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Thread: TN: Wines in GA- California, Burgundy (not Cote d'Or), Champagne

  1. #1
    DaleW Guest

    Default TN: Wines in GA- California, Burgundy (not Cote d'Or), Champagne

    A few days in Georgia celebrating Thanksgiving with family. We weren't
    checking luggage, so I visited a store (Harry's Market) on our second
    day and grabbed a couple bottles, plus my brother brought a couple to
    Thursday's feast (though a Kistler chard was never opened). No wine
    Tuesday, but Wednesday Dad made a seafood casserole, and I opened
    the 2007 de Villaine Bouzeron, an Aligote. Crisp, lemony, moderate
    body, but with a slightly odd grassy/chemical note on nose. On day 2
    that seems to blow off. Not bad once nose cleared, but in mid-$20s not
    worth looking for. B-

    Thursday was of course the big day, and we had turkey, ham, dressing,
    mac and cheese, potatoes, kohlrabi, rutabagas, Brussels sprouts, sweet
    potatoes 2 ways, cranberry sauce and relish, salad, and a few things
    I've forgotten. We started with a toast to my mom, who had a good
    report on a scan this week (she's in chemo). Wine was the NV Aubry 1er
    Cru Brut Champagne. Full framed, a touch austere, apples and yeast
    rolls. Quite dry, good acids, I'm surprised when my CalChard loving
    sister in law quite likes. I did , too! B+/A-

    Red was the 2007 Peter Michael L'Esprit de Pavots (is this the second
    wine?). Big, lush, blueberry meets blackberry, vanilla cola notes. Not
    really my style, but generous of my brother to bring. B-/C+

    We didn't open the 2009 Jadot-Beaujolais-Villages, but I opted to on
    Friday night rather than continue with the Cali blend (dinner was of
    course leftovers). I didn't have a lot of expectation from a huge
    production BV, but this was actually pretty tasty- ripe red and black
    cherries, a floral note, good acidity, just a hint of earth.
    Unpretentious and straightforward, I'd buy this again. B

    I have to say that wine-buying in Georgia (in my limited experience)
    is tough. There's one good (but expensive to my NY eyes) wine shop I
    know of in area where my family lives (Hinton's, in Alpharetta) but
    while close to my brother it's a good drive from my parents where we
    were staying. Most wine is sold in grocery stores, and selection is
    wide but shallow- tons of KJ, Smoking Loon, Yellowtail, etc with a few
    higher end wines at "higher than I'm used to" prices (at all levels).
    I shopped at Harry's Market, now owned by Whole Foods, which has an ok
    selection, but again nosebleed prices. I chose the Aubry because it
    was the one wine I thought both interesting and reasonably priced
    ($35), the Villaine because I seldom see their wines around here, and
    the Jadot because I had spent way too long in wine area and needed to
    get out. I actually tried for an American wine for an American
    holiday, but things I considered were so over-priced (Dashe Dry Creek
    Zin was in low $30s) I couldn't pull trigger.

    Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent
    wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't
    drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no
    promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.*

  2. #2
    Mike Hagley Guest

    Default Re: TN: Wines in GA- California, Burgundy (not Cote d'Or), Champagne

    ?Had you asked for recommendations in the Atlanta area, you would have found
    that there several good wine stores here, including Green's, Tower, Ansley
    Square, Sherlock's, Pops!, and Duluth Fine Wines, just to name a few. In
    addition, the DeKalb Farmers Market has an extensive inventory with very
    good prices.

