Thread: America's Text Kitchen recipes

sf wrote:
>
> I am watching a show with pizza bianca and wanted to look at their
> recipe... I have to register. OK, I don't mind registering but they
> want to sell me their magazine. Is registration good only for one
> session or am I good to go for any other time I want to visit the
> site?
>
> TIA

As I understand it, the magazine subscription and the "ATK online
access" are two different critters and two separate fees/costs! Ask me
how I know, but that was a couple or more years ago when I inquired. I
like the magazine a lot and have had a subscription to it for some years
now. I've never registered at their website, so I cannot compare the
two.

Sky, who likes to watch ATK on PBS

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"sf" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]..
|
| I am watching a show with pizza bianca and wanted to look at their
| recipe... I have to register. OK, I don't mind registering but they
| want to sell me their magazine. Is registration good only for one
| session or am I good to go for any other time I want to visit the
| site?
|
| TIA

They will harass you unto death, and then harass your offspring
and elders. They have no mercy, decency is unknown to them
and your mailboxes, electronic and physical, will be overflowing
with their paperbound and virtual products. If ever you purchase
something from them it will renew incessantly and automatically,
blissfully ignoring any and all pleadings and entreaties to stop
charging onto the numbers you once gave them.

Yeah, I've had a bit of trouble with them but others seem to do ok,
I'd be a little wary of giving them charge cards or heaven forbid
bank account numbers. But a lot of good information, yes indeed.

pavane

On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:46:31 -0700, sf wrote:

> I am watching a show with pizza bianca and wanted to look at their
> recipe... I have to register. OK, I don't mind registering but they
> want to sell me their magazine. Is registration good only for one
> session or am I good to go for any other time I want to visit the
> site?

Have you ever seen a site that requires you to "register" every time
you visit the site?

Sheesh. And DUH!

-sw

On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 22:37:15 -0400, pavane wrote:

> They will harass you unto death, and then harass your offspring
> and elders. They have no mercy, decency is unknown to them
> and your mailboxes, electronic and physical, will be overflowing
> with their paperbound and virtual products.

I can second that. They are even worse than the Williams Sonoma
family of companies.

Use a throwaway email address, and fake physical address (for your
trail issue).

-sw

On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 21:52:07 -0500, Sqwertz <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 22:37:15 -0400, pavane wrote:
>
>> They will harass you unto death, and then harass your offspring
>> and elders. They have no mercy, decency is unknown to them
>> and your mailboxes, electronic and physical, will be overflowing
>> with their paperbound and virtual products.
>
>I can second that. They are even worse than the Williams Sonoma
>family of companies.
>
>Use a throwaway email address, and fake physical address (for your
>trail issue).
>
I knew a guy once who ordered magazines using the name Puget Sound.
--

modom

On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 22:37:15 -0400, "pavane"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Yeah, I've had a bit of trouble with them but others seem to do ok,
>I'd be a little wary of giving them charge cards or heaven forbid
>bank account numbers. But a lot of good information, yes indeed.

I only want to read their online recipes, but I'm not so desperate
that I'll give them money to do it. That's why I was confused about
that "free" registration. It sounded like a "free" download... yeah,
you can download it for free, but if you want to use it - you have to
pay. :\

On Sep 8, 9:37*pm, "pavane" <pav...@somewhere.something.com> wrote:
> "sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote in messagenews:6n1ea5tonksil6ontmjpulgml6fi5tt9qf@4ax .com...
>
> |
> | I am watching a show with pizza bianca and wanted to look at their
> | recipe... I have to register. *OK, I don't mind registering but they
> | want to sell me their magazine. *Is registration good only for one
> | session or am I good to go for any other time I want to visit the
> | site?
> |
> | TIA
>
> They will harass you unto death, and then harass your offspring
> and elders. *They have no mercy, decency is unknown to them
> and your mailboxes, electronic and physical, will be overflowing
> with their paperbound and virtual products. *If ever you purchase
> something from them it will renew incessantly and automatically,
> blissfully ignoring any and all pleadings and entreaties to stop
> charging onto the numbers you once gave them.
>
> Yeah, I've had a bit of trouble with them but others seem to do ok,
> I'd be a little wary of giving them charge cards or heaven forbid
> bank account numbers. *But a lot of good information, yes indeed.

Yes, they never stop calling and sending junk in the mail! It never
stops!

On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 20:03:29 -0700, sf wrote:

> I only want to read their online recipes, but I'm not so desperate
> that I'll give them money to do it. That's why I was confused about
> that "free" registration. It sounded like a "free" download... yeah,
> you can download it for free, but if you want to use it - you have to
> pay. :\

When you register for the site, you only get access to a subset of
the recipes from the show. You only get complete access with a paid
subscription.

Your sought-after recipe may not even be in the "freely available
with registration" section - which you won't find out until after
you sign up. That's how they suckered me into registering a couple
years ago - never did get access to the recipe I was inquiring
about.

You can almost always find those recipes replicated elsewhere in the
Internet.

Like here:
http://community.livejournal.com/cooking/6868406.html

And Here:
http://www.recipezaar.com/Pizza-Bianca-318680

And probably here:
.....

-sw

-sw

Sqwertz wrote:
>
> On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 22:37:15 -0400, pavane wrote:
>
> > They will harass you unto death, and then harass your offspring
> > and elders. They have no mercy, decency is unknown to them
> > and your mailboxes, electronic and physical, will be overflowing
> > with their paperbound and virtual products.
>
> I can second that. They are even worse than the Williams Sonoma
> family of companies.
>
> Use a throwaway email address, and fake physical address (for your
> trail issue).
>
> -sw

Add to that one time use, value limited credit card numbers. They can
try to renew as much as they want, but the number will be no good and
they will be SOL.

