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  1. #1
    Stu Guest

    Default After all it is part of their income



    Employees in the hospitality industry who normally receive tips as
    part of their income are legally obligated to declare them on their
    tax return. After all it is part of their income.

    But here's a question to ponder.

    If that's the case then shouldn't people who give tips to waitstaff
    and cabbies be able to use these tips as a tax deduction?

  2. #2
    Chemo the Clown Guest

    Default Re: After all it is part of their income

    On Dec 12, 2:32*pm, Stu <i...@foodforu.ca> wrote:
    > Employees in the hospitality industry who normally receive tips as
    > part of their income are legally obligated to declare them on their
    > tax return. After all it is part of their income.
    >
    > But here's a question to ponder.
    >
    > If that's the case then shouldn't people who give tips to waitstaff
    > and cabbies be able to use these tips as a tax deduction?


    Post a recipe or have something to say about cooking!!!

    or

    go to a CPA!!

  3. #3
    Stu Guest

    Default Re: After all it is part of their income

    On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 14:39:56 -0800 (PST), Chemo the Clown <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    -->On Dec 12, 2:32*pm, Stu <i...@foodforu.ca> wrote:
    -->> Employees in the hospitality industry who normally receive tips as
    -->> part of their income are legally obligated to declare them on their
    -->> tax return. After all it is part of their income.
    -->>
    -->> But here's a question to ponder.
    -->>
    -->> If that's the case then shouldn't people who give tips to waitstaff
    -->> and cabbies be able to use these tips as a tax deduction?
    -->
    -->Post a recipe or have something to say about cooking!!!
    -->
    -->or
    -->
    -->go to a CPA!!
    bite me


    ---------- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: "Better Than Sex" Cake
    Categories: None
    Yield: 1 Servings

    1 Box German chocolate cake
    -mix
    7 oz Sweetened condensed milk
    1/2 Jar caramel sauce;,
    -(12-ounce jar)
    1 Container; (8 oz) non-dairy
    -whipped topping, thawed
    6 Heath candy bars; crushed,
    -(up to 8)

    Bake cake in 9 by 13-inch cake pan, as directed on box. Let it cool
    slightly and poke little holes in the top of the cake with a pencil.
    Dribble sweetened condensed milk and caramel sauce over cake. Let stand for
    over an hour until the cake has completely cooled. Frost with whipped
    topping and sprinkle crushed candy bars over that. Refrigerate.

  4. #4
    Chemo the Clown Guest

    Default Re: After all it is part of their income

    On Dec 12, 2:46*pm, Stu <i...@foodforu.ca> wrote:
    > On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 14:39:56 -0800 (PST), Chemo the Clown <an...@peak.org>
    > wrote:
    >
    > -->On Dec 12, 2:32 pm, Stu <i...@foodforu.ca> wrote:
    > -->> Employees in the hospitality industry who normally receive tips as
    > -->> part of their income are legally obligated to declare them on their
    > -->> tax return. After all it is part of their income.
    > -->>
    > -->> But here's a question to ponder.
    > -->>
    > -->> If that's the case then shouldn't people who give tips to waitstaff
    > -->> and cabbies be able to use these tips as a tax deduction?
    > -->
    > -->Post a recipe or have something to say about cooking!!!
    > -->
    > -->or
    > -->
    > -->go to a CPA!!
    > bite me
    >
    > ---------- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05
    >
    > * * * Title: "Better Than Sex" Cake
    > *Categories: None
    > * * * Yield: 1 Servings
    >
    > * * * 1 * *Box German chocolate cake
    > * * * * * *-mix
    > * * * 7 oz Sweetened condensed milk
    > * * 1/2 * *Jar caramel sauce;,
    > * * * * * *-(12-ounce jar)
    > * * * 1 * *Container; (8 oz) non-dairy
    > * * * * * *-whipped topping, thawed
    > * * * 6 * *Heath candy bars; crushed,
    > * * * * * *-(up to 8)
    >
    > * Bake cake in 9 by 13-inch cake pan, as directed on box. Let it cool
    > * slightly and poke little holes in the top of the cake with a pencil.
    > * Dribble sweetened condensed milk and caramel sauce over cake. Let stand for
    > * over an hour until the cake has completely cooled. Frost with whipped
    > * topping and sprinkle crushed candy bars over that. Refrigerate.


