Thread: BBQ Sauce Recipe

In article <[email protected]>, Paul the Q noob <[email protected]> wrote:
>I am currently searchin' the 'net for some homemade bbq sauce recipes,
>and found some that use catsup. I don't wanna use anything like catsup
>because I want to do this all from scratch. (especially to cut out all
>that high fructose corn syrup crap for my 1 year old)
>
>In place of catsup, do I use tomato paste or dilute the tomato paste
>with something like water?
>
>In the meantime, if anyone has any delicious yet simple bbq sauce
>recipes I'd appreciate it. I'll follow up with any I find for
>thoughts.

Here's one from an Oz site, listed here without prejudice. :-)
(And without any useful comment from me for that matter!)

<http://www.bestrecipes.com.au/recipe/Barbeque-Sauce-L518.html>

The instant coffee is certainly from left field! YMMV.
Also, I perhaps you could use less sugar if you're so inclined?

Cheers, Phred.

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[email protected]LID

In article <[email protected]>, Paul the Q noob <[email protected]> wrote:
>I am currently searchin' the 'net for some homemade bbq sauce recipes,
>and found some that use catsup. I don't wanna use anything like catsup
>because I want to do this all from scratch. (especially to cut out all
>that high fructose corn syrup crap for my 1 year old)
>
>In place of catsup, do I use tomato paste or dilute the tomato paste
>with something like water?
>
>In the meantime, if anyone has any delicious yet simple bbq sauce
>recipes I'd appreciate it. I'll follow up with any I find for
>thoughts.

Here's one from an Oz site, listed here without prejudice. :-)
(And without any useful comment from me for that matter!)

<http://www.bestrecipes.com.au/recipe/Barbeque-Sauce-L518.html>

The instant coffee is certainly from left field! YMMV.
Also, I perhaps you could use less sugar if you're so inclined?

Cheers, Phred.

--
[email protected]LID

On Jun 9, 10:18*am, ppnerkDELETET...@yahoo.com (Phred) wrote:
> In article <05490ccd-3f71-4a33-a6ae-d0f1f076e...@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>, Paul the Q noob <meat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >I am currently searchin' the 'net for some homemade bbq sauce recipes,
> >and found some that use catsup. I don't wanna use anything like catsup
> >because I want to do this all from scratch. (especially to cut out all
> >that high fructose corn syrup crap for my 1 year old)
>
> >In place of catsup, do I use tomato paste or dilute the tomato paste
> >with something like water?
>
> >In the meantime, if anyone has any delicious yet simple bbq sauce
> >recipes I'd appreciate it. I'll follow up with any I find for
> >thoughts.
>
> Here's one from an Oz site, listed here without prejudice. :-)
> (And without any useful comment from me for that matter!)
>
> <http://www.bestrecipes.com.au/recipe/Barbeque-Sauce-L518.html>
>
> The instant coffee is certainly from left field! *YMMV.
> Also, I perhaps you could use less sugar if you're so inclined?
>
> Cheers, Phred.
>
> --
> ppnerkDEL...@THISyahoo.com.INVALID

Thanks.

Maybe my question should be: how do you go about making BBQ sauce from
scratch?

I'd like to make a big ol' batch, so I can keep it in the back of the
fridge for weeks.

I'm figuring you need to start off with tomato paste, or stewed
tomatoes, or something along those lines, right?

Then from there you add things like molasses (or white/brown sugar),
worcestershire sauce, onion, maybe peppers, maybe garlic.

I know I don't want to make pasta sauce so I have to be careful there
isn't too much tomato.

I'm just looking for a place to start, rather than an exact recipe.
That way I can experiment.

