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  1. #1
    Christopher M. Guest

    Default Beans & Toast vs. Cincinnati 5-Way Chili

    I think Beans & toast is similar to Cincinnati 5-way chili.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cincinnati_chili

    Both dishes contain beans and a sauce.

    Both contain starches. (Cincinnati 5-way chili contains pasta. Beans & toast
    contains toast [buttered])

    Both may be topped with cheese.

    But Is there meat in Beans & toast? Do people use beans containing bacon or
    pork?

    And are there onions in the beans?

    Cincinnati chili is a unique kind of chili, containing spices like cinnamon,
    cloves, allspice, or cocoa (chocolate).


    W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)



  2. #2
    Bryan Guest

    Default Re: Beans & Toast vs. Cincinnati 5-Way Chili

    On Jan 21, 12:01*pm, "Christopher M." <nospam_flibb...@floo.com>
    wrote:
    >
    >
    > Cincinnati chili is a unique kind of chili, containing spices like cinnamon,
    > cloves, allspice, or cocoa (chocolate).


    Cincinnati chili is ****, just like St. Louis style pizza, with
    process cheese like you'd find on a McDonald's cheeseburger..
    >
    > W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)


    --Bryan

  3. #3
    l, not -l Guest

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    On 21-Jan-2012, Sqwertz <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 13:01:00 -0500, Christopher M. wrote:
    >
    > > I think Beans & toast is similar to Cincinnati 5-way chili.

    >
    > Troll playing dumb.
    >
    > -sw


    How can you tell he's playing? 8-)
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  4. #4
    George L Guest

    Default Re: Beans & Toast vs. Cincinnati 5-Way Chili

    On Saturday, January 21, 2012 12:01:00 PM UTC-6, Christopher M. wrote:

    >
    > Cincinnati chili is a unique kind of chili, containing spices like cinnamon,
    > cloves, allspice, or cocoa (chocolate).
    >
    >
    > W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)



    Cincinnati Chili is garbage. It isn't real chili, it has the consistancy of a thin sauce, is barely tolerable on a hot dog and totally intolerable when served on spaghetti. Then, to make it worse, they will add some slightly warmed kidney beans.

    The last time I tried it was at a Steak and Shake. Incredibly bad chili and burger.

    George L


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    James Silverton Guest

    Default Re: Beans & Toast vs. Cincinnati 5-Way Chili

    On 1/22/2012 8:04 AM, George L wrote:
    > On Saturday, January 21, 2012 12:01:00 PM UTC-6, Christopher M. wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> Cincinnati chili is a unique kind of chili, containing spices like cinnamon,
    >> cloves, allspice, or cocoa (chocolate).
    >>
    >>
    >> W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

    >
    >
    > Cincinnati Chili is garbage. It isn't real chili, it has the consistancy of a thin sauce, is barely tolerable on a hot dog and totally intolerable when served on spaghetti. Then, to make it worse, they will add some slightly warmed kidney beans.
    >
    > The last time I tried it was at a Steak and Shake. Incredibly bad chili and burger.
    >
    > George L
    >

    Is this an attempt to begin a flame war? The Cincinnati chili that I
    make has the same consistency as regular chili and the amounts of not
    Tex-Mex spices is adjustable. I regard Cincinnati mainly as being
    different in that it is served on spaghetti with various toppings like
    beans (not in the chili), chopped onion and *Cheddar* cheese.

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    Jim Silverton

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  6. #6
    George L Guest

    Default Re: Beans & Toast vs. Cincinnati 5-Way Chili

    On Sunday, January 22, 2012 7:16:41 AM UTC-6, James Silverton wrote:
    > On 1/22/2012 8:04 AM, George L wrote:
    > > On Saturday, January 21, 2012 12:01:00 PM UTC-6, Christopher M. wrote:
    > >
    > >>
    > >> Cincinnati chili is a unique kind of chili, containing spices like cinnamon,
    > >> cloves, allspice, or cocoa (chocolate).
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

