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  1. #1
    Anthony Ferrante Guest

    Default Best "beans" for bean soup?

    I am going to make some bean soup in my crockpot soon. This will be
    the first time for me.

    Are great northern beans the best to use? Also some have told me to
    soak them first. Others say not to since they will slow cook in the
    pot. Your thoughts?

    Anyone have any simple recipes you use for this which you might want
    to share? I thought about going online and checking out the recipe for
    The Senate Bean Soup. Anyone ever make that and if so, your thoughts
    on it compared to other versions?

    Thanks,
    Anthony

  2. #2
    Serene Guest

    Default Re: Best "beans" for bean soup?

    Anthony Ferrante wrote:
    > I am going to make some bean soup in my crockpot soon. This will be
    > the first time for me.
    >
    > Are great northern beans the best to use?


    No. There's no "best". You need to make soup with different beans
    and see which ones you like. I love great northerns in soup, but
    there are lots of other good ones.

    > Also some have told me to
    > soak them first. Others say not to since they will slow cook in the
    > pot. Your thoughts?


    Some people say that soaking (and then rinsing) removes some of the
    chemicals that cause flatulence. I soak if I remember, not if I
    don't. It means they take a bit longer, though, so if your recipe
    calls for soaked beans, you won't get the timing you're looking for.

    >
    > Anyone have any simple recipes you use for this which you might want
    > to share? I thought about going online and checking out the recipe for
    > The Senate Bean Soup. Anyone ever make that and if so, your thoughts
    > on it compared to other versions?


    I haven't made it, but an easy bean soup that my family likes is
    this: Cook 4 slices of bacon in a soup pot. Remove the bacon from
    the pot and cook a chopped onion in the grease. Add white beans,
    enough water to cover plus two inches, a sliced carrot, and a bay
    leaf. Bring to a boil, simmer until the beans are good and soft,
    adding water if necessary. Season to taste (black pepper and hot
    sauce are good choices).

    Serene

  3. #3
    Serene Guest

    Default Re: Best "beans" for bean soup?

    Anthony Ferrante wrote:
    > I am going to make some bean soup in my crockpot soon. This will be
    > the first time for me.
    >
    > Are great northern beans the best to use?


    No. There's no "best". You need to make soup with different beans
    and see which ones you like. I love great northerns in soup, but
    there are lots of other good ones.

    > Also some have told me to
    > soak them first. Others say not to since they will slow cook in the
    > pot. Your thoughts?


    Some people say that soaking (and then rinsing) removes some of the
    chemicals that cause flatulence. I soak if I remember, not if I
    don't. It means they take a bit longer, though, so if your recipe
    calls for soaked beans, you won't get the timing you're looking for.

    >
    > Anyone have any simple recipes you use for this which you might want
    > to share? I thought about going online and checking out the recipe for
    > The Senate Bean Soup. Anyone ever make that and if so, your thoughts
    > on it compared to other versions?


    I haven't made it, but an easy bean soup that my family likes is
    this: Cook 4 slices of bacon in a soup pot. Remove the bacon from
    the pot and cook a chopped onion in the grease. Add white beans,
    enough water to cover plus two inches, a sliced carrot, and a bay
    leaf. Bring to a boil, simmer until the beans are good and soft,
    adding water if necessary. Season to taste (black pepper and hot
    sauce are good choices).

    Serene

  4. #4
    cybercat Guest

    Default Re: Best "beans" for bean soup?


    "Anthony Ferrante" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news[email protected]..
    >I am going to make some bean soup in my crockpot soon. This will be
    > the first time for me.
    >
    > Are great northern beans the best to use? Also some have told me to
    > soak them first. Others say not to since they will slow cook in the
    > pot. Your thoughts?
    >
    > Anyone have any simple recipes you use for this which you might want
    > to share? I thought about going online and checking out the recipe for
    > The Senate Bean Soup. Anyone ever make that and if so, your thoughts
    > on it compared to other versions?
    >


    I like 15-bean soup blends. Dry beans. The different colors, flavors, and
    textures are really good. I would not use a crockpot, though, it is not
    necessary. If you do, don't add the carrots, onions, etc. until the last
    hour.
    Buy the beans in a bag, and soak them overnight, dumping the water and
    replacing before bringing to a boil then covering and reducing to a simmer.



