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  1. #1
    Lou Decruss Guest

    Default Ammonia Burgers


    This is really sick. Grind your own meat!

    <http://www.americas-watchdog.com/restaurants-defend-ammonia-treated-beef/#more-559>

  2. #2
    jay Guest

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    Lou Decruss wrote:
    > This is really sick. Grind your own meat!
    >
    > <http://www.americas-watchdog.com/restaurants-defend-ammonia-treated-beef/#more-559>


    NYTimes story..

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/31/us/31meat.html

    jay

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    Curt Nelson Guest

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    "Lou Decruss" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    >
    > This is really sick. Grind your own meat!
    >
    > <http://www.americas-watchdog.com/restaurants-defend-ammonia-treated-beef/#more-559>



    I don't actually remember the last time I purchased pre-ground beef. Maybe
    1999? Pretty sure I bought some at Fred Meyer and thought it was disgusting,
    vowing to never buy industrial hamburger again. For whatever reason, the
    smell of the grease kind of nauseated me.

    On the odd occasion when I need it I have my meat guy grind it for me. When
    it cooks it smells like good beef should.

    Hasta,
    Curt Nelson



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    Pete C. Guest

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    Lou Decruss wrote:
    >
    > This is really sick. Grind your own meat!
    >
    > <http://www.americas-watchdog.com/restaurants-defend-ammonia-treated-beef/#more-559>


    If we could just irradiate meat which has long been proven safe, we
    wouldn't have places resorting to this kind of crap. Of course the
    anti-nuke loons hear "irradiate" and start whining, without the
    intelligence to even understand that there are different types of
    radiation.

    Oddly enough I ground some beef fresh and made burgers last night.
    Grinder to super hot charcoal grill in just a minute or two, wonderful
    stuff.

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    Stu Guest

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    On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 06:22:37 -0600, Lou Decruss <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    >This is really sick. Grind your own meat!
    >
    ><http://www.americas-watchdog.com/restaurants-defend-ammonia-treated-beef/#more-559>


    and these places wonder why more people are now eating at home.

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    zxcvbob Guest

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    Lou Decruss wrote:
    > This is really sick. Grind your own meat!
    >
    > <http://www.americas-watchdog.com/restaurants-defend-ammonia-treated-beef/#more-559>



    I was gonna say something crude about the "Special Sauce", but I'll
    leave it to your imagination ;-)

    Bob

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    --Bryan Guest

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    On Jan 6, 10:03*am, zxcvbob <zxcv...@charter.net> wrote:
    > Lou Decruss wrote:
    > > This is really sick. *Grind your own meat!

    >
    > > <http://www.americas-watchdog.com/restaurants-defend-ammonia-treated-b....>

    >
    > I was gonna say something crude about the "Special Sauce", but I'll
    > leave it to your imagination ;-)


    Well for sure don't use the word, "jizzy." Some folks get awfully
    offended.
    >
    > Bob


    --Bryan

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    zxcvbob Guest

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    --Bryan wrote:
    > On Jan 6, 10:03 am, zxcvbob <zxcv...@charter.net> wrote:
    >> Lou Decruss wrote:
    >>> This is really sick. Grind your own meat!
    >>> <http://www.americas-watchdog.com/restaurants-defend-ammonia-treated-b...>

    >> I was gonna say something crude about the "Special Sauce", but I'll
    >> leave it to your imagination ;-)

    >
    > Well for sure don't use the word, "jizzy." Some folks get awfully
    > offended.
    >
    > --Bryan



    That wasn't quite the direction I was going, but thanks.

    Bob

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    blake murphy Guest

    Default Re: Ammonia Burgers

    On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 06:22:37 -0600, Lou Decruss wrote:

    > This is really sick. Grind your own meat!
    >
    > <http://www.americas-watchdog.com/restaurants-defend-ammonia-treated-beef/#more-559>


    frankly, i'm surprised macdougal's messes with the stuff. i mean, the food
    they serve may not taste all that good, but it's usually 'wholesome' (with
    the possible exception of the 'milk' shakes). i guess '100 percent pure
    beef' covers a multitude of sins.

    your pal,
    blake

  10. #10
    jay Guest

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    blake murphy wrote:

    >i mean, the food
    > they serve may not taste all that good, but it's usually 'wholesome'


    > your pal,
    > blake


    AHahahahaha... Proving you have no clue about food/eating/cooking etc.
    PLONKed right into the dumbass folder with peterbreath louse lucas.