    That sounds just awful!

  5. #5
    Stu Guest

    Default Re: After all it is part of their income

    On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 14:47:49 -0800 (PST), Chemo the Clown <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    -->On Dec 12, 2:46*pm, Stu <i...@foodforu.ca> wrote:
    -->> On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 14:39:56 -0800 (PST), Chemo the Clown <an...@peak.org>
    -->> wrote:
    -->>
    -->> -->On Dec 12, 2:32 pm, Stu <i...@foodforu.ca> wrote:
    -->> -->> Employees in the hospitality industry who normally receive tips as
    -->> -->> part of their income are legally obligated to declare them on their
    -->> -->> tax return. After all it is part of their income.
    -->> -->>
    -->> -->> But here's a question to ponder.
    -->> -->>
    -->> -->> If that's the case then shouldn't people who give tips to waitstaff
    -->> -->> and cabbies be able to use these tips as a tax deduction?
    -->> -->
    -->> -->Post a recipe or have something to say about cooking!!!
    -->> -->
    -->> -->or
    -->> -->
    -->> -->go to a CPA!!
    -->> bite me
    -->>
    -->> ---------- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05
    -->>
    -->> * * * Title: "Better Than Sex" Cake
    -->> *Categories: None
    -->> * * * Yield: 1 Servings
    -->>
    -->> * * * 1 * *Box German chocolate cake
    -->> * * * * * *-mix
    -->> * * * 7 oz Sweetened condensed milk
    -->> * * 1/2 * *Jar caramel sauce;,
    -->> * * * * * *-(12-ounce jar)
    -->> * * * 1 * *Container; (8 oz) non-dairy
    -->> * * * * * *-whipped topping, thawed
    -->> * * * 6 * *Heath candy bars; crushed,
    -->> * * * * * *-(up to 8)
    -->>
    -->> * Bake cake in 9 by 13-inch cake pan, as directed on box. Let it cool
    -->> * slightly and poke little holes in the top of the cake with a pencil.
    -->> * Dribble sweetened condensed milk and caramel sauce over cake. Let stand
    for
    -->> * over an hour until the cake has completely cooled. Frost with whipped
    -->> * topping and sprinkle crushed candy bars over that. Refrigerate.
    -->
    -->That sounds just awful!

    you said

  6. #6
    Stu Guest

    Default Re: After all it is part of their income

    On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:30:08 -0600, Stu <[email protected]> wrote:

    -->On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 14:47:49 -0800 (PST), Chemo the Clown <[email protected]>
    -->wrote:
    -->
    -->-->On Dec 12, 2:46*pm, Stu <i...@foodforu.ca> wrote:
    -->-->> On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 14:39:56 -0800 (PST), Chemo the Clown
    <an...@peak.org>
    -->-->> wrote:
    -->-->>
    -->-->> -->On Dec 12, 2:32 pm, Stu <i...@foodforu.ca> wrote:
    -->-->> -->> Employees in the hospitality industry who normally receive tips as
    -->-->> -->> part of their income are legally obligated to declare them on
    their
    -->-->> -->> tax return. After all it is part of their income.
    -->-->> -->>
    -->-->> -->> But here's a question to ponder.
    -->-->> -->>
    -->-->> -->> If that's the case then shouldn't people who give tips to
    waitstaff
    -->-->> -->> and cabbies be able to use these tips as a tax deduction?
    -->-->> -->
    -->-->> -->Post a recipe or have something to say about cooking!!!
    -->-->> -->
    -->-->> -->or
    -->-->> -->
    -->-->> -->go to a CPA!!
    -->-->> bite me
    -->-->>