  5. #5
    cybercat Guest

    Default Re: Best "beans" for bean soup?


    "Anthony Ferrante" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news[email protected]..
    >I am going to make some bean soup in my crockpot soon. This will be
    > the first time for me.
    >
    > Are great northern beans the best to use? Also some have told me to
    > soak them first. Others say not to since they will slow cook in the
    > pot. Your thoughts?
    >
    > Anyone have any simple recipes you use for this which you might want
    > to share? I thought about going online and checking out the recipe for
    > The Senate Bean Soup. Anyone ever make that and if so, your thoughts
    > on it compared to other versions?
    >


    I like 15-bean soup blends. Dry beans. The different colors, flavors, and
    textures are really good. I would not use a crockpot, though, it is not
    necessary. If you do, don't add the carrots, onions, etc. until the last
    hour.
    Buy the beans in a bag, and soak them overnight, dumping the water and
    replacing before bringing to a boil then covering and reducing to a simmer.



  6. #6
    hahabogus Guest

    Default Re: Best "beans" for bean soup?

    Serene <[email protected]> wrote in news:66vtprF2m9lu2U1
    @mid.individual.net:

    > Anthony Ferrante wrote:
    >> I am going to make some bean soup in my crockpot soon. This will be
    >> the first time for me.
    >>
    >> Are great northern beans the best to use?

    >
    > No. There's no "best". You need to make soup with different beans
    > and see which ones you like. I love great northerns in soup, but
    > there are lots of other good ones.
    >
    > > Also some have told me to
    >> soak them first. Others say not to since they will slow cook in the
    >> pot. Your thoughts?

    >
    > Some people say that soaking (and then rinsing) removes some of the
    > chemicals that cause flatulence. I soak if I remember, not if I
    > don't. It means they take a bit longer, though, so if your recipe
    > calls for soaked beans, you won't get the timing you're looking for.
    >
    >>
    >> Anyone have any simple recipes you use for this which you might want
    >> to share? I thought about going online and checking out the recipe for
    >> The Senate Bean Soup. Anyone ever make that and if so, your thoughts
    >> on it compared to other versions?

    >
    > I haven't made it, but an easy bean soup that my family likes is
    > this: Cook 4 slices of bacon in a soup pot. Remove the bacon from
    > the pot and cook a chopped onion in the grease. Add white beans,
    > enough water to cover plus two inches, a sliced carrot, and a bay
    > leaf. Bring to a boil, simmer until the beans are good and soft,
    > adding water if necessary. Season to taste (black pepper and hot
    > sauce are good choices).
    >
    > Serene
    >


    That's a good basic recipe..but use 3 to 5 differing dried bean types
    instead of just the great northerns and adding some sliced celery doesn't
    hurt. After the beans soften a bit some chopped tomato wouldn't hurt.
    Also consider taking out a portion of the soup and puree it then return
    it to the pot to thicken it up a bit. then add the bacon you cooked after
    crumbling it of course. Also using chicken stock instead of water works
    too. I like to add more celery than carrot as I find the carrot sweetens
    the soup more than I like...But whatever you do it will be edible and
    varying the recipe about a bit make for sometimes a better personal taste
    fit.

    Using garlic sausage in a bean soup works well so does ham, bacon, hot
    sauce and some lime juice (if you use black beans).

    The above was just some thoughts to keep you busy and outa trouble.

    --

    The house of the burning beet-Alan

    A man in line at the bank kept falling over...when he got to a teller he
    asked for his balance.


  7. #7
    hahabogus Guest

    Default Re: Best "beans" for bean soup?

    Serene <[email protected]> wrote in news:66vtprF2m9lu2U1
    @mid.individual.net:

    > Anthony Ferrante wrote:
    >> I am going to make some bean soup in my crockpot soon. This will be
    >> the first time for me.
    >>
    >> Are great northern beans the best to use?

