Thread: The bears are back in town

On 23/04/2011 4:34 PM, notbob wrote:
> Not to be confused with the Thin Lizzy song.
>
> Mom's empty dog food cans were the initial draw, I suspect.
> Regardless, the bear apparently suspected the bag of dog food behind
> the locked shed door and made short work of that minor hindrance.
>
> I'm now loading my 44 mag with bear grade rounds and keeping it near.
>
> nb
You could leave a light coating of Citronella over the bins

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On 23/04/2011 5:42 PM, Andy wrote:
> notbob<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Not to be confused with the Thin Lizzy song.
>>
>> Mom's empty dog food cans were the initial draw, I suspect.
>> Regardless, the bear apparently suspected the bag of dog food behind
>> the locked shed door and made short work of that minor hindrance.
>>
>> I'm now loading my 44 mag with bear grade rounds and keeping it near.
>>
>> nb
>
>
> nb,
>
> Better safe than sorry!!!
>
> Pennsylvania has the largest population of black bears in the USA.
>
> Thanks to landfills and housing development (deforestation) they're
> spreading out into residential areas.
>
> I wouldn't walk my woods without a firearm or two!!!
>
> Best,
>
> Andy
>
>
Only thing to be afraid of in my neck of the woods are the drop bears.

Krypsis

Krypsis <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 23/04/2011 5:42 PM, Andy wrote:
>> notbob<[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Not to be confused with the Thin Lizzy song.
>>>
>>> Mom's empty dog food cans were the initial draw, I suspect.
>>> Regardless, the bear apparently suspected the bag of dog food behind
>>> the locked shed door and made short work of that minor hindrance.
>>>
>>> I'm now loading my 44 mag with bear grade rounds and keeping it
near.
>>>
>>> nb
>>
>>
>> nb,
>>
>> Better safe than sorry!!!
>>
>> Pennsylvania has the largest population of black bears in the USA.
>>
>> Thanks to landfills and housing development (deforestation) they're
>> spreading out into residential areas.
>>
>> I wouldn't walk my woods without a firearm or two!!!
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
> Only thing to be afraid of in my neck of the woods are the drop bears.
>
> Krypsis


Krypsis,

If that means Kualas? That is a problem!

Last I heard, the Kualas were overpopulating Tasmania. A pest animal
there.

True or false?

Best,

Andy

In article <[email protected]>,
notbob <[email protected]> wrote:

> Not to be confused with the Thin Lizzy song.
>
> Mom's empty dog food cans were the initial draw, I suspect.
> Regardless, the bear apparently suspected the bag of dog food behind
> the locked shed door and made short work of that minor hindrance.
>
> I'm now loading my 44 mag with bear grade rounds and keeping it near.
>
> nb

You may want to also consider a 12 gauge with slugs...
A decent pump Mossberg can be had for around 100 bucks.

Oh, bear is delicious too, so try for a head shot. <g>
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On 23/04/2011 7:27 PM, Andy wrote:
> Krypsis<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 23/04/2011 5:42 PM, Andy wrote:
>>> notbob<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Not to be confused with the Thin Lizzy song.
>>>>
>>>> Mom's empty dog food cans were the initial draw, I suspect.
>>>> Regardless, the bear apparently suspected the bag of dog food behind
>>>> the locked shed door and made short work of that minor hindrance.
>>>>
>>>> I'm now loading my 44 mag with bear grade rounds and keeping it
> near.
>>>>
>>>> nb
>>>
>>>
>>> nb,
>>>
>>> Better safe than sorry!!!
>>>
>>> Pennsylvania has the largest population of black bears in the USA.
>>>
>>> Thanks to landfills and housing development (deforestation) they're
>>> spreading out into residential areas.
>>>
>>> I wouldn't walk my woods without a firearm or two!!!
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>>
>> Only thing to be afraid of in my neck of the woods are the drop bears.
>>
>> Krypsis
>
>
> Krypsis,
>
> If that means Kualas? That is a problem!
>
> Last I heard, the Kualas were overpopulating Tasmania. A pest animal
> there.
>
> True or false?
>
> Best,
>
> Andy