    Grace's Greek Salad

    This is a meal in itself! Created Sun, 23 Jul 2000

    10 ea boiling potatoes
    4 ea green onions
    cup thinly sliced green pepper
    Salt to taste
    2/3-cup mayonnaise
    1 ea head of lettuce
    4 cups potato salad (see direct.)
    5 ea tomatoes cut in wedges
    3 ea peeled cucumbers (in wedges)
    2 ea avocados, sliced
    1 lb feta cheese
    2 ea green peppers cut in rings
    16 oz can cooked beet slices
    1 ea large onion thinly sliced
    5 oz jar of Greek olives
    1 cup white vinegar
    cup vegetable oil (Reduce the oil in )
    cup olive oil (Reduce the oil in )
    1 ea oregano

    Potato Salad: * Boil potatoes in jackets about 30 min., until tender. Drain,
    cool, and peel. Slice into a bowl. Fold in green onions and green pepper.
    Sprinkle with salt. Add mayonnaise and blend well.

    Platter:
    Line a large platter with lettuce leaves; mound potato salad in center.
    Shred remaining lettuce over potato salad.
    Place tomatoes around outer edge of potato salad, placing a few on top. Place
    cucumbers between tomato wedges.
    Decorate outside edge of platter with avocado slices.
    Crumble sliced Feta cheese over vegetables.
    Arrange green pepper rings, beet slices, and onion slices on platter. Place
    olives on top.
    Sprinkle entire salad with vinegar.
    Blend oils and sprinkle on salad. Sprinkle with oregano. May be prepared ahead.
    * The first 5 ingredients are for the potato salad.

  7. #7
    [email protected] Guest

    Default Re: After all it is part of their income

    On Dec 12, 2:32*pm, Stu <i...@foodforu.ca> wrote:
    > Employees in the hospitality industry who normally receive tips as
    > part of their income are legally obligated to declare them on their
    > tax return. After all it is part of their income.
    >
    > But here's a question to ponder.
    >
    > If that's the case then shouldn't people who give tips to waitstaff
    > and cabbies be able to use these tips as a tax deduction?


    Why? It's a payment for services, not a donation to a registered
    charity. We don't get a tax deduction for the food purchase (here, we
    are charged tax).


  8. #8
    Dan Abel Guest

    Default Re: After all it is part of their income

    In article
    <[email protected]>,
    "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On Dec 12, 2:32*pm, Stu <i...@foodforu.ca> wrote:
    > > Employees in the hospitality industry who normally receive tips as
    > > part of their income are legally obligated to declare them on their
    > > tax return. After all it is part of their income.
    > >
    > > But here's a question to ponder.
    > >
    > > If that's the case then shouldn't people who give tips to waitstaff
    > > and cabbies be able to use these tips as a tax deduction?

    >
    > Why? It's a payment for services, not a donation to a registered
    > charity. We don't get a tax deduction for the food purchase (here, we
    > are charged tax).


    You can deduct business expenses, whatever they are. If you call a
    plumber to come fix the plumbing at your business, then you can deduct
    that as a business expense. If you call a plumber to come fix the
    plumbing at your house, that's not a business expense.

    --
    Dan Abel
    Petaluma, California USA
    [email protected]

  9. #9
    KevinS Guest

    Default Re: After all it is part of their income

    On Dec 12, 2:32�pm, Stu <i...@foodforu.ca> wrote:

    > But here's a question to ponder.


    > If that's the case then shouldn't people who give tips to waitstaff
    > and cabbies be able to use these tips as a tax deduction?


    In general, personal expenses are not deductible. The deduction
    for compensation expense is allowed when incurred in the conduct
    of a trade or business.


  10. #10
    sf Guest

    Default Re: After all it is part of their income

    On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:35:10 -0800, Dan Abel <[email protected]> wrote:

    >In article
    ><[email protected]>,
    > "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> On Dec 12, 2:32*pm, Stu <i...@foodforu.ca> wrote:
    >> > Employees in the hospitality industry who normally receive tips as
    >> > part of their income are legally obligated to declare them on their
    >> > tax return. After all it is part of their income.
    >> >
    >> > But here's a question to ponder.
    >> >
    >> > If that's the case then shouldn't people who give tips to waitstaff
    >> > and cabbies be able to use these tips as a tax deduction?

