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Old 11-01-2009, 06:08 PM
gloria.p
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Default 100 Things Restaurant DINERS should always (never?) do


Sorry if this is not a new idea, but I have been w/o newsgroup
access for three days and I come back to over 1200 messages.
Can't read them all but I have read many of the 100 restaurant
servers thread. I thought it might be interesting to see what
we as patrons of a restaurant expect of ourselves and others.


1. Be kind. Try to understand. Your server may have had some
horrible customers this shift, may have a headache, backache,
sick child, spouse, or parent. The aspect you don't like may be
a company policy.

2. If you need something or the server has done something wrong,
mention it without being sarcastic, hostile, or nasty. This is a
person, someone's child/spouse/parent, not a robot.

3. Don't make a mess just because you CAN. We once went to
dinner with someone who insisted on trashing the bread/rolls
because "I want to make sure they don't serve them again to
another table. It's the LAW." It was kind of disgusting.

What're your suggestions?

gloria p
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Old 11-01-2009, 06:23 PM
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On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:08:24 -0700, "gloria.p" <gpuester@comcast.net>
wrote:

>3. Don't make a mess just because you CAN. We once went to
>dinner with someone who insisted on trashing the bread/rolls
>because "I want to make sure they don't serve them again to
>another table. It's the LAW." It was kind of disgusting.


How juvenile. Hopefully you never dined out with that person again.

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Old 11-01-2009, 06:27 PM
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sf wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:08:24 -0700, "gloria.p" <gpuester@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>> 3. Don't make a mess just because you CAN. We once went to
>> dinner with someone who insisted on trashing the bread/rolls
>> because "I want to make sure they don't serve them again to
>> another table. It's the LAW." It was kind of disgusting.

>
> How juvenile. Hopefully you never dined out with that person again.
>



No, we didn't. It really surprised me because the couple was
very well educated and each taught in very nice CT prep schools.
(He had a PhD. in Philosophy!) Both were very controlling
personalities, however and had lots of unspoken personal "rules"
for things. :-(

gloria p
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Old 11-01-2009, 06:41 PM
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"gloria.p" <gpuester@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> Sorry if this is not a new idea, but I have been w/o newsgroup access for
> three days and I come back to over 1200 messages.
> Can't read them all but I have read many of the 100 restaurant servers
> thread. I thought it might be interesting to see what
> we as patrons of a restaurant expect of ourselves and others.
>
>
> 1. Be kind. Try to understand. Your server may have had some horrible
> customers this shift, may have a headache, backache, sick child, spouse,
> or parent. The aspect you don't like may be a company policy.
>
> 2. If you need something or the server has done something wrong,
> mention it without being sarcastic, hostile, or nasty. This is a person,
> someone's child/spouse/parent, not a robot.
>
> 3. Don't make a mess just because you CAN. We once went to dinner with
> someone who insisted on trashing the bread/rolls because "I want to make
> sure they don't serve them again to another table. It's the LAW." It was
> kind of disgusting.
>


Excellent post. I have stayed out of this thread, and actually have not read
many posts because I had a feeling it was not a good idea for me to get into
it, lol.


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Old 11-01-2009, 07:01 PM
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On Nov 1, 2:08*pm, "gloria.p" <gpues...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Sorry if this is not a new idea, but I have been w/o newsgroup
> access for three days and I come back to over 1200 messages.
> Can't read them all but I have read many of the 100 restaurant
> servers thread. *I thought it might be interesting to see what
> we as patrons of a restaurant expect of ourselves and others.
>
> 1. *Be kind. *Try to understand. *Your server may have had some
> horrible customers this shift, may have a headache, backache,
> sick child, spouse, or parent. *The aspect you don't like may be
> a company policy.
>
> 2. If you need something or the server has done something wrong,
> mention it without being sarcastic, hostile, or nasty. *This is a
> person, someone's child/spouse/parent, not a robot.
>
> 3. Don't make a mess just because you CAN. *We once went to
> dinner with someone who insisted on trashing the bread/rolls
> because "I want to make sure they don't serve them again to
> another table. It's the LAW." *It was kind of disgusting.
>
> What're your suggestions?
>
> gloria p


A server needs to be 'on' irregardless of how he/she has been treated
by someone else. That's not the customer's concern. If you try and
sabotage the server/restaurant, then shame on you, you need to face
the fan.
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Old 11-01-2009, 07:37 PM
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"gloria.p" <gpuester@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> 3. Don't make a mess just because you CAN. We once went to dinner with
> someone who insisted on trashing the bread/rolls because "I want to make
> sure they don't serve them again to another table. It's the LAW." It was
> kind of disgusting.