"sf" ha scritto nel messaggio
> I am watching a show with pizza bianca and wanted to look at their>
> recipe... I have to register. OK, I don't mind registering but they> want
> to sell me their magazine. Is registration good only for one> session or
> am I good to go for any other time I want to visit the> site?

In my experience if you once visit them, you get emails forever that purport
to keep you up to date on the site, but are actually selling you hundreds of
things, a few at a time. You also get folksy emails from Cristopher Kimball
that sound like he's telling you what the kids and dogs are up to but are
also selling you stuff. I finally had to declare them spam.

On Wed, 9 Sep 2009 08:01:10 +0200, "Giusi" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"sf" ha scritto nel messaggio
>> I am watching a show with pizza bianca and wanted to look at their>
>> recipe... I have to register. OK, I don't mind registering but they> want
>> to sell me their magazine. Is registration good only for one> session or
>> am I good to go for any other time I want to visit the> site?
>
>In my experience if you once visit them, you get emails forever that purport
>to keep you up to date on the site, but are actually selling you hundreds of
>things, a few at a time. You also get folksy emails from Cristopher Kimball
>that sound like he's telling you what the kids and dogs are up to but are
>also selling you stuff. I finally had to declare them spam.
>
Why didn't you just unsubscribe?

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

"sf" ha scritto nel messaggio
> Why didn't you just unsubscribe?

I did. You can't. There is always yet another way they come at you.

Giusi said...

>
> "sf" ha scritto nel messaggio
>> Why didn't you just unsubscribe?
>
> I did. You can't. There is always yet another way they come at you.


I visited their website to watch a few promo'd videos. Never did subscribe,
luckily.

The website got pretty belligerent about signing up.

I'd heard of their spamming practices from others here at rfc for a long
time, so I shut off all java, cookies, one-clicks, etc. before visiting.
Never got any spam from them!

That old saying rings so true, "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of
cure."

Best,

Andy

pavane wrote:

> Yeah, I've had a bit of trouble with them but others seem to do ok,
> I'd be a little wary of giving them charge cards or heaven forbid
> bank account numbers. But a lot of good information, yes indeed.

I haven't had a problem with them, I get emails with recipes and ratings,
and letters from Christopher Kimball, and ads for their books, but it's not
a problem, a lot of places are much worse. All that stuff is maybe a
couple times a month. No problem. I could probably unsubscribe from
the recipes and the letters if I was so inclined.

nancy

pavane wrote:

> Yeah, I've had a bit of trouble with them but others seem to do ok,
> I'd be a little wary of giving them charge cards or heaven forbid
> bank account numbers. But a lot of good information, yes indeed.

I haven't had a problem with them, I get emails with recipes and ratings,
and letters from Christopher Kimball, and ads for their books, but it's not
a problem, a lot of places are much worse. All that stuff is maybe a
couple times a month. No problem. I could probably unsubscribe from
the recipes and the letters if I was so inclined.

nancy

Nancy Young wrote:
> pavane wrote:
>
>> Yeah, I've had a bit of trouble with them but others seem to do ok,
>> I'd be a little wary of giving them charge cards or heaven forbid
>> bank account numbers. But a lot of good information, yes indeed.
>
> I haven't had a problem with them, I get emails with recipes and ratings,
> and letters from Christopher Kimball, and ads for their books, but it's not
> a problem, a lot of places are much worse. All that stuff is maybe a
> couple times a month. No problem. I could probably unsubscribe from
> the recipes and the letters if I was so inclined.
> nancy


yeah, I get an email a day I think from Kimball. It doesn't bother me
too much. 9 out of 10 are "buy this" emails. The odd one is their Tips
and Tricks email, which I sorta like.

Tracy

Andy wrote:
> Giusi said...
>
>> "sf" ha scritto nel messaggio
>>> Why didn't you just unsubscribe?
>> I did. You can't. There is always yet another way they come at you.
>
>
> I visited their website to watch a few promo'd videos. Never did subscribe,
> luckily.
>
> The website got pretty belligerent about signing up.
>
> I'd heard of their spamming practices from others here at rfc for a long
> time, so I shut off all java, cookies, one-clicks, etc. before visiting.
> Never got any spam from them!
>
> That old saying rings so true, "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of
> cure."
>
> Best,
>
> Andy

Not to defend them but Cooks Illustrated is ad free - so they have to
make money somehow. Right?

Tracy

On Sep 9, 4:28*am, "Nancy Young" <rjynly...@comcast.net> wrote:
> pavane wrote:
> > Yeah, I've had a bit of trouble with them but others seem to do ok,
> > I'd be a little wary of giving them charge cards or heaven forbid
> > bank account numbers. *But a lot of good information, yes indeed.
>
> I haven't had a problem with them, I get emails with recipes and ratings,
> and letters from Christopher Kimball, and ads for their books, but it's not
> a problem, a lot of places are much worse. *All that stuff is maybe a
> couple times a month. *No problem. *I could probably unsubscribe from
> the recipes and the letters if I was so inclined. *
>
> nancy

>
>
Same for me as for Nancy. I *might* get one e-mail a week from them.
Usually something on there I want to read or watch. It is a bummer
though to click on a link and I have to be a paid member to view that
site or video. No big deal I just back out, delete the e-mail and go
on my way. My mailbox is never overflowing with mail from them.

On 2009-09-09, Giusi <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> "sf" ha scritto nel messaggio
>> Why didn't you just unsubscribe?
>
> I did. You can't. There is always yet another way they come at you.

I've said it before, I'll say it a again. Chris Kimbell is a
huckster. He's about as interested in cooking as I am macrame. He's
a journalist who wanted a publishing empire. He got it.
Unfortunately, he picked cooking as his means and you as his dupes.
Welcome to marketing 101.

nb