    >>
    >> Why? It's a payment for services, not a donation to a registered
    >> charity. We don't get a tax deduction for the food purchase (here, we
    >> are charged tax).

    >
    >You can deduct business expenses, whatever they are. If you call a
    >plumber to come fix the plumbing at your business, then you can deduct
    >that as a business expense. If you call a plumber to come fix the
    >plumbing at your house, that's not a business expense.


    But if he's worth top dollar and doesn't charge it, you may tip him.
    We (US type Americans) tip works of all sorts, not just restaurant
    workers.

    --
    I love cooking with wine.
    Sometimes I even put it in the food.

  11. #11
    Rob Guest

    Default Re: After all it is part of their income

    sf wrote:
    > On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:35:10 -0800, Dan Abel<[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >
    >> In article
    >> <[email protected]>,
    >> "[email protected]"<friesian@zoocrewphoto. com> wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>> On Dec 12, 2:32 pm, Stu<i...@foodforu.ca> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Employees in the hospitality industry who normally receive tips as
    >>>> part of their income are legally obligated to declare them on their
    >>>> tax return. After all it is part of their income.
    >>>>
    >>>> But here's a question to ponder.
    >>>>
    >>>> If that's the case then shouldn't people who give tips to waitstaff
    >>>> and cabbies be able to use these tips as a tax deduction?
    >>>>
    >>> Why? It's a payment for services, not a donation to a registered
    >>> charity. We don't get a tax deduction for the food purchase (here, we
    >>> are charged tax).
    >>>

    >> You can deduct business expenses, whatever they are. If you call a
    >> plumber to come fix the plumbing at your business, then you can deduct
    >> that as a business expense. If you call a plumber to come fix the
    >> plumbing at your house, that's not a business expense.
    >>

    > But if he's worth top dollar and doesn't charge it, you may tip him.
    > We (US type Americans) tip works of all sorts, not just restaurant
    > workers.
    >
    >

    How much do you give to your man-whore?

    Rob

  12. #12
    [email protected] Guest

    Default Re: After all it is part of their income

    On Dec 12, 6:35*pm, Dan Abel <da...@sonic.net> wrote:
    > In article
    > <f095ed5c-5717-4b0e-ae3a-1ec2ea3e1...@f20g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
    >
    > *"fries...@zoocrewphoto.com" <fries...@zoocrewphoto.com> wrote:
    > > On Dec 12, 2:32*pm, Stu <i...@foodforu.ca> wrote:
    > > > Employees in the hospitality industry who normally receive tips as
    > > > part of their income are legally obligated to declare them on their
    > > > tax return. After all it is part of their income.

    >
    > > > But here's a question to ponder.

    >
    > > > If that's the case then shouldn't people who give tips to waitstaff
    > > > and cabbies be able to use these tips as a tax deduction?

    >
    > > Why? It's a payment for services, not a donation to a registered
    > > charity. *We don't get a tax deduction for the food purchase (here, we
    > > are charged tax).

    >
    > You can deduct business expenses, whatever they are. *If you call a
    > plumber to come fix the plumbing *at your business, then you can deduct
    > that as a business expense. *If you call a plumber to come fix the
    > plumbing at your house, that's not a business expense.
    >


    It's only a business expense to eat at a restaurant if that is part of
    the business. I would assume that those people are already counting
    the whole meal, including the tip when figuring deductions. Most
    people and most meals are not business expenses.


  13. #13
    Jinx Minx Guest

    Default Re: After all it is part of their income


    <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    On Dec 12, 6:35 pm, Dan Abel <da...@sonic.net> wrote:
    > In article
    > <f095ed5c-5717-4b0e-ae3a-1ec2ea3e1...@f20g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
    >
    > "fries...@zoocrewphoto.com" <fries...@zoocrewphoto.com> wrote:
    > > On Dec 12, 2:32 pm, Stu <i...@foodforu.ca> wrote:
    > > > Employees in the hospitality industry who normally receive tips as
    > > > part of their income are legally obligated to declare them on their
    > > > tax return. After all it is part of their income.

    >
    > > > But here's a question to ponder.

    >
    > > > If that's the case then shouldn't people who give tips to waitstaff
    > > > and cabbies be able to use these tips as a tax deduction?