    >
    > No. There's no "best". You need to make soup with different beans
    > and see which ones you like. I love great northerns in soup, but
    > there are lots of other good ones.
    >
    > > Also some have told me to
    >> soak them first. Others say not to since they will slow cook in the
    >> pot. Your thoughts?

    >
    > Some people say that soaking (and then rinsing) removes some of the
    > chemicals that cause flatulence. I soak if I remember, not if I
    > don't. It means they take a bit longer, though, so if your recipe
    > calls for soaked beans, you won't get the timing you're looking for.
    >
    >>
    >> Anyone have any simple recipes you use for this which you might want
    >> to share? I thought about going online and checking out the recipe for
    >> The Senate Bean Soup. Anyone ever make that and if so, your thoughts
    >> on it compared to other versions?

    >
    > I haven't made it, but an easy bean soup that my family likes is
    > this: Cook 4 slices of bacon in a soup pot. Remove the bacon from
    > the pot and cook a chopped onion in the grease. Add white beans,
    > enough water to cover plus two inches, a sliced carrot, and a bay
    > leaf. Bring to a boil, simmer until the beans are good and soft,
    > adding water if necessary. Season to taste (black pepper and hot
    > sauce are good choices).
    >
    > Serene
    >


    That's a good basic recipe..but use 3 to 5 differing dried bean types
    instead of just the great northerns and adding some sliced celery doesn't
    hurt. After the beans soften a bit some chopped tomato wouldn't hurt.
    Also consider taking out a portion of the soup and puree it then return
    it to the pot to thicken it up a bit. then add the bacon you cooked after
    crumbling it of course. Also using chicken stock instead of water works
    too. I like to add more celery than carrot as I find the carrot sweetens
    the soup more than I like...But whatever you do it will be edible and
    varying the recipe about a bit make for sometimes a better personal taste
    fit.

    Using garlic sausage in a bean soup works well so does ham, bacon, hot
    sauce and some lime juice (if you use black beans).

    The above was just some thoughts to keep you busy and outa trouble.

    --

    The house of the burning beet-Alan

    A man in line at the bank kept falling over...when he got to a teller he
    asked for his balance.


  8. #8
    Billy Guest

    Default Re: Best "beans" for bean soup?

    On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 23:49:27 -0400, Anthony Ferrante
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >I am going to make some bean soup in my crockpot soon. This will be
    >the first time for me.


    Beans in a crock pot is a very tricky thing to cook. The number one
    rule of crock pot cooking is to leave the lid ON for the entire time
    of cooking. Every time you remove the lid, you loose about 30
    minuties of cooking time. It takes that long for the crockpot to
    recover the heat loss. This leads to the problem.

    Beans will adsorb this liquid and expand. Getting the correct amount
    of water and beans for the pot size can be tricky. I have had the
    beans swell and move the lid off...and I have had the beans adsorb all
    the liquid and the pot cooks dry. Both scenarios are disaster.

    On the bag of beans will be directions for "quick soak". This
    method works very good. I would use this method and cook in a
    "normal" stock pot twice the volume of the beans being cooked. Great
    Northerns are my favorite.



  9. #9
    Billy Guest

    Default Re: Best "beans" for bean soup?

    On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 23:49:27 -0400, Anthony Ferrante
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >I am going to make some bean soup in my crockpot soon. This will be
    >the first time for me.


    Beans in a crock pot is a very tricky thing to cook. The number one
    rule of crock pot cooking is to leave the lid ON for the entire time
    of cooking. Every time you remove the lid, you loose about 30
    minuties of cooking time. It takes that long for the crockpot to
    recover the heat loss. This leads to the problem.

    Beans will adsorb this liquid and expand. Getting the correct amount
    of water and beans for the pot size can be tricky. I have had the
    beans swell and move the lid off...and I have had the beans adsorb all
    the liquid and the pot cooks dry. Both scenarios are disaster.

    On the bag of beans will be directions for "quick soak". This
    method works very good. I would use this method and cook in a
    "normal" stock pot twice the volume of the beans being cooked. Great
    Northerns are my favorite.



