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    Bi!! Guest

    Default Washington Syrah, Cal Cab, Grenache

    Needed a red wine fix last night as Marco Island Florida usually means
    white wine so I opened some wines that I have in my small storage unit
    and shared with friends and casual food.

    1995 Ristow Napa Cabernet Sauvignon-I bought a couple of cases of
    various vintages of Ristow a number of years ago not long after they
    started making wines so I've had this for a while. Medium red with
    plum and mineral notes on the nose. The wine is starting to show a
    bit of age with a hint of brick in the glass. Mediuim weight on the
    palate, a bit of herbal notes at first with typical Napa dusty
    flavors. A bit of red fruits, plums and leather amoe what one-note.
    OK but not very interesting. "C+/B-"

    2007 Kongsgaard Grenache/Syrah 85/15-Dark ruby in the glass. Effusive
    nose of crushed red raspberry and wildflowers. Deep bright flavors of
    red currants, exotic spice a bit of black pepper and quince. Nice
    round and smooth, well balanced. "B+"

    2007 Charles Smith Royal City Washington State Syrah- I'm not a fan of
    huge, over extracted, high octane wines but this one kind of grew on
    me. At 16% alcohol we decided to open this last and it was a good
    choice as it was very Port-like in structure. Inky black, thick and
    glass coating. Nose of pure blackberry juice. A hint of black
    peppercorns and briary thistle. Very heavy on the palate initially
    with the impression of sweetness from the very ripe fruit flavors.
    More like blackberry liquer than wine, it was delicious in a strange
    way but not appropriate with many foods, it's more of an afterdinner
    sipper. If you like them big, thick, heavy and rich...it's an "A".
    For me it was just a "B"

  2. #2
    Mark Lipton Guest

    Default Re: Washington Syrah, Cal Cab, Grenache

    On 3/4/11 11:01 AM, Bi!! wrote:
    > Needed a red wine fix last night as Marco Island Florida usually means
    > white wine so I opened some wines that I have in my small storage unit
    > and shared with friends and casual food.
    >
    > 1995 Ristow Napa Cabernet Sauvignon-I bought a couple of cases of
    > various vintages of Ristow a number of years ago not long after they
    > started making wines so I've had this for a while. Medium red with
    > plum and mineral notes on the nose. The wine is starting to show a
    > bit of age with a hint of brick in the glass. Mediuim weight on the
    > palate, a bit of herbal notes at first with typical Napa dusty
    > flavors. A bit of red fruits, plums and leather amoe what one-note.
    > OK but not very interesting. "C+/B-"


    Bill,
    I am interested in this note as I am not sure why you scored it as
    low as you did. Why was it not more interesting? What was it lacking?
    FWIW, I've never heard of this producer and try to keep current on
    what's going on in Napa (though, obviously, not very effectively).

    Mark Lipton
    --
    alt.food.wine FAQ: http://winefaq.cwdjr.net

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    DaleW Guest

    Default Re: Washington Syrah, Cal Cab, Grenache

    On Mar 4, 11:10*am, Mark Lipton <not...@eudrup.ude> wrote:
    > On 3/4/11 11:01 AM, Bi!! wrote:
    >
    > > Needed a red wine fix last night as Marco Island Florida usually means
    > > white wine so I opened some wines that I have in my small storage unit
    > > and shared with friends and casual food.

    >
    > > 1995 Ristow Napa Cabernet Sauvignon-I bought a couple of cases of
    > > various vintages of Ristow a number of years ago not long after they
    > > started making wines so I've had this for a while. *Medium red with
    > > plum and mineral notes on the nose. *The wine is starting to show a
    > > bit of age with a hint of brick in the glass. *Mediuim weight on the
    > > palate, a bit of herbal notes at first with typical Napa dusty
    > > flavors. *A bit of red fruits, plums and leather amoe what one-note.
    > > OK but not very interesting. "C+/B-"

    >
    > Bill,
    > * *I am interested in this note as I am not sure why you scored it as
    > low as you did. *Why was it not more interesting? *What was it lacking?
    > FWIW, I've never heard of this producer and try to keep current on
    > what's going on in Napa (though, obviously, not very effectively).
    >
    > Mark Lipton
    > --
    > alt.food.wine FAQ: *http://winefaq.cwdjr.net


    I too am a bit surprised at a totally unfamiliar name.
    Kongsgaard and Charles Smith- when you decide to drink red wine in
    white wine country, you don't fool around!