    > >
    > >
    > > Cincinnati Chili is garbage. It isn't real chili, it has the consistancy of a thin sauce, is barely tolerable on a hot dog and totally intolerable when served on spaghetti. Then, to make it worse, they will add some slightly warmed kidney beans.
    > >
    > > The last time I tried it was at a Steak and Shake. Incredibly bad chili and burger.
    > >
    > > George L
    > >

    > Is this an attempt to begin a flame war? The Cincinnati chili that I
    > make has the same consistency as regular chili and the amounts of not
    > Tex-Mex spices is adjustable. I regard Cincinnati mainly as being
    > different in that it is served on spaghetti with various toppings like
    > beans (not in the chili), chopped onion and *Cheddar* cheese.
    >


    It is only a flame if you take my opinion of Cincinnati "chili" as a personal attack on you.

    I've had it a few times and I think it stinks. If you happen to like ground beeg simmered in catsup, cinnamon and all spice and served on spaghetti and covered in warm kidney beans straight out of the can... great! Order yourself a big bowl. Sit at the empty seat at the counter... the one I won'tbe sitting in.

    George L




  7. #7
    Bryan Guest

    Default Re: Beans & Toast vs. Cincinnati 5-Way Chili

    On Jan 22, 7:16*am, James Silverton <jim.silver...@verizon.net> wrote:
    > On 1/22/2012 8:04 AM, George L wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > On Saturday, January 21, 2012 12:01:00 PM UTC-6, Christopher M. wrote:

    >
    > >> Cincinnati chili is a unique kind of chili, containing spices like cinnamon,
    > >> cloves, allspice, or cocoa (chocolate).

    >
    > >> W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

    >
    > > Cincinnati Chili is garbage. *It isn't real chili, it has the consistancy of a thin sauce, is barely tolerable on a hot dog and totally intolerable when served on spaghetti. *Then, to make it worse, they will add someslightly warmed kidney beans.

    >
    > > The last time I tried it was at a Steak and Shake. *Incredibly bad chili and burger.

    >
    > > George L

    >
    > Is this an attempt to begin a flame war? The Cincinnati chili that I
    > make has the same consistency as regular chili and the amounts of not
    > Tex-Mex spices is adjustable. I regard Cincinnati *mainly as being
    > different in that it is served on spaghetti with various toppings like
    > beans (not in the chili), chopped onion and *Cheddar* cheese.


    It has cinnamon in it, and chocolate, and sometimes cloves. Ick.
    >
    > --
    > Jim Silverton


    --Bryan

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    James Silverton Guest

    Default Re: Beans & Toast vs. Cincinnati 5-Way Chili

    On 1/22/2012 8:55 AM, Bryan wrote:
    > On Jan 22, 7:16 am, James Silverton<jim.silver...@verizon.net> wrote:


    > It has cinnamon in it, and chocolate, and sometimes cloves. Ick.


    Can I respectfully point out that Cincinnati chili employs cocoa (not
    chocolate), which occurs in a lot of real Mexican recipes, notably the
    famous Molé sauce.


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    Jim Silverton

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  9. #9
    sf Guest

    Default Re: Beans & Toast vs. Cincinnati 5-Way Chili

    On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 05:04:56 -0800 (PST), George L
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    > The last time I tried it was at a Steak and Shake. Incredibly bad chili and burger.


    Not defending Cincinnati chili (because it sounds vile), but I
    wouldn't use a fast food as an example of why I didn't like something
    unless it's the type of restaurant where it's traditionally found. If
    it is, then no wonder it's so bad.

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    sf Guest

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    On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 08:16:41 -0500, James Silverton
    <jim.silverto[email protected]> wrote:

    > Is this an attempt to begin a flame war? The Cincinnati chili that I
    > make has the same consistency as regular chili and the amounts of not
    > Tex-Mex spices is adjustable. I regard Cincinnati mainly as being
    > different in that it is served on spaghetti with various toppings like
    > beans (not in the chili), chopped onion and *Cheddar* cheese.


    What spices do you use?

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    sf Guest

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    On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 05:53:40 -0800 (PST), George L
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    > I've had it a few times and I think it stinks. If you happen to like ground beeg simmered in catsup, cinnamon and all spice and served on spaghetti and covered in warm kidney beans straight out of the can... great! Order yourself a big bowl. Sit at the empty seat at the counter... the one I won't be sitting in.