Thanks again

On Jun 9, 10:18*am, ppnerkDELETET...@yahoo.com (Phred) wrote:
> In article <05490ccd-3f71-4a33-a6ae-d0f1f076e...@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>, Paul the Q noob <meat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >I am currently searchin' the 'net for some homemade bbq sauce recipes,
> >and found some that use catsup. I don't wanna use anything like catsup
> >because I want to do this all from scratch. (especially to cut out all
> >that high fructose corn syrup crap for my 1 year old)
>
> >In place of catsup, do I use tomato paste or dilute the tomato paste
> >with something like water?
>
> >In the meantime, if anyone has any delicious yet simple bbq sauce
> >recipes I'd appreciate it. I'll follow up with any I find for
> >thoughts.
>
> Here's one from an Oz site, listed here without prejudice. :-)
> (And without any useful comment from me for that matter!)
>
> <http://www.bestrecipes.com.au/recipe/Barbeque-Sauce-L518.html>
>
> The instant coffee is certainly from left field! *YMMV.
> Also, I perhaps you could use less sugar if you're so inclined?
>
> Cheers, Phred.
>
> --
> ppnerkDEL...@THISyahoo.com.INVALID

Thanks.

Maybe my question should be: how do you go about making BBQ sauce from
scratch?

I'd like to make a big ol' batch, so I can keep it in the back of the
fridge for weeks.

I'm figuring you need to start off with tomato paste, or stewed
tomatoes, or something along those lines, right?

Then from there you add things like molasses (or white/brown sugar),
worcestershire sauce, onion, maybe peppers, maybe garlic.

I know I don't want to make pasta sauce so I have to be careful there
isn't too much tomato.

I'm just looking for a place to start, rather than an exact recipe.
That way I can experiment.

Thanks again

On Jun 9, 11:45*am, Paul McNoob <meat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 9, 10:18*am, ppnerkDELETET...@yahoo.com (Phred) wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article <05490ccd-3f71-4a33-a6ae-d0f1f076e...@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>, Paul the Q noob <meat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >I am currently searchin' the 'net for some homemade bbq sauce recipes,
> > >and found some that use catsup. I don't wanna use anything like catsup
> > >because I want to do this all from scratch. (especially to cut out all
> > >that high fructose corn syrup crap for my 1 year old)
>
> > >In place of catsup, do I use tomato paste or dilute the tomato paste
> > >with something like water?
>
> > >In the meantime, if anyone has any delicious yet simple bbq sauce
> > >recipes I'd appreciate it. I'll follow up with any I find for
> > >thoughts.
>
> > Here's one from an Oz site, listed here without prejudice. :-)
> > (And without any useful comment from me for that matter!)
>
> > <http://www.bestrecipes.com.au/recipe/Barbeque-Sauce-L518.html>
>
> > The instant coffee is certainly from left field! *YMMV.
> > Also, I perhaps you could use less sugar if you're so inclined?
>
> > Cheers, Phred.
>
> > --
> > ppnerkDEL...@THISyahoo.com.INVALID
>
> Thanks.
>
> Maybe my question should be: how do you go about making BBQ sauce from
> scratch?
>
> I'd like to make a big ol' batch, so I can keep it in the back of the
> fridge for weeks.
>
> I'm figuring you need to start off with tomato paste, or stewed
> tomatoes, or something along those lines, right?
>
> Then from there you add things like molasses (or white/brown sugar),
> worcestershire sauce, onion, maybe peppers, maybe garlic.
>
> I know I don't want to make pasta sauce so I have to be careful there
> isn't too much tomato.
>
> I'm just looking for a place to start, rather than an exact recipe.
> That way I can experiment.
>
> Thanks again- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Ah, I think I found what I'm looking for:
http://www.ehow.com/how_2001125_sauc...paign=yssp_art

Does this sound like the basic way to start making BBQ sauce?