It's amazing the kinds of messes people can make with food! Back in my
waitress experience, and this will give you an idea of when that was, a very
popular rock band, Nazareth, was passing through town after a concert. They
did some really strange things with food they hadn't eaten and the
condiments on the table, and cigarettes. Restaurants had smoking sections
back then. What a mess.

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Old 11-01-2009, 10:12 PM
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"gloria.p" <gpuester@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> 3. Don't make a mess just because you CAN. We once went to dinner with
> someone who insisted on trashing the bread/rolls because "I want to make
> sure they don't serve them again to another table. It's the LAW." It was
> kind of disgusting.
>
> What're your suggestions?
>
> gloria p


What he did sounds terribly disgusting, Gloria. The restaurants I worked in
weren't even allowed to offer the untouched rolls and bread or baked
potatoes to soup kitchens. Sounds like your dinner friend had some serious
mental problems if he was so worried about what was going to be done with
the leftover bread. I'm so sorry.

Jill

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Old 11-01-2009, 10:37 PM
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"jmcquown" <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote in news:7l6j0dF3b5tkmU1
@mid.individual.net:

> The restaurants I worked in
> weren't even allowed to offer the untouched rolls and bread or baked
> potatoes to soup kitchens.



Evasive BULLSHIT!!! You instead turned them back on the other customers in
the restaurants you worked in.

Like you never committed a restaurant injustice? Fuck you little miss polly
purebread!

Andy
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Old 11-01-2009, 10:55 PM
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"gloria.p" wrote:
>
> Sorry if this is not a new idea, but I have been w/o newsgroup
> access for three days and I come back to over 1200 messages.
> Can't read them all but I have read many of the 100 restaurant
> servers thread. I thought it might be interesting to see what
> we as patrons of a restaurant expect of ourselves and others.
>
> 1. Be kind. Try to understand. Your server may have had some
> horrible customers this shift, may have a headache, backache,
> sick child, spouse, or parent. The aspect you don't like may be
> a company policy.


Correction: Be polite, but firm. What personal issues the waitstaff may
or may not have are irrelevant to the job they are there to perform and
they need to leave their problems outside of the business environment.
The aspect I'm not happy with may indeed be company policy, and as my
interface with the company, it is the waitstaff's duty to report to
management that another customer complained about the policy. They also
have the option of sending the manager over to discuss the issue with me
directly if they want to avoid being the messenger.

>
> 2. If you need something or the server has done something wrong,
> mention it without being sarcastic, hostile, or nasty. This is a
> person, someone's child/spouse/parent, not a robot.


Absolutely, always be polite. Remember however that it is the
waitstaff's job to service your needs as the customer, and they are not
doing you some great favor refilling your empty drink, or bringing you
the silverware they forgot 15 minutes ago.

>
> 3. Don't make a mess just because you CAN. We once went to
> dinner with someone who insisted on trashing the bread/rolls
> because "I want to make sure they don't serve them again to
> another table. It's the LAW." It was kind of disgusting.


I can't possibly comprehend this one, and if I were the manager of the
restaurant and witnessed this type of behavior I would ask the offenders
to leave my restaurant and not to return until they learned to behave in
a civilized manner and not disgust my other customers.
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Old 11-01-2009, 10:57 PM
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"gloria.p" wrote:
>
> sf wrote:
> > On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:08:24 -0700, "gloria.p" <gpuester@comcast.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> 3. Don't make a mess just because you CAN. We once went to
> >> dinner with someone who insisted on trashing the bread/rolls
> >> because "I want to make sure they don't serve them again to
> >> another table. It's the LAW." It was kind of disgusting.

> >
> > How juvenile. Hopefully you never dined out with that person again.
> >

>
> No, we didn't. It really surprised me because the couple was
> very well educated and each taught in very nice CT prep schools.
> (He had a PhD. in Philosophy!) Both were very controlling
> personalities, however and had lots of unspoken personal "rules"
> for things. :-(
>
> gloria p


They sound like classic PYVs. One of the reasons I left CT, along with
the lousy weather and unstable economy.
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Old 11-01-2009, 11:07 PM
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In my experience for the best dining experience?