    I thought Cincinnati chili was made with chicken, not beef.

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    sf Guest

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    On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 05:55:49 -0800 (PST), Bryan
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    > It has cinnamon in it, and chocolate, and sometimes cloves. Ick.


    Sounds like mole.

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    Feranija Guest

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    On 22/01/12 10:42, sf wrote:
    > On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 05:53:40 -0800 (PST), George L
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> I've had it a few times and I think it stinks. If you happen to like ground beeg simmered in catsup, cinnamon and all spice and served on spaghetti and covered in warm kidney beans straight out of the can... great! Order yourself a big bowl. Sit at the empty seat at the counter... the one I won't be sitting in.

    >
    > I thought Cincinnati chili was made with chicken, not beef.
    >



    1. http://www.cincinnativiews.net/Chrom...me-Chili-6.jpg
    2. http://www.cincinnativiews.net/Chrom...rds/chili2.jpg
    3. http://www.cincinnativiews.net/Chrom...-Chili%203.jpg
    4. http://www.cincinnativiews.net/Chrom...me-Chili-4.jpg

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    dsi1 Guest

    Default Re: Beans & Toast vs. Cincinnati 5-Way Chili

    On Jan 22, 3:04*am, George L <geo...@cruisemaster.com> wrote:
    > On Saturday, January 21, 2012 12:01:00 PM UTC-6, Christopher M. wrote:
    >
    > > Cincinnati chili is a unique kind of chili, containing spices like cinnamon,
    > > cloves, allspice, or cocoa (chocolate).

    >
    > > W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

    >
    > Cincinnati Chili is garbage. *It isn't real chili, it has the consistancy of a thin sauce, is barely tolerable on a hot dog and totally intolerable when served on spaghetti. *Then, to make it worse, they will add some slightly warmed kidney beans.
    >
    > The last time I tried it was at a Steak and Shake. *Incredibly bad chili and burger.
    >
    > George L


    Chili varies considerably by region. Everybody only wants chili of the
    kind that they grew up with. The chili of Hawaii is a Cincinnati style
    served over rice. My guess is that Texans would find it
    incomprehensible, at least that's the impression I got when touristas
    ordered a bowl at a hotel restaurant.

    They dressed like Roy and Dale and were sitting in the booth across
    from us and you'd think the waitress had bought them a bat boiled in
    coconut milk. It was complete confusion. Roy couldn't understand the
    dish and the server didn't understand what the problem was. Looks like
    the situation has not changed much since the 70s. Folks just don't
    understand but one kind of chili.

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    sf Guest

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    On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 11:24:06 -0800, Feranija
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On 22/01/12 10:42, sf wrote:
    > > On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 05:53:40 -0800 (PST), George L
    > > <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > >> I've had it a few times and I think it stinks. If you happen to like ground beeg simmered in catsup, cinnamon and all spice and served on spaghetti and covered in warm kidney beans straight out of the can... great! Order yourself a big bowl. Sit at the empty seat at the counter... the one I won't be sitting in.

    > >
    > > I thought Cincinnati chili was made with chicken, not beef.
    > >

    >
    >
    > 1. http://www.cincinnativiews.net/Chrom...me-Chili-6.jpg
    > 2. http://www.cincinnativiews.net/Chrom...rds/chili2.jpg
    > 3. http://www.cincinnativiews.net/Chrom...-Chili%203.jpg
    > 4. http://www.cincinnativiews.net/Chrom...me-Chili-4.jpg



    Thanks, Feranija. I've only heard about it here, so I wonder how I
    got the idea it was chicken?

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    sf Guest

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    On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 11:47:28 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >
    > Chili varies considerably by region. Everybody only wants chili of the
    > kind that they grew up with. The chili of Hawaii is a Cincinnati style
    > served over rice. My guess is that Texans would find it
    > incomprehensible, at least that's the impression I got when touristas
    > ordered a bowl at a hotel restaurant.
    >
    > They dressed like Roy and Dale and were sitting in the booth across
    > from us and you'd think the waitress had bought them a bat boiled in
    > coconut milk. It was complete confusion. Roy couldn't understand the
    > dish and the server didn't understand what the problem was. Looks like
    > the situation has not changed much since the 70s. Folks just don't
    > understand but one kind of chili.