    Mike Hagley

    "DaleW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > A few days in Georgia celebrating Thanksgiving with family. We weren't
    > checking luggage, so I visited a store (Harry's Market) on our second
    > day and grabbed a couple bottles, plus my brother brought a couple to
    > Thursday's feast (though a Kistler chard was never opened). No wine
    > Tuesday, but Wednesday Dad made a seafood casserole, and I opened
    > the 2007 de Villaine Bouzeron, an Aligote. Crisp, lemony, moderate
    > body, but with a slightly odd grassy/chemical note on nose. On day 2
    > that seems to blow off. Not bad once nose cleared, but in mid-$20s not
    > worth looking for. B-
    >
    > Thursday was of course the big day, and we had turkey, ham, dressing,
    > mac and cheese, potatoes, kohlrabi, rutabagas, Brussels sprouts, sweet
    > potatoes 2 ways, cranberry sauce and relish, salad, and a few things
    > I've forgotten. We started with a toast to my mom, who had a good
    > report on a scan this week (she's in chemo). Wine was the NV Aubry 1er
    > Cru Brut Champagne. Full framed, a touch austere, apples and yeast
    > rolls. Quite dry, good acids, I'm surprised when my CalChard loving
    > sister in law quite likes. I did , too! B+/A-
    >
    > Red was the 2007 Peter Michael L'Esprit de Pavots (is this the second
    > wine?). Big, lush, blueberry meets blackberry, vanilla cola notes. Not
    > really my style, but generous of my brother to bring. B-/C+
    >
    > We didn't open the 2009 Jadot-Beaujolais-Villages, but I opted to on
    > Friday night rather than continue with the Cali blend (dinner was of
    > course leftovers). I didn't have a lot of expectation from a huge
    > production BV, but this was actually pretty tasty- ripe red and black
    > cherries, a floral note, good acidity, just a hint of earth.
    > Unpretentious and straightforward, I'd buy this again. B
    >
    > I have to say that wine-buying in Georgia (in my limited experience)
    > is tough. There's one good (but expensive to my NY eyes) wine shop I
    > know of in area where my family lives (Hinton's, in Alpharetta) but
    > while close to my brother it's a good drive from my parents where we
    > were staying. Most wine is sold in grocery stores, and selection is
    > wide but shallow- tons of KJ, Smoking Loon, Yellowtail, etc with a few
    > higher end wines at "higher than I'm used to" prices (at all levels).
    > I shopped at Harry's Market, now owned by Whole Foods, which has an ok
    > selection, but again nosebleed prices. I chose the Aubry because it
    > was the one wine I thought both interesting and reasonably priced
    > ($35), the Villaine because I seldom see their wines around here, and
    > the Jadot because I had spent way too long in wine area and needed to
    > get out. I actually tried for an American wine for an American
    > holiday, but things I considered were so over-priced (Dashe Dry Creek
    > Zin was in low $30s) I couldn't pull trigger.
    >
    > Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent
    > wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't
    > drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no
    > promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.
    >


  3. #3
    DaleW Guest

    Default Re: TN: Wines in GA- California, Burgundy (not Cote d'Or), Champagne

    Mike, thanks. On various wine fora I've heard of most of these. But to
    my knowledge none is less than about a 30 minute drive (with good
    traffic, always iffy on 400) from where my parents live (just west of
    old center of Alpharetta). The closest "fine wine" store I know of is
    Chris Hinton's - in Alpharetta, but on far end from where I'm staying.
    On their end of Alpharetta there is just supermarkets and package
    stores that have wine in big letters on sign, but have even more
    limited selections (at higher prices) than the grocery stores. It
    looks like if I was south of Sandy Springs/Dunwoody I've have more
    options.With my limited time to visit family, it seems to me my
    options are Harry's, a bit of a drive to Hinton's, or just checking a
    bag and bringing my wine

    I'm just making generalizations based on my experiences, not judging
    stores in general.

    Prices in GA in general seem high to me compared to my competitive
    markets, even if I could get to the stores.

    On Nov 28, 8:23*am, "Mike Hagley" <hag...@charter.net> wrote:
    > ?Had you asked for recommendations in the Atlanta area, you would have found
    > that there several good wine stores here, including Green's, Tower, Ansley
    > Square, Sherlock's, Pops!, and Duluth Fine Wines, just to name a few. *In
    > addition, the DeKalb Farmers Market has an extensive inventory with very
    > good prices.
    >
    > Mike Hagley
    >
    > "DaleW" <Dwmi...@aol.com> wrote in message
    >
    > news:[email protected]..
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > A few days in Georgia celebrating Thanksgiving with family. We weren't
    > > checking luggage, so I visited a store (Harry's Market) on our second
    > > day and grabbed a couple bottles, plus my brother brought a couple to
    > > Thursday's feast (though a Kistler chard was never opened). No wine
    > > Tuesday, but Wednesday *Dad made a seafood casserole, and I opened
    > > the *2007 de Villaine Bouzeron, an Aligote. Crisp, lemony, moderate
    > > body, but with a slightly odd grassy/chemical note on nose. On day 2
    > > that seems to blow off. Not bad once nose cleared, but in mid-$20s not
    > > worth looking for. B-

    >
    > > Thursday was of course the big day, and we had turkey, ham, dressing,
    > > mac and cheese, potatoes, kohlrabi, rutabagas, Brussels sprouts, sweet
    > > potatoes 2 ways, cranberry sauce and relish, salad, and a few things
    > > I've forgotten. We started with a toast to my mom, who had a good
    > > report on a scan this week (she's in chemo). Wine was the NV Aubry 1er
    > > Cru Brut Champagne. