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    Sqwertz Guest

    Default Re: Box Of Trader Joe's Chicken Shu Mai Ties Previous Record !!!

    Mark Thorson wrote:
    > Some of you may remember my technique for buying
    > Jeno's Pizza Rolls. I'd hold the box horizontally
    > and gently rock it from side-to-side to measure
    > the amount of free space inside. The more free
    > space there is, the fewer pizza rolls.
    >
    > I haven't eaten those in a long time, in fact,
    > they're no longer made. But I do eat lots of
    > Trader Joe's Chicken Shu Mai, and I use the same
    > technique on them.
    >
    > A confounding factor is the frozen shu mai are
    > in a plastic bag inside the box, which restricts
    > their movement. (Jeno's Pizza Rolls had no bag
    > inside the box.) Nevertheless, the technique is
    > useful.
    >
    > Today, I got a box that when I picked it up,
    > I could hardly sense any movement inside, so
    > right away I knew this one was a keeper, but
    > I've had boxes like that before which only
    > had 18 shu mai inside. Most boxes contain 17
    > or 18. A few have 19, and a very few have 20.
    > This one had 20! Only the second time I've
    > found a box with 20 shu mai inside! It must
    > be the harbinger of something good! I must be
    > living right, and the gods are smiling on me!


    Why don't you just weigh the damn boxes (like ... in the produce or bulkl
    foods section)? The number of pieces is irrelevant.

    Did they give you 5 nickels in change on the way out?

    -sw

  2. #2
    George Guest

    Default Re: Box Of Trader Joe's Chicken Shu Mai Ties Previous Record !!!

    Mark Thorson wrote:
    > Some of you may remember my technique for buying
    > Jeno's Pizza Rolls. I'd hold the box horizontally
    > and gently rock it from side-to-side to measure
    > the amount of free space inside. The more free
    > space there is, the fewer pizza rolls.
    >
    > I haven't eaten those in a long time, in fact,
    > they're no longer made. But I do eat lots of
    > Trader Joe's Chicken Shu Mai, and I use the same
    > technique on them.
    >
    > A confounding factor is the frozen shu mai are
    > in a plastic bag inside the box, which restricts
    > their movement. (Jeno's Pizza Rolls had no bag
    > inside the box.) Nevertheless, the technique is
    > useful.
    >
    > Today, I got a box that when I picked it up,
    > I could hardly sense any movement inside, so
    > right away I knew this one was a keeper, but
    > I've had boxes like that before which only
    > had 18 shu mai inside. Most boxes contain 17
    > or 18. A few have 19, and a very few have 20.
    > This one had 20! Only the second time I've
    > found a box with 20 shu mai inside! It must
    > be the harbinger of something good! I must be
    > living right, and the gods are smiling on me!



    I think you have way too much time on your hands...

  3. #3
    James Silverton Guest

    Default Re: Box Of Trader Joe's Chicken Shu Mai Ties Previous Record !!!

    George wrote on Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:37:58 -0400:

    > Mark Thorson wrote:
    >> Some of you may remember my technique for buying
    >> Jeno's Pizza Rolls. I'd hold the box horizontally
    >> and gently rock it from side-to-side to measure
    >> the amount of free space inside. The more free
    >> space there is, the fewer pizza rolls.
    >>
    >> I haven't eaten those in a long time, in fact,
    >> they're no longer made. But I do eat lots of
    >> Trader Joe's Chicken Shu Mai, and I use the same
    >> technique on them.
    >>


    I don't know about TJ's Shu Mai but their frozen Wonton's are sold by
    weight (12oz) so I don't know what's the point in counting.

    --

    James Silverton
    Potomac, Maryland

    Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not


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    Mark Thorson Guest

    Default Box Of Trader Joe's Chicken Shu Mai Ties Previous Record !!!

    Some of you may remember my technique for buying
    Jeno's Pizza Rolls. I'd hold the box horizontally
    and gently rock it from side-to-side to measure
    the amount of free space inside. The more free
    space there is, the fewer pizza rolls.

    I haven't eaten those in a long time, in fact,
    they're no longer made. But I do eat lots of
    Trader Joe's Chicken Shu Mai, and I use the same
    technique on them.

    A confounding factor is the frozen shu mai are
    in a plastic bag inside the box, which restricts
    their movement. (Jeno's Pizza Rolls had no bag
    inside the box.) Nevertheless, the technique is
    useful.

    Today, I got a box that when I picked it up,
    I could hardly sense any movement inside, so
    right away I knew this one was a keeper, but
    I've had boxes like that before which only
    had 18 shu mai inside. Most boxes contain 17
    or 18. A few have 19, and a very few have 20.
    This one had 20! Only the second time I've
    found a box with 20 shu mai inside! It must
    be the harbinger of something good! I must be
    living right, and the gods are smiling on me!

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    Mark Thorson Guest

    Default Re: Box Of Trader Joe's Chicken Shu Mai Ties Previous Record !!!

    Sqwertz wrote:
    >
    > Why don't you just weigh the damn boxes (like ... in the produce or bulkl
    > foods section)? The number of pieces is irrelevant.


    I'm not about to carry a stack of boxes from the frozen
    section to somewhere else for weighing. Also, no TJ's
    I've ever seen had a bulk section. The produce is sold
    by the piece or in prewrapped packages.

    My technique is quick and easy, and not obvious to the
    casual observer.

    > Did they give you 5 nickels in change on the way out?


    They always give me change in the fewest number of coins.
    The change is made by people, not automatic change machines.

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    Mark Thorson Guest

    Default Re: Box Of Trader Joe's Chicken Shu Mai Ties Previous Record !!!

    George wrote:
    >
    > Mark Thorson wrote:
    > > Some of you may remember my technique for buying
    > > Jeno's Pizza Rolls. I'd hold the box horizontally
    > > and gently rock it from side-to-side to measure
    > > the amount of free space inside. The more free
    > > space there is, the fewer pizza rolls.
    > >
    > > I haven't eaten those in a long time, in fact,
    > > they're no longer made. But I do eat lots of
    > > Trader Joe's Chicken Shu Mai, and I use the same
    > > technique on them.
    > >
    > > A confounding factor is the frozen shu mai are
    > > in a plastic bag inside the box, which restricts
    > > their movement. (Jeno's Pizza Rolls had no bag
    > > inside the box.) Nevertheless, the technique is
    > > useful.
    > >
    > > Today, I got a box that when I picked it up,
    > > I could hardly sense any movement inside, so
    > > right away I knew this one was a keeper, but
    > > I've had boxes like that before which only
    > > had 18 shu mai inside. Most boxes contain 17
    > > or 18. A few have 19, and a very few have 20.
    > > This one had 20! Only the second time I've
    > > found a box with 20 shu mai inside! It must
    > > be the harbinger of something good! I must be
    > > living right, and the gods are smiling on me!

    >
    > I think you have way too much time on your hands...


    Nonsense. It took maybe 15 seconds to test three
    boxes. The winner was the first box I picked up,
    but I checked two others just to confirm that it
    really was packed tighter than a typical box.

    Living smart does not require significantly more
    time than living stupid. And I get large returns
    for that little amount of time.

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    Mark Thorson Guest

    Default Re: Box Of Trader Joe's Chicken Shu Mai Ties Previous Record !!!

    James Silverton wrote:
    >
    > I don't know about TJ's Shu Mai but their frozen Wonton's are sold by
    > weight (12oz) so I don't know what's the point in counting.


    Apparently, there's a large variation. I get the ones
    which have extra, and goats can eat the other ones
    for all I care.

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    Chemo the Clown Guest

    Default Re: Box Of Trader Joe's Chicken Shu Mai Ties Previous Record !!!

    On Mar 31, 2:56*pm, Mark Thorson <nos...@sonic.net> wrote:
    > James Silverton wrote:
    >
    > > I don't know about TJ's Shu Mai but their frozen Wonton's are sold by
    > > weight (12oz) so I don't know what's the point in counting.

    >
    > Apparently, there's a large variation. *I get the ones
    > which have extra, and goats can eat the other ones
    > for all I care.


    Extra, schmextra....sold by weight...doesn't matter whether you gt 5
    or 20...you're still getting the same weight.

  9. #9
    Melba's Jammin' Guest

    Default Re: Box Of Trader Joe's Chicken Shu Mai Ties Previous Record !!!

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Mark Thorson <[email protected]> wrote:

    > This one had 20! Only the second time I've
    > found a box with 20 shu mai inside! It must
    > be the harbinger of something good! I must be
    > living right, and the gods are smiling on me!


    Or they must've had smaller chicken bits and needed to make weight. :-0)
    --
    -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
    http://web.me.com/barbschaller - updated 3-30-2009
    "What you say about someone else says more
    about you than it does about the other person."

  10. #10
    Dan Abel Guest

    Default Re: Box Of Trader Joe's Chicken Shu Mai Ties Previous Record !!!

    In article <gqttvk$4c9$[email protected]>,
    Sqwertz <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Mark Thorson wrote:


    > > Today, I got a box that when I picked it up,
    > > I could hardly sense any movement inside, so
    > > right away I knew this one was a keeper, but
    > > I've had boxes like that before which only
    > > had 18 shu mai inside. Most boxes contain 17
    > > or 18. A few have 19, and a very few have 20.
    > > This one had 20! Only the second time I've
    > > found a box with 20 shu mai inside! It must
    > > be the harbinger of something good! I must be
    > > living right, and the gods are smiling on me!

    >
    > Why don't you just weigh the damn boxes (like ... in the produce or bulkl
    > foods section)? The number of pieces is irrelevant.
    >
    > Did they give you 5 nickels in change on the way out?


    I still remember when I was a kid and my sister got a nickel and I only
    got a dime. I had a good and proper temper tantrum. My mother tried to
    convince me that the dime was worth more, but I wasn't stupid! The
    nickel was clearly *much* bigger.

    I guess that made an impression on me?

    :-)

    --
    Dan Abel
    Petaluma, California USA
    [email protected]

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    Mark Thorson Guest

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    Chemo the Clown wrote:
    >
    > On Mar 31, 2:56 pm, Mark Thorson <nos...@sonic.net> wrote:
    > > James Silverton wrote:
    > >
    > > > I don't know about TJ's Shu Mai but their frozen Wonton's are sold by
    > > > weight (12oz) so I don't know what's the point in counting.

    > >
    > > Apparently, there's a large variation. I get the ones
    > > which have extra, and goats can eat the other ones
    > > for all I care.

    >
    > Extra, schmextra....sold by weight...doesn't matter whether you gt 5
    > or 20...you're still getting the same weight.


    No, that's self-evidently not true. There's lots
    more empty space in the boxes with fewer pieces.
    The pieces are all about the same size. Any small
    size variation could not account for a difference
    of three pieces between a sparse box and a fat one.

    You might have total faith in the food packaging
    industry, but that's only because you are operating
    from no evidence. Next time you see a six-pack of
    Coca-Cola in bottles, look at the fill levels of the
    bottles. Here's one of the richest food companies
    in the world, and they can't get the same fill level
    in all six bottles. Some are low and some are high,
    and yet they are probably controlling the fill
    level within 5%, which is a lot tighter than the
    control used in packaging Trader Joe's shu mai.
    (Easier to do with a liquid product than a solid
    that comes in constant-size lumps.)

    But if you wish to continue living non-smart, don't
    let me stop you. For everyone like me, there have
    to be at least a couple like you to balance out
    our luxurious life-style. We want you to believe
    life is fair and that you are _not_ getting the
    short end of the stick. By all means, keep believing
    that. Our entire system relies on you and your kind
    continuing to have faith in the system.

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    sf Guest

    Default Re: Box Of Trader Joe's Chicken Shu Mai Ties Previous Record !!!

    On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:37:58 -0400, George <[email protected]> wrote:

    >I think you have way too much time on your hands...


    LOL! I have never thought about counting the pieces before.


    --
    I love cooking with wine.
    Sometimes I even put it in the food.

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    sf Guest

    Default Re: Box Of Trader Joe's Chicken Shu Mai Ties Previous Record !!!

    On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:17:24 -0800, Mark Thorson <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    <snip>
    >
    >Today, I got a box that when I picked it up,
    >I could hardly sense any movement inside, so
    >right away I knew this one was a keeper, but
    >I've had boxes like that before which only
    >had 18 shu mai inside. Most boxes contain 17
    >or 18. A few have 19, and a very few have 20.
    >This one had 20! Only the second time I've
    >found a box with 20 shu mai inside! It must
    >be the harbinger of something good! I must be
    >living right, and the gods are smiling on me!


    Have you weighed the boxes? Are the boxes with more pieces heavier
    than the ones with fewer?




    --
    I love cooking with wine.
    Sometimes I even put it in the food.

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    Jean B. Guest

    Default Re: Box Of Trader Joe's Chicken Shu Mai Ties Previous Record !!!

    Mark Thorson wrote:
    > Some of you may remember my technique for buying
    > Jeno's Pizza Rolls. I'd hold the box horizontally
    > and gently rock it from side-to-side to measure
    > the amount of free space inside. The more free
    > space there is, the fewer pizza rolls.
    >
    > I haven't eaten those in a long time, in fact,
    > they're no longer made. But I do eat lots of
    > Trader Joe's Chicken Shu Mai, and I use the same
    > technique on them.
    >
    > A confounding factor is the frozen shu mai are
    > in a plastic bag inside the box, which restricts
    > their movement. (Jeno's Pizza Rolls had no bag
    > inside the box.) Nevertheless, the technique is
    > useful.
    >
    > Today, I got a box that when I picked it up,
    > I could hardly sense any movement inside, so
    > right away I knew this one was a keeper, but
    > I've had boxes like that before which only
    > had 18 shu mai inside. Most boxes contain 17
    > or 18. A few have 19, and a very few have 20.
    > This one had 20! Only the second time I've
    > found a box with 20 shu mai inside! It must
    > be the harbinger of something good! I must be
    > living right, and the gods are smiling on me!


    Hmmm. One needs a little scale, I think. <g>

    --
    Jean B.

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    Jean B. Guest

    Default Re: Box Of Trader Joe's Chicken Shu Mai Ties Previous Record !!!

    Sqwertz wrote:
    > Mark Thorson wrote:
    >> Some of you may remember my technique for buying
    >> Jeno's Pizza Rolls. I'd hold the box horizontally
    >> and gently rock it from side-to-side to measure
    >> the amount of free space inside. The more free
    >> space there is, the fewer pizza rolls.
    >>
    >> I haven't eaten those in a long time, in fact,
    >> they're no longer made. But I do eat lots of
    >> Trader Joe's Chicken Shu Mai, and I use the same
    >> technique on them.
    >>
    >> A confounding factor is the frozen shu mai are
    >> in a plastic bag inside the box, which restricts
    >> their movement. (Jeno's Pizza Rolls had no bag
    >> inside the box.) Nevertheless, the technique is
    >> useful.
    >>
    >> Today, I got a box that when I picked it up,
    >> I could hardly sense any movement inside, so
    >> right away I knew this one was a keeper, but
    >> I've had boxes like that before which only
    >> had 18 shu mai inside. Most boxes contain 17
    >> or 18. A few have 19, and a very few have 20.
    >> This one had 20! Only the second time I've
    >> found a box with 20 shu mai inside! It must
    >> be the harbinger of something good! I must be
    >> living right, and the gods are smiling on me!

    >
    > Why don't you just weigh the damn boxes (like ... in the produce or
    > bulkl foods section)? The number of pieces is irrelevant.
    >
    > Did they give you 5 nickels in change on the way out?
    >
    > -sw


    Oh gee, now I have a vision of someone carting all the boxes (or
    whatever) over to such a scale.

    --
    Jean B.

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    Jean B. Guest

    Default Re: Box Of Trader Joe's Chicken Shu Mai Ties Previous Record !!!

    Mark Thorson wrote:
    > James Silverton wrote:
    >> I don't know about TJ's Shu Mai but their frozen Wonton's are sold by
    >> weight (12oz) so I don't know what's the point in counting.

    >
    > Apparently, there's a large variation. I get the ones
    > which have extra, and goats can eat the other ones
    > for all I care.


    Do you ever weight the packages after you get home?

    --
    Jean B.

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    James Silverton Guest

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    Jean wrote on Wed, 01 Apr 2009 08:17:21 -0400:

    > Oh gee, now I have a vision of someone carting all the boxes
    > (or whatever) over to such a scale.


    George's original comment about people with time on their hands still
    seems applicable. I wonder if Mark counts the number of pills dispensed
    by a pharmacy? That might be a bit more important and I've had my doubts
    sometimes when I have to renew a prescription earlier than I expect.
    I've never bothered to check especially since I have one that should
    have 270 pills.

    --

    James Silverton
    Potomac, Maryland

    Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not


  18. #18
    Nancy Young Guest

    Default Re: Box Of Trader Joe's Chicken Shu Mai Ties Previous Record !!!

    James Silverton wrote:

    > George's original comment about people with time on their hands still
    > seems applicable. I wonder if Mark counts the number of pills
    > dispensed by a pharmacy? That might be a bit more important and I've
    > had my doubts sometimes when I have to renew a prescription earlier
    > than I expect. I've never bothered to check especially since I have
    > one that should have 270 pills.


    I was surprised to find myself out of antibiotics last time I filled
    a prescription. Did the math and I was 6 pills short. They tell
    you to take all your antibiotics and not stop early. I called and
    they gave me more pills no questions asked. How easy would
    it be to make a simple mistake with almost 300 pills?

    nancy

  19. #19
    James Silverton Guest

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    Nancy wrote on Wed, 1 Apr 2009 08:43:31 -0400:

    >> George's original comment about people with time on their
    >> hands still seems applicable. I wonder if Mark counts the
    >> number of pills dispensed by a pharmacy? That might be a bit more
    >> important and I've had my doubts sometimes when I have
    >> to renew a prescription earlier than I expect. I've never
    >> bothered to check especially since I have one that should
    >> have 270 pills.


    > I was surprised to find myself out of antibiotics last time I filled a
    > prescription. Did the math and I was 6 pills short. They tell you to
    > take all your antibiotics and not stop early.
    > I called and they gave me more pills no questions asked. How easy
    > would it be to make a simple mistake with almost 300
    > pills?


    You know, I've never investigated how large numbers of pills are
    counted. I suppose there must be some sort of machines and it's not
    totally unlikely that they could get out of adjustment.
    --

    James Silverton
    Potomac, Maryland

    Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not


  20. #20
    Goomba Guest

    Default Re: Box Of Trader Joe's Chicken Shu Mai Ties Previous Record !!!

    James Silverton wrote:

    > You know, I've never investigated how large numbers of pills are
    > counted. I suppose there must be some sort of machines and it's not
    > totally unlikely that they could get out of adjustment.


    Most pharmacies pour the large bottled pills into a small plastic tray
    and using a spatula they hand count and separate the desired number of
    pills into chamber which then pours them into the prescription bottle.

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