Wait your turn.

Andy
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Old 11-01-2009, 11:22 PM
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In article <7l6j0dF3b5tkmU1@mid.individual.net>,
"jmcquown" <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:

> "gloria.p" <gpuester@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:hckmbi$2v4$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> >
> > 3. Don't make a mess just because you CAN. We once went to dinner with
> > someone who insisted on trashing the bread/rolls because "I want to make
> > sure they don't serve them again to another table. It's the LAW." It was
> > kind of disgusting.


> What he did sounds terribly disgusting, Gloria. The restaurants I worked in
> weren't even allowed to offer the untouched rolls and bread or baked
> potatoes to soup kitchens. Sounds like your dinner friend had some serious
> mental problems if he was so worried about what was going to be done with
> the leftover bread. I'm so sorry.


What is wrong with offering untouched food to the next unsuspecting
diner? (serious question)

What then, makes it OK to offer the same food to soup kitchens?

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Old 11-01-2009, 11:52 PM
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"Andy" <a@b.c> wrote in message news:Xns9CB6BD7778D13Cotd@216.196.97.131...
> "jmcquown" <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote in news:7l6j0dF3b5tkmU1
> @mid.individual.net:
>
>> The restaurants I worked in
>> weren't even allowed to offer the untouched rolls and bread or baked
>> potatoes to soup kitchens.

>
>
> Evasive BULLSHIT!!! You instead turned them back on the other customers in
> the restaurants you worked in.
>
> Like you never committed a restaurant injustice? Fuck you little miss
> polly
> purebread!


Oh my.

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Old 11-02-2009, 12:08 AM
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"Cheryl" <jlhshadow@hotmail.com> wrote in
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>
> "Andy" <a@b.c> wrote in message
> news:Xns9CB6BD7778D13Cotd@216.196.97.131...
>> "jmcquown" <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote in news:7l6j0dF3b5tkmU1
>> @mid.individual.net:
>>
>>> The restaurants I worked in
>>> weren't even allowed to offer the untouched rolls and bread or baked
>>> potatoes to soup kitchens.

>>
>>
>> Evasive BULLSHIT!!! You instead turned them back on the other
>> customers in the restaurants you worked in.
>>
>> Like you never committed a restaurant injustice? Fuck you little miss
>> polly
>> purebread!

>
> Oh my.



Yeah, shame on me!

Andy

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Old 11-02-2009, 12:34 AM
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"Cheryl" <jlhshadow@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Andy" <a@b.c> wrote in message
> news:Xns9CB6BD7778D13Cotd@216.196.97.131...
>> "jmcquown" <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote in news:7l6j0dF3b5tkmU1
>> @mid.individual.net:
>>
>>> The restaurants I worked in
>>> weren't even allowed to offer the untouched rolls and bread or baked
>>> potatoes to soup kitchens.

>>
>>
>> Evasive BULLSHIT!!! You instead turned them back on the other customers
>> in
>> the restaurants you worked in.
>>
>> Like you never committed a restaurant injustice? Fuck you little miss
>> polly
>> purebread!

>
> Oh my.


Andy has clearly lost what little mind he had.

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Old 11-02-2009, 12:35 AM
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"Dan Abel" <dabel@sonic.net> wrote in message
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> In article <7l6j0dF3b5tkmU1@mid.individual.net>,
> "jmcquown" <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> "gloria.p" <gpuester@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:hckmbi$2v4$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> >
>> > 3. Don't make a mess just because you CAN. We once went to dinner with
>> > someone who insisted on trashing the bread/rolls because "I want to
>> > make
>> > sure they don't serve them again to another table. It's the LAW." It
>> > was
>> > kind of disgusting.

>
>> What he did sounds terribly disgusting, Gloria. The restaurants I worked
>> in
>> weren't even allowed to offer the untouched rolls and bread or baked
>> potatoes to soup kitchens. Sounds like your dinner friend had some
>> serious
>> mental problems if he was so worried about what was going to be done with
>> the leftover bread. I'm so sorry.

>
> What is wrong with offering untouched food to the next unsuspecting
> diner? (serious question)
>
> What then, makes it OK to offer the same food to soup kitchens?
>

hahaha! Excellent question.

