measuring correctly, (not scooping, but using the
shaking-spoon method ), that your yeast isn't from the Old Stone Age,
and I heat the water a bit to about 110 F.

You might also want to use the machine just to knead and let rise.
Then pop it in your regular oven, esp. if you like the more
traditional loaf shape.