Yep! they are taking over the place! That's why we're sending some
asylum seekers to Tasmania. We figure if we put the detention centre
right in the middle of the drop bears territory, it might solve the
asylum seeker problem for us. If it works really well, we might just
offer drop bears to Europe where they have really serious asylum seeker
problems. Might get in first myself and start some mass trapping of drop
bears. Get ready for the rush on them, if you see what I mean.

Krypsis

Krypsis <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 23/04/2011 7:27 PM, Andy wrote:
>> Krypsis<[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 23/04/2011 5:42 PM, Andy wrote:
>>>> notbob<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Not to be confused with the Thin Lizzy song.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mom's empty dog food cans were the initial draw, I suspect.
>>>>> Regardless, the bear apparently suspected the bag of dog food
behind
>>>>> the locked shed door and made short work of that minor hindrance.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm now loading my 44 mag with bear grade rounds and keeping it
>> near.
>>>>>
>>>>> nb
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> nb,
>>>>
>>>> Better safe than sorry!!!
>>>>
>>>> Pennsylvania has the largest population of black bears in the USA.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks to landfills and housing development (deforestation) they're
>>>> spreading out into residential areas.
>>>>
>>>> I wouldn't walk my woods without a firearm or two!!!
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Only thing to be afraid of in my neck of the woods are the drop
bears.
>>>
>>> Krypsis
>>
>>
>> Krypsis,
>>
>> If that means Kualas? That is a problem!
>>
>> Last I heard, the Kualas were overpopulating Tasmania. A pest animal
>> there.
>>
>> True or false?
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Andy
>
> Yep! they are taking over the place! That's why we're sending some
> asylum seekers to Tasmania. We figure if we put the detention centre
> right in the middle of the drop bears territory, it might solve the
> asylum seeker problem for us. If it works really well, we might just
> offer drop bears to Europe where they have really serious asylum
seeker
> problems. Might get in first myself and start some mass trapping of
drop
> bears. Get ready for the rush on them, if you see what I mean.
>
> Krypsis


Krypsis,

How long is the Tasmania Kuala eradication expected to take?

I'm unfamiliar with the European project/plan.

Good luck!!!

Best,

Andy

On 23/04/2011 7:09 PM, Krypsis wrote:
> On 23/04/2011 5:42 PM, Andy wrote:
>> notbob<[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Not to be confused with the Thin Lizzy song.
>>>
>>> Mom's empty dog food cans were the initial draw, I suspect.
>>> Regardless, the bear apparently suspected the bag of dog food behind
>>> the locked shed door and made short work of that minor hindrance.
>>>
>>> I'm now loading my 44 mag with bear grade rounds and keeping it near.
>>>
>>> nb
>>
>>
>> nb,
>>
>> Better safe than sorry!!!
>>
>> Pennsylvania has the largest population of black bears in the USA.
>>
>> Thanks to landfills and housing development (deforestation) they're
>> spreading out into residential areas.
>>
>> I wouldn't walk my woods without a firearm or two!!!
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
> Only thing to be afraid of in my neck of the woods are the drop bears.
>
> Krypsis
>
>
PPFFTTTttttttttttttttttttt

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On 2011-04-23, Omelet <[email protected]> wrote:

> A decent pump Mossberg can be had for around 100 bucks.

No need. Gotta Ithaca sawed-off (legal) for house pests.

nb

Swallows' "friend with benefits" wrote:

>> Mom's empty dog food cans were the initial draw, I suspect.
>> Regardless, the bear apparently suspected the bag of dog food behind
>> the locked shed door and made short work of that minor hindrance.
>>
>> I'm now loading my 44 mag with bear grade rounds and keeping it near.
>>
>> nb
> You could leave a light coating of Citronella over the bins

Uh, no. On THIS continent, bears are big animals. Big, hungry, strong, fast,
and armed with sharp claws and teeth. They will not be deterred in the
slightest by "a light coating of Citronella". It would be no more effective
than a light coating of honey.