On Jun 9, 11:45*am, Paul McNoob <meat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 9, 10:18*am, ppnerkDELETET...@yahoo.com (Phred) wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article <05490ccd-3f71-4a33-a6ae-d0f1f076e...@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>, Paul the Q noob <meat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >I am currently searchin' the 'net for some homemade bbq sauce recipes,
> > >and found some that use catsup. I don't wanna use anything like catsup
> > >because I want to do this all from scratch. (especially to cut out all
> > >that high fructose corn syrup crap for my 1 year old)
>
> > >In place of catsup, do I use tomato paste or dilute the tomato paste
> > >with something like water?
>
> > >In the meantime, if anyone has any delicious yet simple bbq sauce
> > >recipes I'd appreciate it. I'll follow up with any I find for
> > >thoughts.
>
> > Here's one from an Oz site, listed here without prejudice. :-)
> > (And without any useful comment from me for that matter!)
>
> > <http://www.bestrecipes.com.au/recipe/Barbeque-Sauce-L518.html>
>
> > The instant coffee is certainly from left field! *YMMV.
> > Also, I perhaps you could use less sugar if you're so inclined?
>
> > Cheers, Phred.
>
> > --
> > ppnerkDEL...@THISyahoo.com.INVALID
>
> Thanks.
>
> Maybe my question should be: how do you go about making BBQ sauce from
> scratch?
>
> I'd like to make a big ol' batch, so I can keep it in the back of the
> fridge for weeks.
>
> I'm figuring you need to start off with tomato paste, or stewed
> tomatoes, or something along those lines, right?
>
> Then from there you add things like molasses (or white/brown sugar),
> worcestershire sauce, onion, maybe peppers, maybe garlic.
>
> I know I don't want to make pasta sauce so I have to be careful there
> isn't too much tomato.
>
> I'm just looking for a place to start, rather than an exact recipe.
> That way I can experiment.
>
> Thanks again- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Ah, I think I found what I'm looking for:
http://www.ehow.com/how_2001125_sauc...paign=yssp_art

Does this sound like the basic way to start making BBQ sauce?

Paul McNoob <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Jun 9, 10:18*am, ppnerkDELETET...@yahoo.com (Phred) wrote:

>>Paul the Q noob <meat...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> I am currently searchin' the 'net for some homemade bbq sauce recipes,
and found some that use catsup. I don't wanna use anything like catsup
because I want to do this all from scratch. (especially to cut out all
that high fructose corn syrup crap for my 1 year old)

>>> In place of catsup, do I use tomato paste or dilute the tomato paste
>>> with something like water?

>>> In the meantime, if anyone has any delicious yet simple bbq sauce
>>> recipes I'd appreciate it. I'll follow up with any I find for
>>> thoughts.

>> Here's one from an Oz site, listed here without prejudice. :-)
>> (And without any useful comment from me for that matter!)

>> <http://www.bestrecipes.com.au/recipe/Barbeque-Sauce-L518.html>

>> The instant coffee is certainly from left field! *YMMV.
>> Also, I perhaps you could use less sugar if you're so inclined?

>Thanks.

>Maybe my question should be: how do you go about making BBQ sauce from
>scratch?

>I'd like to make a big ol' batch, so I can keep it in the back of the
>fridge for weeks.

I'm not sure it's practical to keep it quite that long.

If your recipe includes catsup, it's not too difficult to
find a HFCS-free catsup. Otherwise, a mixture of tomato paste,
water, and either blueberry or apricot jam works. (Making
sure the latter are also HFCS-free too.) You can try leaving
out the tomato ingredient entirely but my experience is it
wants some tomato in it, even if the effect you're going for
is a non-tomato-y sauce.

I always put brewed coffee, a little liquid smoke, vinegar, and
cayenne in. Some may prefer to leave out any of these.


Steve

Paul McNoob <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Jun 9, 10:18*am, ppnerkDELETET...@yahoo.com (Phred) wrote:

>>Paul the Q noob <meat...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> I am currently searchin' the 'net for some homemade bbq sauce recipes,
and found some that use catsup. I don't wanna use anything like catsup
because I want to do this all from scratch. (especially to cut out all
that high fructose corn syrup crap for my 1 year old)

>>> In place of catsup, do I use tomato paste or dilute the tomato paste
>>> with something like water?

>>> In the meantime, if anyone has any delicious yet simple bbq sauce
>>> recipes I'd appreciate it. I'll follow up with any I find for
>>> thoughts.

>> Here's one from an Oz site, listed here without prejudice. :-)
>> (And without any useful comment from me for that matter!)

>> <http://www.bestrecipes.com.au/recipe/Barbeque-Sauce-L518.html>

>> The instant coffee is certainly from left field! *YMMV.
>> Also, I perhaps you could use less sugar if you're so inclined?

>Thanks.

>Maybe my question should be: how do you go about making BBQ sauce from
>scratch?