  10. #10
    merryb Guest

    Default Re: Best "beans" for bean soup?

    On Apr 19, 8:49*pm, Anthony Ferrante <ferrante276-ngs...@yahoo.com>
    wrote:
    > I am going to make some bean soup in my crockpot soon. This will be
    > the first time for me.
    >
    > Are great northern beans the best to use? Also some have told me to
    > soak them first. Others say not to since they will slow cook in the
    > pot. Your thoughts?
    >
    > Anyone have any simple recipes you use for this which you might want
    > to share? I thought about going online and checking out the recipe for
    > The Senate Bean Soup. Anyone ever make that and if so, your thoughts
    > on it compared to other versions?
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Anthony


    Hi- Senate bean soup is a winner in my book. I used Great Northern
    beans, and I did soak them for the first time last time I made this
    soup. It may have cut the gas issue a little, but really not enough to
    notice. It's the price you pay...I did it in the crockpot also, and it
    was great!!

  11. #11
    merryb Guest

    Default Re: Best "beans" for bean soup?

    On Apr 19, 8:49*pm, Anthony Ferrante <ferrante276-ngs...@yahoo.com>
    wrote:
    > I am going to make some bean soup in my crockpot soon. This will be
    > the first time for me.
    >
    > Are great northern beans the best to use? Also some have told me to
    > soak them first. Others say not to since they will slow cook in the
    > pot. Your thoughts?
    >
    > Anyone have any simple recipes you use for this which you might want
    > to share? I thought about going online and checking out the recipe for
    > The Senate Bean Soup. Anyone ever make that and if so, your thoughts
    > on it compared to other versions?
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Anthony


    Hi- Senate bean soup is a winner in my book. I used Great Northern
    beans, and I did soak them for the first time last time I made this
    soup. It may have cut the gas issue a little, but really not enough to
    notice. It's the price you pay...I did it in the crockpot also, and it
    was great!!

  12. #12
    blake murphy Guest

    Default Re: Best "beans" for bean soup?

    On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 23:49:27 -0400, Anthony Ferrante
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >I am going to make some bean soup in my crockpot soon. This will be
    >the first time for me.
    >
    >Are great northern beans the best to use? Also some have told me to
    >soak them first. Others say not to since they will slow cook in the
    >pot. Your thoughts?
    >
    >Anyone have any simple recipes you use for this which you might want
    >to share? I thought about going online and checking out the recipe for
    >The Senate Bean Soup. Anyone ever make that and if so, your thoughts
    >on it compared to other versions?
    >
    >Thanks,
    >Anthony


    i soak my beans before cooking, but i use the stove top, not a
    crockpot. most of the 'senate bean soups' i have seen seem rather
    bland to me. i use less water, more ham, no carrots or celery. i
    think my recipe could be adapted to a crockpot:

    bean soup (adapted from 'the everything cookbook.' by betty wason)

    1 cup dried great northern beans (or other)

    8 oz. beer

    4 cups water

    1 bay leaf

    1 tbls cider vinegar

    1 tsp adobo spice (a mix from goya)

    2-3 smoked ham hocks (or 6 oz. [?] package of country ham chips)

    1 medium onion, sliced

    1/4-1/2 tsp whole black peppercorns, ground in spice mill or mortar
    and pestle

    1/4-1/2 tsp rooster sauce (srichacha pepper paste) or 1 tsp bufalo
    chipotle sauce

    * * * * * *

    rinse and pick over beans in colander. soak overnight according to
    package directions. drain. put beer, beans and water in the pot, ham
    hocks and sliced onion. put pepper on top. simmer, covered, about
    three hours. if using, remove hocks and trim meat from fat as best
    you can, and cut meat into small dice. return to pot. add rooster
    sauce or bufalo and adobo. simmer covered another 1/2-1 hour.

    * * * * * *

    i like to add some ketchup to my bowl at serving time, to make it
    kinda pink, but if you think that's gross, don't.

    this is a thick soup, or as my dad refers to his version 'ham stew
    with beans.' it's a main-course item.

    your pal,
    blake

  13. #13
    blake murphy Guest

    Default Re: Best "beans" for bean soup?