Bob

In article <[email protected]>,
notbob <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 2011-04-23, Omelet <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > A decent pump Mossberg can be had for around 100 bucks.
>
> No need. Gotta Ithaca sawed-off (legal) for house pests.
>
> nb

Cool! Dad's got an Ithaca semi-auto.
Ticked the hell out of the Benelli owners when dad beat them a couple of
times at turkey shoots. <g>
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On 2011-04-24, Omelet <[email protected]> wrote:

> Cool! Dad's got an Ithaca semi-auto.
> Ticked the hell out of the Benelli owners when dad beat them a couple of
> times at turkey shoots. <g>

I bet!

This is an old Featherlight pump. So old, I can't get a new barrel
from the factory, so am stuck with this 18.5" hacked one. But, I love
the action. Machined solid billet, bottom ejection, and so smooth I
can cycle the pump w/o touching it. Jes grab barrel and stock grip
and jerk entire gun hard and fast enough and the pump will cycle from
inertia. Even more fun, jes hold the trigger down and pump. It'll
fire on each forward pump. Big fun when doing landscaping.

nb

In article <[email protected]>,
notbob <notbob@notbob.invali[email protected]> wrote:

> On 2011-04-24, Omelet <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Cool! Dad's got an Ithaca semi-auto.
> > Ticked the hell out of the Benelli owners when dad beat them a couple of
> > times at turkey shoots. <g>
>
> I bet!
>
> This is an old Featherlight pump. So old, I can't get a new barrel
> from the factory, so am stuck with this 18.5" hacked one. But, I love
> the action. Machined solid billet, bottom ejection, and so smooth I
> can cycle the pump w/o touching it. Jes grab barrel and stock grip
> and jerk entire gun hard and fast enough and the pump will cycle from
> inertia. Even more fun, jes hold the trigger down and pump. It'll
> fire on each forward pump. Big fun when doing landscaping.
>
> nb

It does sound like fun. <g>
I take it that a Mossberg or other barrel would not fit the threading?
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On 2011-04-24, Omelet <[email protected]> wrote:

> It does sound like fun. <g>
> I take it that a Mossberg or other barrel would not fit the threading?

Nope. It's a real unique barrel configuration that comes apart with a
quarter turn. I recall when I first got it about 25 yrs ago, the
company said I'd hafta send it in cuz a new barrel needed to be hand
fitted. I didn't worry about it too much, then, as I had a couple
other shotguns. Now I'm down to this one and I called Ithaca about
getting a new barrel w/ interchangable chokes. They said they don't
even make barrels for guns this old ('50s), anymore, and if I wanted a
new barrel I'd hafta buy a whole new gun. I no longer hunt upland
game and suck at trap, so probably won't bother.

nb

In article <[email protected]>,
notbob <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 2011-04-24, Omelet <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > It does sound like fun. <g>
> > I take it that a Mossberg or other barrel would not fit the threading?
>
> Nope. It's a real unique barrel configuration that comes apart with a
> quarter turn. I recall when I first got it about 25 yrs ago, the
> company said I'd hafta send it in cuz a new barrel needed to be hand
> fitted. I didn't worry about it too much, then, as I had a couple
> other shotguns. Now I'm down to this one and I called Ithaca about
> getting a new barrel w/ interchangable chokes. They said they don't
> even make barrels for guns this old ('50s), anymore, and if I wanted a
> new barrel I'd hafta buy a whole new gun. I no longer hunt upland
> game and suck at trap, so probably won't bother.
>
> nb

Too bad you don't have a close friend with a machine shop. Since
shotgun barrels are not rifled, it should be possible to make one with
the right set up.