  11. #11
    Zeppo Guest

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    "blake murphy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 06:22:37 -0600, Lou Decruss wrote:
    >
    >> This is really sick. Grind your own meat!
    >>
    >> <http://www.americas-watchdog.com/restaurants-defend-ammonia-treated-beef/#more-559>

    >
    > frankly, i'm surprised macdougal's messes with the stuff. i mean, the
    > food
    > they serve may not taste all that good, but it's usually 'wholesome'
    > (with
    > the possible exception of the 'milk' shakes). i guess '100 percent pure
    > beef' covers a multitude of sins.
    >
    > your pal,
    > blake


    It's the USDA's definition of 100% pure beef that is at fault. They use our
    tax dollars to protect agrobiz and the meat industry, not us.

    Coincidently, I watched 'Food, Inc' the other night which featured an
    interview with Eldon Roth, the owner of BPI. He was touting how safe the
    process was and bragging he had licked the whole e-coli 'thing'.

    Good for a laugh as I had read the NY Times article a few days before that.

    Jon


  12. #12
    blake murphy Guest

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    On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 07:08:59 -0600, jay wrote:

    > Lou Decruss wrote:
    >> This is really sick. Grind your own meat!
    >>
    >> <http://www.americas-watchdog.com/restaurants-defend-ammonia-treated-beef/#more-559>

    >
    > NYTimes story..
    >
    > http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/31/us/31meat.html
    >
    > jay


    from the story:

    "In 2004, lunch officials increased the amount of Beef Products meat
    allowed in its hamburgers to 15 percent, from 10 percent, to increase
    savings. In a taste test at the time, some school children favored burgers
    with higher amounts of processed beef."

    tee-hee.

    "In early 2003, officials in Georgia returned nearly 7,000 pounds to Beef
    Products after cooks who were making meatloaf for state prisoners detected
    a ´very strong odor of ammoniaˇ in 60-pound blocks of the trimmings, state
    records show."

    ´It was frozen, but you could still smell ammonia,ˇ said Dr. Charles Tant,
    a Georgia agriculture department official. ´I˙ve never seen anything like
    it.ˇ

    now, *that's* unusual. i wonder why they just didn't switch to nutraloaf,
    since all prisoners are inhuman swine anyway.

    <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutraloaf>

    your pal,
    joe a.

  13. #13
    Zeppo Guest

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    "Lou Decruss" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    >
    > This is really sick. Grind your own meat!
    >
    > <http://www.americas-watchdog.com/restaurants-defend-ammonia-treated-beef/#more-559>


    I've been thinking about getting a grinder for burgers. We've been using
    either Costco ground beef (which is tested a little more than most, but
    still could be trouble) and ground Bison. I'm not sure if Bison is as
    problematic as ground beef, only because it's done in much smaller
    quantities. Since it's not an ingredient in fast food, it may not have the
    'mystery' origin issues. Course, I'm just guessing here.

    Will my food processor grind meat acceptably?

    Jon


  14. #14
    gloria.p Guest

    Default Re: Ammonia Burgers

    Lou Decruss wrote:
    > This is really sick. Grind your own meat!
    >
    > <http://www.americas-watchdog.com/restaurants-defend-ammonia-treated-beef/#more-559>


    I'd feel more confident about the information if the website
    wasn't published by an ambulance-chasing legal group like the
    ones who advertise unceasingly on TV.

    gloria p

  15. #15
    Lou Decruss Guest

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    On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 11:10:18 -0700, "gloria.p" <gpuester@comcast.ne[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >Lou Decruss wrote:
    >> This is really sick. Grind your own meat!
    >>
    >> <http://www.americas-watchdog.com/restaurants-defend-ammonia-treated-beef/#more-559>

    >
    >I'd feel more confident about the information if the website
    >wasn't published by an ambulance-chasing legal group like the
    >ones who advertise unceasingly on TV.


    Jay posted a link to a NY times article. It was also on our local
    (Chicago) TV station this morning. Google it if you want. It's
    legit.

    Lou


  16. #16
    Dan Abel Guest

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    In article
    <[email protected]>,
    --Bryan <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On Jan 6, 10:03*am, zxcvbob <zxcv...@charter.net> wrote:
    > > Lou Decruss wrote:
    > > > This is really sick. *Grind your own meat!

    > >
    > > > <http://www.americas-watchdog.com/restaurants-defend-ammonia-treated-b...>

    > >
    > > I was gonna say something crude about the "Special Sauce", but I'll
    > > leave it to your imagination ;-)

    >
    > Well for sure don't use the word, "jizzy." Some folks get awfully
    > offended.