>I'd like to make a big ol' batch, so I can keep it in the back of the
>fridge for weeks.

I'm not sure it's practical to keep it quite that long.

If your recipe includes catsup, it's not too difficult to
find a HFCS-free catsup. Otherwise, a mixture of tomato paste,
water, and either blueberry or apricot jam works. (Making
sure the latter are also HFCS-free too.) You can try leaving
out the tomato ingredient entirely but my experience is it
wants some tomato in it, even if the effect you're going for
is a non-tomato-y sauce.

I always put brewed coffee, a little liquid smoke, vinegar, and
cayenne in. Some may prefer to leave out any of these.


Steve

After serious thinking Paul the Q noob wrote :
> I am currently searchin' the 'net for some homemade bbq sauce recipes,
> and found some that use catsup. I don't wanna use anything like catsup
> because I want to do this all from scratch. (especially to cut out all
> that high fructose corn syrup crap for my 1 year old)
>
> In place of catsup, do I use tomato paste or dilute the tomato paste
> with something like water?
>
> In the meantime, if anyone has any delicious yet simple bbq sauce
> recipes I'd appreciate it. I'll follow up with any I find for
> thoughts.
>
> Thanks,
> Paul

You might look for one with raisins and tomatoes in place of catsup.
You still need to add some vinegar in my opinion.

After serious thinking Paul the Q noob wrote :
> I am currently searchin' the 'net for some homemade bbq sauce recipes,
> and found some that use catsup. I don't wanna use anything like catsup
> because I want to do this all from scratch. (especially to cut out all
> that high fructose corn syrup crap for my 1 year old)
>
> In place of catsup, do I use tomato paste or dilute the tomato paste
> with something like water?
>
> In the meantime, if anyone has any delicious yet simple bbq sauce
> recipes I'd appreciate it. I'll follow up with any I find for
> thoughts.
>
> Thanks,
> Paul

You might look for one with raisins and tomatoes in place of catsup.
You still need to add some vinegar in my opinion.

Phred wrote:

> In article
<[email protected]>, Paul
the Q noob <[email protected]> wrote:
> >I am currently searchin' the 'net for some homemade bbq sauce recipes,
> >and found some that use catsup. I don't wanna use anything like catsup
> >because I want to do this all from scratch. (especially to cut out all
> >that high fructose corn syrup crap for my 1 year old)
> >
> >In place of catsup, do I use tomato paste or dilute the tomato paste
> >with something like water?
> >
> >In the meantime, if anyone has any delicious yet simple bbq sauce
> >recipes I'd appreciate it. I'll follow up with any I find for
> >thoughts.
>
> Here's one from an Oz site, listed here without prejudice. :-)
> (And without any useful comment from me for that matter!)
>
> <http://www.bestrecipes.com.au/recipe/Barbeque-Sauce-L518.html>
>
> The instant coffee is certainly from left field! YMMV.
> Also, I perhaps you could use less sugar if you're so inclined?
>

I use Coca - Cola in my BBQ sauce. I reduce it first, this can be done
easily in the microwave, or on the stove...do *not* use Diet Coke for this!
Dr. Pepper also works well...

--
Best
Greg

Phred wrote:

> In article
<[email protected]>, Paul
the Q noob <[email protected]> wrote:
> >I am currently searchin' the 'net for some homemade bbq sauce recipes,
> >and found some that use catsup. I don't wanna use anything like catsup
> >because I want to do this all from scratch. (especially to cut out all
> >that high fructose corn syrup crap for my 1 year old)
> >
> >In place of catsup, do I use tomato paste or dilute the tomato paste
> >with something like water?
> >
> >In the meantime, if anyone has any delicious yet simple bbq sauce
> >recipes I'd appreciate it. I'll follow up with any I find for
> >thoughts.
>
> Here's one from an Oz site, listed here without prejudice. :-)
> (And without any useful comment from me for that matter!)
>
> <http://www.bestrecipes.com.au/recipe/Barbeque-Sauce-L518.html>
>
> The instant coffee is certainly from left field! YMMV.
> Also, I perhaps you could use less sugar if you're so inclined?
>

I use Coca - Cola in my BBQ sauce. I reduce it first, this can be done
easily in the microwave, or on the stove...do *not* use Diet Coke for this!
Dr. Pepper also works well...