    On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 23:49:27 -0400, Anthony Ferrante
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >I am going to make some bean soup in my crockpot soon. This will be
    >the first time for me.
    >
    >Are great northern beans the best to use? Also some have told me to
    >soak them first. Others say not to since they will slow cook in the
    >pot. Your thoughts?
    >
    >Anyone have any simple recipes you use for this which you might want
    >to share? I thought about going online and checking out the recipe for
    >The Senate Bean Soup. Anyone ever make that and if so, your thoughts
    >on it compared to other versions?
    >
    >Thanks,
    >Anthony


    i soak my beans before cooking, but i use the stove top, not a
    crockpot. most of the 'senate bean soups' i have seen seem rather
    bland to me. i use less water, more ham, no carrots or celery. i
    think my recipe could be adapted to a crockpot:

    bean soup (adapted from 'the everything cookbook.' by betty wason)

    1 cup dried great northern beans (or other)

    8 oz. beer

    4 cups water

    1 bay leaf

    1 tbls cider vinegar

    1 tsp adobo spice (a mix from goya)

    2-3 smoked ham hocks (or 6 oz. [?] package of country ham chips)

    1 medium onion, sliced

    1/4-1/2 tsp whole black peppercorns, ground in spice mill or mortar
    and pestle

    1/4-1/2 tsp rooster sauce (srichacha pepper paste) or 1 tsp bufalo
    chipotle sauce

    * * * * * *

    rinse and pick over beans in colander. soak overnight according to
    package directions. drain. put beer, beans and water in the pot, ham
    hocks and sliced onion. put pepper on top. simmer, covered, about
    three hours. if using, remove hocks and trim meat from fat as best
    you can, and cut meat into small dice. return to pot. add rooster
    sauce or bufalo and adobo. simmer covered another 1/2-1 hour.

    * * * * * *

    i like to add some ketchup to my bowl at serving time, to make it
    kinda pink, but if you think that's gross, don't.

    this is a thick soup, or as my dad refers to his version 'ham stew
    with beans.' it's a main-course item.

    your pal,
    blake

  14. #14
    Kent Guest

    Default Re: Best "beans" for bean soup?


    "Anthony Ferrante" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news[email protected]..
    >I am going to make some bean soup in my crockpot soon. This will be
    > the first time for me.
    >
    > Are great northern beans the best to use? Also some have told me to
    > soak them first. Others say not to since they will slow cook in the
    > pot. Your thoughts?
    >
    > Anyone have any simple recipes you use for this which you might want
    > to share? I thought about going online and checking out the recipe for
    > The Senate Bean Soup. Anyone ever make that and if so, your thoughts
    > on it compared to other versions?
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Anthony
    >
    >

    Cannelloni beans

    Kent




  15. #15
    Kent Guest

    Default Re: Best "beans" for bean soup?


    "Anthony Ferrante" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news[email protected]..
    >I am going to make some bean soup in my crockpot soon. This will be
    > the first time for me.
    >
    > Are great northern beans the best to use? Also some have told me to
    > soak them first. Others say not to since they will slow cook in the
    > pot. Your thoughts?
    >
    > Anyone have any simple recipes you use for this which you might want
    > to share? I thought about going online and checking out the recipe for
    > The Senate Bean Soup. Anyone ever make that and if so, your thoughts
    > on it compared to other versions?
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Anthony
    >
    >

    Cannelloni beans

    Kent




  16. #16
    MaryL Guest

    Default Re: Best "beans" for bean soup? (recipe for House of Representatives Bean Soup)


    "Anthony Ferrante" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news[email protected]..
    >I am going to make some bean soup in my crockpot soon. This will be
    > the first time for me.
    >
    > Are great northern beans the best to use? Also some have told me to
    > soak them first. Others say not to since they will slow cook in the
    > pot. Your thoughts?
    >
    > Anyone have any simple recipes you use for this which you might want
    > to share? I thought about going online and checking out the recipe for
    > The Senate Bean Soup. Anyone ever make that and if so, your thoughts
    > on it compared to other versions?
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Anthony


    I'm not familiar with Senate Bean soup, but I have the recipe for bean soup
    that was served in the House of Representatives. I suspect they may be the
    same. I was a congressional intern many years, and I got the recipe at that
    time. I have made it -- it's very easy, and very good. Legend has it that
    it was Sam Rayburn's favorite and he insisted that it be available every
    day. At any rate, it is popular enough with tourists that it is still on
    the daily menu (or was at that time).