    From the looks of the recipes Feranija posted, I'd guess that most of
    the US serves a version of Cincinnati style. My mother made something
    like it, but used commercial chili powder. We didn't eat it over
    anything, but we crumbled saltine crackers into it.

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    Christopher M. Guest

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    dsi1 wrote:
    > On Jan 22, 3:04 am, George L <geo...@cruisemaster.com> wrote:
    >> On Saturday, January 21, 2012 12:01:00 PM UTC-6, Christopher M.
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>> Cincinnati chili is a unique kind of chili, containing spices like
    >>> cinnamon, cloves, allspice, or cocoa (chocolate).

    >>
    >>> W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

    >>
    >> Cincinnati Chili is garbage. It isn't real chili, it has the
    >> consistancy of a thin sauce, is barely tolerable on a hot dog and
    >> totally intolerable when served on spaghetti. Then, to make it
    >> worse, they will add some slightly warmed kidney beans.
    >>
    >> The last time I tried it was at a Steak and Shake. Incredibly bad
    >> chili and burger.
    >>
    >> George L

    >
    > Chili varies considerably by region. Everybody only wants chili of the
    > kind that they grew up with. The chili of Hawaii is a Cincinnati style
    > served over rice. My guess is that Texans would find it
    > incomprehensible, at least that's the impression I got when touristas
    > ordered a bowl at a hotel restaurant.


    Texans seem to be very particular about their chili.

    I love sweet chili, but I'd think twice before offering it to a Texan.


    W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)



  18. #18
    dsi1 Guest

    Default Re: Beans & Toast vs. Cincinnati 5-Way Chili

    On 1/22/2012 3:42 PM, Christopher M. wrote:
    > dsi1 wrote:
    >> Chili varies considerably by region. Everybody only wants chili of the
    >> kind that they grew up with. The chili of Hawaii is a Cincinnati style
    >> served over rice. My guess is that Texans would find it
    >> incomprehensible, at least that's the impression I got when touristas
    >> ordered a bowl at a hotel restaurant.

    >
    > Texans seem to be very particular about their chili.
    >
    > I love sweet chili, but I'd think twice before offering it to a Texan.


    The Texans can go practically anywhere in the world and they'll be
    dissatisfied with the local chili. A most unhappy fate!

    >
    >
    > W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)
    >
    >



  19. #19
    George L Guest

    Default Re: Beans & Toast vs. Cincinnati 5-Way Chili

    On Sunday, January 22, 2012 7:42:00 PM UTC-6, Christopher M. wrote:

    >
    > Texans seem to be very particular about their chili.
    >
    > I love sweet chili, but I'd think twice before offering it to a Texan.


    I lived north of the Mason Dixon line for 56 years before moving south. I've had all different kinds of chili in all different parts of the US and Mexico... and in my opinion, Cincinnati "chili" is at the bottom of my list.

    And a FWIW... I haven't liked all the chili I've had in Texas and you are right, Texans can get a bit obsessive about what makes good chili. I'm really not that fussy.

    Geroge L

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    Brooklyn1 Guest

    Default Re: Beans & Toast vs. Cincinnati 5-Way Chili

    On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 21:07:00 -1000, dsi1 <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On 1/22/2012 3:42 PM, Christopher M. wrote:
    >> dsi1 wrote:
    >>> Chili varies considerably by region. Everybody only wants chili of the
    >>> kind that they grew up with. The chili of Hawaii is a Cincinnati style
    >>> served over rice. My guess is that Texans would find it
    >>> incomprehensible, at least that's the impression I got when touristas
    >>> ordered a bowl at a hotel restaurant.

    >>
    >> Texans seem to be very particular about their chili.


    Yeah, it has to be fiery hot enough that you can't taste it.


    >> I love sweet chili, but I'd think twice before offering it to a Texan.

    >
    >The Texans can go practically anywhere in the world and they'll be
    >dissatisfied with the local chili. A most unhappy fate!
    >
    >>
    >>
    >> W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)
    >>
    >>


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