    >
    > > Why? It's a payment for services, not a donation to a registered
    > > charity. We don't get a tax deduction for the food purchase (here, we
    > > are charged tax).

    >
    > You can deduct business expenses, whatever they are. If you call a
    > plumber to come fix the plumbing at your business, then you can deduct
    > that as a business expense. If you call a plumber to come fix the
    > plumbing at your house, that's not a business expense.
    >


    It's only a business expense to eat at a restaurant if that is part of
    the business. I would assume that those people are already counting
    the whole meal, including the tip when figuring deductions. Most
    people and most meals are not business expenses.

    ********************************************
    You can take the tax deduction for meals if you're entertaining a client
    (work must be discussed) or if your company sends you away on a business
    trip, but only up to 50% of the total cost (including tip).

    Jinx



  14. #14
    nospam Guest

    Default Re: After all it is part of their income

    Rob (the ****** gmail loser) wrote:
    > How much do you give to your man-whore?


    How much do you charge your many multiple man-whores?

  15. #15
    Rob Guest

    Default Re: After all it is part of their income

    nospam wrote:
    > Rob (the ****** gmail loser) wrote:
    >> How much do you give to your man-whore?

    >
    > How much do you charge your many multiple man-whores?


    Generic Poster,

    Go **** yourself.

    Rob

  16. #16
    projectile vomit chick Guest

    Default Re: After all it is part of their income

    On Dec 12, 4:47*pm, Chemo the Clown <an...@peak.org> wrote:
    > On Dec 12, 2:46*pm, Stu <i...@foodforu.ca> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 14:39:56 -0800 (PST), Chemo the Clown <an...@peak.org>
    > > wrote:

    >
    > > -->On Dec 12, 2:32 pm, Stu <i...@foodforu.ca> wrote:
    > > -->> Employees in the hospitality industry who normally receive tips as
    > > -->> part of their income are legally obligated to declare them on their
    > > -->> tax return. After all it is part of their income.
    > > -->>
    > > -->> But here's a question to ponder.
    > > -->>
    > > -->> If that's the case then shouldn't people who give tips to waitstaff
    > > -->> and cabbies be able to use these tips as a tax deduction?
    > > -->
    > > -->Post a recipe or have something to say about cooking!!!
    > > -->
    > > -->or
    > > -->
    > > -->go to a CPA!!
    > > bite me

    >
    > > ---------- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    >
    > > * * * Title: "Better Than Sex" Cake
    > > *Categories: None
    > > * * * Yield: 1 Servings

    >
    > > * * * 1 * *Box German chocolate cake
    > > * * * * * *-mix
    > > * * * 7 oz Sweetened condensed milk
    > > * * 1/2 * *Jar caramel sauce;,
    > > * * * * * *-(12-ounce jar)
    > > * * * 1 * *Container; (8 oz) non-dairy
    > > * * * * * *-whipped topping, thawed
    > > * * * 6 * *Heath candy bars; crushed,
    > > * * * * * *-(up to 8)

    >
    > > * Bake cake in 9 by 13-inch cake pan, as directed on box. Let it cool
    > > * slightly and poke little holes in the top of the cake with a pencil..
    > > * Dribble sweetened condensed milk and caramel sauce over cake. Let stand for
    > > * over an hour until the cake has completely cooled. Frost with whipped
    > > * topping and sprinkle crushed candy bars over that. Refrigerate.

    >
    > That sounds just awful!


    lol yeah he must have some really bad sex lol


  17. #17
    Bob Terwilliger Guest

    Default Re: After all it is part of their income

    Stu posted:

    > Title: "Better Than Sex" Cake
    > Categories: None
    > Yield: 1 Servings
    >
    > 1 Box German chocolate cake
    > -mix
    > 7 oz Sweetened condensed milk
    > 1/2 Jar caramel sauce;,
    > -(12-ounce jar)
    > 1 Container; (8 oz) non-dairy
    > -whipped topping, thawed
    > 6 Heath candy bars; crushed,
    > -(up to 8)
    >
    > Bake cake in 9 by 13-inch cake pan, as directed on box. Let it cool
    > slightly and poke little holes in the top of the cake with a pencil.
    > Dribble sweetened condensed milk and caramel sauce over cake. Let stand
    > for over an hour until the cake has completely cooled. Frost with whipped
    > topping and sprinkle crushed candy bars over that. Refrigerate.