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    Bi!! Guest

    Default Re: Washington Syrah, Cal Cab, Grenache

    On Mar 4, 11:10*am, Mark Lipton <not...@eudrup.ude> wrote:
    > On 3/4/11 11:01 AM, Bi!! wrote:
    >
    > > Needed a red wine fix last night as Marco Island Florida usually means
    > > white wine so I opened some wines that I have in my small storage unit
    > > and shared with friends and casual food.

    >
    > > 1995 Ristow Napa Cabernet Sauvignon-I bought a couple of cases of
    > > various vintages of Ristow a number of years ago not long after they
    > > started making wines so I've had this for a while. *Medium red with
    > > plum and mineral notes on the nose. *The wine is starting to show a
    > > bit of age with a hint of brick in the glass. *Mediuim weight on the
    > > palate, a bit of herbal notes at first with typical Napa dusty
    > > flavors. *A bit of red fruits, plums and leather amoe what one-note.
    > > OK but not very interesting. "C+/B-"

    >
    > Bill,
    > * *I am interested in this note as I am not sure why you scored it as
    > low as you did. *Why was it not more interesting? *What was it lacking?
    > FWIW, I've never heard of this producer and try to keep current on
    > what's going on in Napa (though, obviously, not very effectively).
    >
    > Mark Lipton
    > --
    > alt.food.wine FAQ: *http://winefaq.cwdjr.net


    Short version of a long story. Used to sell the wines formerly known
    as Ristow (now call Pedras). The wine is made at Laird from Ristow
    Estate fruit and is fairly limited in production. I haven't had
    anything past 1999 made by them. Now operated by the daughter and son
    in law of the former owner....iirc, a plactic surgeon from LA. They
    cleared and planted the vineyards in the early 90's along Silverado
    Trail at Soda Canyon Road about half way up the mountain. The wine
    was vague, not much in terms of definition of flavors, a bit dull,
    little or no secondary flavors but age is creeping in and I'm hoping
    that the wine might still bloom. It was a little tannic and acidic
    but was better with a little meat. It was drinkable but forgettable
    at this point but there was just enough underneath that I didn't want
    to completely dismiss it.

  5. #5
    Bi!! Guest

    Default Re: Washington Syrah, Cal Cab, Grenache

    On Mar 4, 11:44*am, DaleW <Dwmi...@aol.com> wrote:
    > On Mar 4, 11:10*am, Mark Lipton <not...@eudrup.ude> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > On 3/4/11 11:01 AM, Bi!! wrote:

    >
    > > > Needed a red wine fix last night as Marco Island Florida usually means
    > > > white wine so I opened some wines that I have in my small storage unit
    > > > and shared with friends and casual food.

    >
    > > > 1995 Ristow Napa Cabernet Sauvignon-I bought a couple of cases of
    > > > various vintages of Ristow a number of years ago not long after they
    > > > started making wines so I've had this for a while. *Medium red with
    > > > plum and mineral notes on the nose. *The wine is starting to show a
    > > > bit of age with a hint of brick in the glass. *Mediuim weight on the
    > > > palate, a bit of herbal notes at first with typical Napa dusty
    > > > flavors. *A bit of red fruits, plums and leather amoe what one-note..
    > > > OK but not very interesting. "C+/B-"

    >
    > > Bill,
    > > * *I am interested in this note as I am not sure why you scored it as
    > > low as you did. *Why was it not more interesting? *What was it lacking?
    > > FWIW, I've never heard of this producer and try to keep current on
    > > what's going on in Napa (though, obviously, not very effectively).

    >
    > > Mark Lipton
    > > --
    > > alt.food.wine FAQ: *http://winefaq.cwdjr.net

    >
    > I too am a bit surprised at a totally unfamiliar name.
    > *Kongsgaard and Charles Smith- when you decide to drink red wine in
    > white wine country, you don't fool around! - Hide quoted text -
    >
    > - Show quoted text -


    A guest brought the Charles Smith (an insisted that we open it) I used
    to have na interest in the distributor of Kongsgaard so I had a bunch
    of it. Ristow now called Pedras.

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