--
Best
Greg

On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 06:10:00 -0700 (PDT), Paul the Q noob
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I am currently searchin' the 'net for some homemade bbq sauce recipes,
>and found some that use catsup. I don't wanna use anything like catsup
>because I want to do this all from scratch. (especially to cut out all
>that high fructose corn syrup crap for my 1 year old)
>
>In place of catsup, do I use tomato paste or dilute the tomato paste
>with something like water?
>
>In the meantime, if anyone has any delicious yet simple bbq sauce
>recipes I'd appreciate it. I'll follow up with any I find for
>thoughts.

Tomato sauce, brown sugar, vinegar, salt & pepper. Commonly added are
molasses, red pepper/cayenne, garlic, sauted onions. Optionally,
Worcestrshire sauce, mustard, cumin, Tabasco, or any thing else that
falls in.

On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 06:10:00 -0700 (PDT), Paul the Q noob
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I am currently searchin' the 'net for some homemade bbq sauce recipes,
>and found some that use catsup. I don't wanna use anything like catsup
>because I want to do this all from scratch. (especially to cut out all
>that high fructose corn syrup crap for my 1 year old)
>
>In place of catsup, do I use tomato paste or dilute the tomato paste
>with something like water?
>
>In the meantime, if anyone has any delicious yet simple bbq sauce
>recipes I'd appreciate it. I'll follow up with any I find for
>thoughts.

Tomato sauce, brown sugar, vinegar, salt & pepper. Commonly added are
molasses, red pepper/cayenne, garlic, sauted onions. Optionally,
Worcestrshire sauce, mustard, cumin, Tabasco, or any thing else that
falls in.

On Jun 9, 9:10 am, Paul the Q noob <meat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am currently searchin' the 'net for some homemade bbq sauce recipes,
> and found some that use catsup. I don't wanna use anything like catsup
> because I want to do this all from scratch. (especially to cut out all
> that high fructose corn syrup crap for my 1 year old)
>
If you want to make your bbq sauce from scratch, you must learn to
make your own vinegar, tomato sauce, mustard, sugar. Grow your own
ingredients etc. I don't think you're up for that so re phrase your
question. Maybe you want to make your sauce with available
ingredients other than high fructose corn syrup or ketchup? Actually
with your food IQ, I recommend you purchase bottled sauce. Forget
about your baby, and feed it baby food. For grown ups, bbq sauce is
usually made from unhealthy ****.

> In place of catsup, do I use tomato paste or dilute the tomato paste
> with something like water?
>
> In the meantime, if anyone has any delicious yet simple bbq sauce
> recipes I'd appreciate it. I'll follow up with any I find for
> thoughts.
>
> Thanks,
> Paul

On Jun 9, 9:10 am, Paul the Q noob <meat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am currently searchin' the 'net for some homemade bbq sauce recipes,
> and found some that use catsup. I don't wanna use anything like catsup
> because I want to do this all from scratch. (especially to cut out all
> that high fructose corn syrup crap for my 1 year old)
>
If you want to make your bbq sauce from scratch, you must learn to
make your own vinegar, tomato sauce, mustard, sugar. Grow your own
ingredients etc. I don't think you're up for that so re phrase your
question. Maybe you want to make your sauce with available
ingredients other than high fructose corn syrup or ketchup? Actually
with your food IQ, I recommend you purchase bottled sauce. Forget
about your baby, and feed it baby food. For grown ups, bbq sauce is
usually made from unhealthy ****.