    Better than sex? Not even CLOSE.

    "You've never had sex the way that *I* do it!"

    Bob


  18. #18
    brooklyn1 Guest

    Default Re: After all it is part of their income

    On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 02:24:49 -0800, "Bob Terwilliger"
    <virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz> wrote:

    >Stu posted:
    >
    >> Title: "Better Than Sex" Cake
    >> Categories: None
    >> Yield: 1 Servings
    >>
    >> 1 Box German chocolate cake
    >> -mix
    >> 7 oz Sweetened condensed milk
    >> 1/2 Jar caramel sauce;,
    >> -(12-ounce jar)
    >> 1 Container; (8 oz) non-dairy
    >> -whipped topping, thawed
    >> 6 Heath candy bars; crushed,
    >> -(up to 8)
    >>
    >> Bake cake in 9 by 13-inch cake pan, as directed on box. Let it cool
    >> slightly and poke little holes in the top of the cake with a pencil.
    >> Dribble sweetened condensed milk and caramel sauce over cake. Let stand
    >> for over an hour until the cake has completely cooled. Frost with whipped
    >> topping and sprinkle crushed candy bars over that. Refrigerate.

    >
    >Better than sex? Not even CLOSE.
    >
    >"You've never had sex the way that *I* do it!"
    >
    >

    Bragging or complaining... hmm, let's start a list. . . . with yer
    mama... a schmoo shoves an axe handle up your ass... a troop of
    babboons gang bangs yer face... heheh

  19. #19
    Bob Terwilliger Guest

    Default Re: After all it is part of their income

    Sheldon masturbate:

    >>"You've never had sex the way that *I* do it!"
    >>
    >>

    > Bragging or complaining... hmm, let's start a list. . . . with yer
    > mama... a schmoo shoves an axe handle up your ass... a troop of
    > babboons gang bangs yer face... heheh


    Sharing your fantasies? TMI, sailor.

    Bob

  20. #20
    Nancy2 Guest

    Default Re: After all it is part of their income

    On Dec 12, 4:32*pm, Stu <i...@foodforu.ca> wrote:
    > Employees in the hospitality industry who normally receive tips as
    > part of their income are legally obligated to declare them on their
    > tax return. After all it is part of their income.
    >
    > But here's a question to ponder.
    >
    > If that's the case then shouldn't people who give tips to waitstaff
    > and cabbies be able to use these tips as a tax deduction?


    Huh? Why would they be tax deductions? They aren't charity. It's no
    different from giving gifts of money to your relatives or friends,
    which you don't deduct, anyway.



    Christmas dinner: A whole beef tenderloin with wine/mushroom sauce:

    Wine/Mushroom Sauce for Beef Steak or Whole Tenderloin
    Nancy Dooley
    3 packages of "mini" portabella mushrooms one large onion - diced
    3 cloves of fresh garlic
    2 tbs. of Worcestershire (sp?) sauce
    4 tbs. of butter
    1/4 cup of white wine
    1/2 cup of sour cream
    2 bay leaves
    3 - 4 tbs. flour
    1/2 - 1 cup of beef broth (from roast or canned broth) fresh dill and
    fresh parsley

    Saute onion and garlic in butter, then add mushrooms for just a few
    minutes. In a separate pan, make a "paste" (roux) of 2 tbs. butter
    and flour (with salt and pepper). Add the beef broth and
    Worcestershire sauce to the roux. Remove mushrooms etc. from the saute
    pan - add the wine to cook down, and then the fresh herbs. Slowly mix
    together the beef liquid to the roux (paste) with a whisk and then add
    the sour cream and mix slowly. Last - add the cooked mushrooms to the
    thickened sauce and heat until just hot (dont cook any more). Add
    more pepper and dill to taste.

    N.

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