    Here's the recipe:

    HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES BEAN SOUP


    Cover 2 pounds of Number 1 white Michigan beans with cold water and soak
    over night. Drain and re-cover with water. Add a smoked ham hock and
    simmer slowly for about 4 hours until beans are tender. Add salt and pepper
    to taste. Just before serving, bruise beans with large spoon or ladle,
    enough to cloud. Recipe serves 6 persons.

    --
    MaryL


  17. #17
    MaryL Guest

    Default Re: Best "beans" for bean soup? (recipe for House of Representatives Bean Soup)


    "Anthony Ferrante" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news[email protected]..
    >I am going to make some bean soup in my crockpot soon. This will be
    > the first time for me.
    >
    > Are great northern beans the best to use? Also some have told me to
    > soak them first. Others say not to since they will slow cook in the
    > pot. Your thoughts?
    >
    > Anyone have any simple recipes you use for this which you might want
    > to share? I thought about going online and checking out the recipe for
    > The Senate Bean Soup. Anyone ever make that and if so, your thoughts
    > on it compared to other versions?
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Anthony


    I'm not familiar with Senate Bean soup, but I have the recipe for bean soup
    that was served in the House of Representatives. I suspect they may be the
    same. I was a congressional intern many years, and I got the recipe at that
    time. I have made it -- it's very easy, and very good. Legend has it that
    it was Sam Rayburn's favorite and he insisted that it be available every
    day. At any rate, it is popular enough with tourists that it is still on
    the daily menu (or was at that time).

    Here's the recipe:

    HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES BEAN SOUP


    Cover 2 pounds of Number 1 white Michigan beans with cold water and soak
    over night. Drain and re-cover with water. Add a smoked ham hock and
    simmer slowly for about 4 hours until beans are tender. Add salt and pepper
    to taste. Just before serving, bruise beans with large spoon or ladle,
    enough to cloud. Recipe serves 6 persons.

    --
    MaryL


  18. #18
    cybercat Guest

    Default Re: Best "beans" for bean soup?


    "Billy" <Hereiam@hotmaildotcom> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 23:49:27 -0400, Anthony Ferrante
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>I am going to make some bean soup in my crockpot soon. This will be
    >>the first time for me.

    >
    > Beans in a crock pot is a very tricky thing to cook.


    The question is, why bother?



  19. #19
    cybercat Guest

    Default Re: Best "beans" for bean soup?


    "Billy" <Hereiam@hotmaildotcom> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 23:49:27 -0400, Anthony Ferrante
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>I am going to make some bean soup in my crockpot soon. This will be
    >>the first time for me.

    >
    > Beans in a crock pot is a very tricky thing to cook.


    The question is, why bother?



  20. #20
    cybercat Guest

    Default Re: Best "beans" for bean soup?


    "Kent" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected] ..
    >
    > "Anthony Ferrante" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news[email protected]..
    >>I am going to make some bean soup in my crockpot soon. This will be
    >> the first time for me.
    >>
    >> Are great northern beans the best to use? Also some have told me to
    >> soak them first. Others say not to since they will slow cook in the
    >> pot. Your thoughts?
    >>
    >> Anyone have any simple recipes you use for this which you might want
    >> to share? I thought about going online and checking out the recipe for
    >> The Senate Bean Soup. Anyone ever make that and if so, your thoughts
    >> on it compared to other versions?
    >>
    >> Thanks,
    >> Anthony
    >>
    >>

    > Cannelloni beans
    >

    If it has to be one-bean soup, I still like navy best. With real ham, not a
    greasy ham hock, carrots and celery finely diced, salt and pepper, maybe a
    bay leaf if you like it.



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