> In place of catsup, do I use tomato paste or dilute the tomato paste
> with something like water?
>
> In the meantime, if anyone has any delicious yet simple bbq sauce
> recipes I'd appreciate it. I'll follow up with any I find for
> thoughts.
>
> Thanks,
> Paul

On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:18:21 GMT, [email protected] (Phred)
wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>, Paul the Q noob <[email protected]> wrote:
>>I am currently searchin' the 'net for some homemade bbq sauce recipes,
>>and found some that use catsup. I don't wanna use anything like catsup
>>because I want to do this all from scratch. (especially to cut out all
>>that high fructose corn syrup crap for my 1 year old)
>>
>>In place of catsup, do I use tomato paste or dilute the tomato paste
>>with something like water?
>>
>>In the meantime, if anyone has any delicious yet simple bbq sauce
>>recipes I'd appreciate it. I'll follow up with any I find for
>>thoughts.
>
>Here's one from an Oz site, listed here without prejudice. :-)
>(And without any useful comment from me for that matter!)
>
><http://www.bestrecipes.com.au/recipe/Barbeque-Sauce-L518.html>
>
>The instant coffee is certainly from left field! YMMV.
>Also, I perhaps you could use less sugar if you're so inclined?
>
>Cheers, Phred.

coffee can be quite good in this sort of thing. i might use the
freeze-dried stuff instead of instant though. i used to keep a jar of
it for just this purpose.

your pal,
blake

On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:18:21 GMT, [email protected] (Phred)
wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>, Paul the Q noob <[email protected]> wrote:
>>I am currently searchin' the 'net for some homemade bbq sauce recipes,
>>and found some that use catsup. I don't wanna use anything like catsup
>>because I want to do this all from scratch. (especially to cut out all
>>that high fructose corn syrup crap for my 1 year old)
>>
>>In place of catsup, do I use tomato paste or dilute the tomato paste
>>with something like water?
>>
>>In the meantime, if anyone has any delicious yet simple bbq sauce
>>recipes I'd appreciate it. I'll follow up with any I find for
>>thoughts.
>
>Here's one from an Oz site, listed here without prejudice. :-)
>(And without any useful comment from me for that matter!)
>
><http://www.bestrecipes.com.au/recipe/Barbeque-Sauce-L518.html>
>
>The instant coffee is certainly from left field! YMMV.
>Also, I perhaps you could use less sugar if you're so inclined?
>
>Cheers, Phred.

coffee can be quite good in this sort of thing. i might use the
freeze-dried stuff instead of instant though. i used to keep a jar of
it for just this purpose.

your pal,
blake

On Jun 9, 11:51*am, spop...@speedymail.org (Steve Pope) wrote:
> Paul McNoob *<meat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Jun 9, 10:18*am, ppnerkDELETET...@yahoo.com (Phred) wrote:
> >>Paul the Q noob <meat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> I am currently searchin' the 'net for some homemade bbq sauce recipes,
>
> and found some that use catsup. I don't wanna use anything like catsup
> because I want to do this all from scratch. (especially to cut out all
> that high fructose corn syrup crap for my 1 year old)
>
> >>> In place of catsup, do I use tomato paste or dilute the tomato paste
> >>> with something like water?
> >>> In the meantime, if anyone has any delicious yet simple bbq sauce
> >>> recipes I'd appreciate it. I'll follow up with any I find for
> >>> thoughts.
> >> Here's one from an Oz site, listed here without prejudice. :-)
> >> (And without any useful comment from me for that matter!)
> >> <http://www.bestrecipes.com.au/recipe/Barbeque-Sauce-L518.html>
> >> The instant coffee is certainly from left field! *YMMV.
> >> Also, I perhaps you could use less sugar if you're so inclined?
> >Thanks.
> >Maybe my question should be: how do you go about making BBQ sauce from
> >scratch?
> >I'd like to make a big ol' batch, so I can keep it in the back of the
> >fridge for weeks.
>
> I'm not sure it's practical to keep it quite that long.
>
> If your recipe includes catsup, it's not too difficult to
> find a HFCS-free catsup. *Otherwise, a mixture of tomato paste,
> water, and either blueberry or apricot jam works. *(Making
> sure the latter are also HFCS-free too.) *You can try leaving
> out the tomato ingredient entirely but my experience is it
> wants some tomato in it, even if the effect you're going for
> is a non-tomato-y sauce.
>
> I always put brewed coffee, a little liquid smoke, vinegar, and
> cayenne in. *Some may prefer to leave out any of these.
>
> Steve

Ah, true.. HFCS-free catsup!

Ah, vinegar. Forgot about that part!