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Old 11-02-2009, 12:55 AM
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On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 19:52:38 -0500, "Cheryl" <jlhshadow@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>"Andy" <a@b.c> wrote in message news:Xns9CB6BD7778D13Cotd@216.196.97.131...
>> "jmcquown" <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote in news:7l6j0dF3b5tkmU1
>> @mid.individual.net:
>>
>>> The restaurants I worked in
>>> weren't even allowed to offer the untouched rolls and bread or baked
>>> potatoes to soup kitchens.

>>
>>
>> Evasive BULLSHIT!!! You instead turned them back on the other customers in
>> the restaurants you worked in.
>>
>> Like you never committed a restaurant injustice? Fuck you little miss
>> polly
>> purebread!

>
>Oh my.


Um, wouldn't that be Polly Purebred?
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Old 11-02-2009, 01:11 AM
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On Nov 1, 7:22*pm, Dan Abel <da...@sonic.net> wrote:
> In article <7l6j0dF3b5tk...@mid.individual.net>,
>
> *"jmcquown" <j_mcqu...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > "gloria.p" <gpues...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >news:hckmbi$2v4$1@news.eternal-september.org...

>
> > > 3. Don't make a mess just because you CAN. *We once went to dinner with
> > > someone who insisted on trashing the bread/rolls because "I want to make
> > > sure they don't serve them again to another table. It's the LAW." *It was
> > > kind of disgusting.

> > What he did sounds terribly disgusting, Gloria. *The restaurants I worked in
> > weren't even allowed to offer the untouched rolls and bread or baked
> > potatoes to soup kitchens. *Sounds like your dinner friend had some serious
> > mental problems if he was so worried about what was going to be done with
> > the leftover bread. *I'm so sorry.

>
> What is wrong with offering untouched food to the next unsuspecting
> diner? *(serious question)


Once it's been brought out to the table, you don't know what's
happened to it. Someone could have sneezed on it, picked it up with
dirty hands (how often do people wash their hands before eating at a
restaurant?), or otherwise passed some type of virus onto the food.
With the butter and margarine containers, if they keep going out and
coming back, untouched, they could spoil. And those are just for
starters.

> What then, makes it OK to offer the same food to soup kitchens?


The OP said that it is _not_ ok for the restaurant to offer those to
the soup kitchen. Has to be stuff that hasn't left the kitchen, where
it presumably is still wholesome for someone to eat.

maxine in ri
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Old 11-02-2009, 01:45 AM
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"Andy" <a@b.c> wrote in message news:Xns9CB6CCF1C4C26Cotd@216.196.97.131...
> "Cheryl" <jlhshadow@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:u3qHm.9113$Js.624@newsfe10.iad:
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>>
>> "Andy" <a@b.c> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9CB6BD7778D13Cotd@216.196.97.131...
>>> "jmcquown" <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote in news:7l6j0dF3b5tkmU1
>>> @mid.individual.net:
>>>
>>>> The restaurants I worked in
>>>> weren't even allowed to offer the untouched rolls and bread or baked
>>>> potatoes to soup kitchens.
>>>
>>>
>>> Evasive BULLSHIT!!! You instead turned them back on the other
>>> customers in the restaurants you worked in.
>>>
>>> Like you never committed a restaurant injustice? Fuck you little miss
>>> polly
>>> purebread!

>>
>> Oh my.

>
>
> Yeah, shame on me!
>


Um, that is not exactly what Cheryl meant by "oh my."
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Old 11-02-2009, 01:46 AM
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brooklyn1 <gravesend10@verizon.net> wrote in
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> On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 19:52:38 -0500, "Cheryl" <jlhshadow@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Andy" <a@b.c> wrote in message
>>news:Xns9CB6BD7778D13Cotd@216.196.97.131...
>>> "jmcquown" <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote in news:7l6j0dF3b5tkmU1
>>> @mid.individual.net:
>>>
>>>> The restaurants I worked in
>>>> weren't even allowed to offer the untouched rolls and bread or
>>>> baked potatoes to soup kitchens.
>>>
>>>
>>> Evasive BULLSHIT!!! You instead turned them back on the other
>>> customers in the restaurants you worked in.
>>>
>>> Like you never committed a restaurant injustice? Fuck you little
>>> miss polly
>>> purebread!

>>
>>Oh my.

>
> Um, wouldn't that be Polly Purebred?



Sheldon,

HA! I have a world series in motion to worry about!

You and your Yankees!!!

Andy
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