    I don't know why.

    :-)

    It's actually not in my dictionary, but jizz is:

    jizz |jiz|


    noun Brit., informal
    (among birdwatchers and naturalists) the characteristic impression given
    by a particular species of animal or plant.

    ORIGIN 1920s: of unknown origin.

    --
    Dan Abel
    Petaluma, California USA
    [email protected]

  17. #17
    Sqwertz Guest

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    On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 12:19:18 -0500, blake murphy wrote:

    > In a taste test at the time, SOME school children favored burgers
    > with higher amounts of processed beef."


    I'm pretty good at spotting misleading statements and this one is as
    sleazy as it gets. They're trying to imply that kids prefer the
    ammonia tainted beef, but the truth is probably something like:

    "5 out of 6,000 children said they favored the 'new, ammonia-tainted
    beef' over the traditional beef. The other 5,995 refused to finish
    their burgers."

    They're statement would still be true because "SOME" children had no
    sense of smell or taste.

    -sw

  18. #18
    Sqwertz Guest

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    On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 09:03:11 -0600, Pete C. wrote:

    > Lou Decruss wrote:
    >>
    >> This is really sick. Grind your own meat!
    >>
    >> <http://www.americas-watchdog.com/restaurants-defend-ammonia-treated-beef/#more-559>

    >
    > If we could just irradiate meat which has long been proven safe, we
    > wouldn't have places resorting to this kind of crap. Of course the
    > anti-nuke loons hear "irradiate" and start whining, without the
    > intelligence to even understand that there are different types of
    > radiation.


    It's not so much the anti-nuke folks is that irradiated beef simply
    tastes different. It had a metallic taste. If it was anti-nuke
    freaks, then that any good marketing technique could overcome that.
    Just wait for the next huge meat recall and/or related sicknesses.
    Or better yet, invent one just for the purposes of promoting
    irradiated beef.

    Just like some say the government caused 9/11 to their advantage.

    -sw

  19. #19
    Pete C. Guest

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    Sqwertz wrote:
    >
    > On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 09:03:11 -0600, Pete C. wrote:
    >
    > > Lou Decruss wrote:
    > >>
    > >> This is really sick. Grind your own meat!
    > >>
    > >> <http://www.americas-watchdog.com/restaurants-defend-ammonia-treated-beef/#more-559>

    > >
    > > If we could just irradiate meat which has long been proven safe, we
    > > wouldn't have places resorting to this kind of crap. Of course the
    > > anti-nuke loons hear "irradiate" and start whining, without the
    > > intelligence to even understand that there are different types of
    > > radiation.

    >
    > It's not so much the anti-nuke folks is that irradiated beef simply
    > tastes different. It had a metallic taste. If it was anti-nuke
    > freaks, then that any good marketing technique could overcome that.
    > Just wait for the next huge meat recall and/or related sicknesses.
    > Or better yet, invent one just for the purposes of promoting
    > irradiated beef.
    >
    > Just like some say the government caused 9/11 to their advantage.
    >
    > -sw


    Since you get a metallic taste from fully oxidized pre ground Hamburg
    anyway...

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    Pete C. Guest

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    Zeppo wrote:
    >
    > "Lou Decruss" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]..
    > >
    > > This is really sick. Grind your own meat!
    > >
    > > <http://www.americas-watchdog.com/restaurants-defend-ammonia-treated-beef/#more-559>

    >
    > I've been thinking about getting a grinder for burgers. We've been using
    > either Costco ground beef (which is tested a little more than most, but
    > still could be trouble) and ground Bison. I'm not sure if Bison is as
    > problematic as ground beef, only because it's done in much smaller
    > quantities. Since it's not an ingredient in fast food, it may not have the
    > 'mystery' origin issues. Course, I'm just guessing here.
    >
    > Will my food processor grind meat acceptably?
    >
    > Jon


    A food processor is not a grinder. With a food processor the best you
    could do is try for emulsified meat like a hot dog. Processed less you'd
    have some sort of chopped meat which might do ok for meatloaf with
    binders, but won't handle like actual ground meat to form burgers and
    the like. If you have a Kitchenaid mixer, the grinder attachment for it
    works well despite the claims of some here who have never actually used
    it. It is smaller than most standalone grinders, but is a good size for
    meals for up to 4 or 5 people or so before it becomes tedious to feed.

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