BTW, the only way to get better at Trap is practice. <g> Cheek the stock
tightly and follow the clay with your eyes. Track the gun the same way.
I can generally get 2 out of 5 now, but I've only shot trap maybe a
dozen times so I'm still learning.

The hardest part was learning to NOT try to aim the traditional way!
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On 25/04/2011 6:51 PM, Omelet wrote:

> Too bad you don't have a close friend with a machine shop. Since
> shotgun barrels are not rifled, it should be possible to make one with
> the right set up.
>
> BTW, the only way to get better at Trap is practice.<g> Cheek the stock
> tightly and follow the clay with your eyes. Track the gun the same way.
> I can generally get 2 out of 5 now, but I've only shot trap maybe a
> dozen times so I'm still learning.
>
> The hardest part was learning to NOT try to aim the traditional way!

The traditional way? Shooting at a moving target traditionally involve
leading the target. The amount of lead depend on the distance, speed and
the angle of the target's direction in relation to the shooter. You
have a split second to to figure it out.

I had a funny experience at a (glass) turkey shoot at a friend's place.
I confess to being a rotten shot at still targets with sights, but I was
a natural with shotgun and moving targets. There was a guy with a very
expensive over and under with ventilated rib, lots of fancy engraving
and fancy stock. He had paid about $5,000 for the gun, and this was more
than 25 years ago. My gun was an East Germany made double barrel that I
paid $135 for.

He loaded his own shells. According to him, that was the only way to
ensure reliability. I had a couple boxes of cheap store brand shells.
He said that my gun was a piece of crap and my shells were crap and I
would be lucky to hit the target.

He did not buy my philosophy..... you need a shotgun that fits, so that
when you pick it up you are looking right down the barrel, use the right
choke and the proper shot size for the job. If you pull the trigger and
they go bang, that's all that really matters.

I walked away with the glass turkey.He came in 5th, and everyone else
you had heard his bragging was laughing at him.

In article <TGotp.59712$[email protected] >,
Dave Smith <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 25/04/2011 6:51 PM, Omelet wrote:
>
> > Too bad you don't have a close friend with a machine shop. Since
> > shotgun barrels are not rifled, it should be possible to make one with
> > the right set up.
> >
> > BTW, the only way to get better at Trap is practice.<g> Cheek the stock
> > tightly and follow the clay with your eyes. Track the gun the same way.
> > I can generally get 2 out of 5 now, but I've only shot trap maybe a
> > dozen times so I'm still learning.
> >
> > The hardest part was learning to NOT try to aim the traditional way!
>
> The traditional way? Shooting at a moving target traditionally involve
> leading the target. The amount of lead depend on the distance, speed and
> the angle of the target's direction in relation to the shooter. You
> have a split second to to figure it out.

Yes, but you don't have to lead it by much, and set your choke at
modified. Right about the middle. My 12 gauge has a "dial-a-choke" and
I love it. :-)

When I remember to more or less instinct shoot, I hit more clays. I had
a good day the first time I used the 12 instead of my 20 which has a
full fixed choke and hit 6 out of 6! <g> Never have been able to repeat
that but it sure felt good.

My 12 gauge has no site. Not even a front bead.

>
> I had a funny experience at a (glass) turkey shoot at a friend's place.
> I confess to being a rotten shot at still targets with sights, but I was
> a natural with shotgun and moving targets. There was a guy with a very
> expensive over and under with ventilated rib, lots of fancy engraving
> and fancy stock. He had paid about $5,000 for the gun, and this was more
> than 25 years ago. My gun was an East Germany made double barrel that I
> paid $135 for.
>
> He loaded his own shells. According to him, that was the only way to
> ensure reliability. I had a couple boxes of cheap store brand shells.
> He said that my gun was a piece of crap and my shells were crap and I
> would be lucky to hit the target.

<snicker> It's not the gun that makes the difference. The Benelli
owners learned that and bitched and moaned about being beat by an
Ithaca. The guys around here teaching me shotgun are a bunch of rednecks
that have been shooting shotgun since they were young enough to handle
one. Cheap $100.00 Mossberg pumps, they nearly always hit 5 out of 5.
It's stunning.

No room for snobs when it comes to trap and skeet!
>
> He did not buy my philosophy..... you need a shotgun that fits, so that
> when you pick it up you are looking right down the barrel, use the right
> choke and the proper shot size for the job. If you pull the trigger and
> they go bang, that's all that really matters.
>
> I walked away with the glass turkey.He came in 5th, and everyone else
> you had heard his bragging was laughing at him.

He deserved it. <g>
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On 2011-04-26, Omelet <[email protected]> wrote:

><snicker> It's not the gun that makes the difference. The Benelli
> owners learned that and bitched and moaned about being beat by an
> Ithaca.

I love Ithicas. Also, being an old coot, I adore side-by-side's
(S/S). Ithica used to sell S/Ss made by SKB of Japan. Absolutely
beautiful guns. I'd give give a rusty molar cap for one. SKB, which
has been making great shotguns for over 150 yrs also sold under the
Weatherby name. If I ever buy another shotgun, it'll be an SKB, which
BTW still makes an O/U for under $2K.

I'd tell yer dad to hang onto the semi-auto Ithica. Appears they no
longer make them.

nb

Dave Smith wrote:
> Omelet wrote:
>
>> Too bad you don't have a close friend with a machine shop. Since
>> shotgun barrels are not rifled, it should be possible to make one with
>> the right set up.

My 16th birthday present was a shot gun with two barrels. One was a
modified choke. The other was a rifled barrel. At the time deer
hunting in my geography was restricted to shot gun not rifle because of
the population density. In the years since hunting has dropped enough
in popularity they now allow rifles just to keep the deer population in
check.

>> BTW, the only way to get better at Trap is practice.<g>
>> The hardest part was learning to NOT try to aim the traditional way!
>
> The traditional way?

I learned to shot a rifle before I learned to shot a shot gun. So to me
the traditional way is to aim carefully as if I'm about to shot a
rabbit or like I have the rifled barrel in place and I'm about to shot a
deer.

> I had a funny experience at a (glass) turkey shoot at a friend's place.
> I confess to being a rotten shot at still targets with sights, but I was
> a natural with shotgun and moving targets.

My skills run the opposite.

In article <[email protected]>,
notbob <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 2011-04-26, Omelet <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> ><snicker> It's not the gun that makes the difference. The Benelli
> > owners learned that and bitched and moaned about being beat by an
> > Ithaca.
>
> I love Ithicas. Also, being an old coot, I adore side-by-side's
> (S/S). Ithica used to sell S/Ss made by SKB of Japan. Absolutely
> beautiful guns. I'd give give a rusty molar cap for one. SKB, which
> has been making great shotguns for over 150 yrs also sold under the
> Weatherby name. If I ever buy another shotgun, it'll be an SKB, which
> BTW still makes an O/U for under $2K.
>
> I'd tell yer dad to hang onto the semi-auto Ithica. Appears they no
> longer make them.
>
> nb

No surprise. Some of dad's rifles are pretty old. Like his 25-35 that
you can barely find ammo for.

They also no longer make my Win. model 88 .308. I had to e-mail the
company to get into their archives to get a manual for it. None was
available by PDF like many manuals are. <g> It's a lever action.

He has an ancient double barrel shotgun that breaks open at the breech.
It's so old, modern ammo. would likely destroy it. It's just a wall
hanger now and I don't know much about it other than it belonged to his
grandfather (my great grandfather).

I'm happy with both my mossy's. Both have wood stocks and blued
barrels. I dislike some of the newer cheap ones that have plastic
stocks and black painted barrels. I've seen plenty of rusty ones that
are not very old!
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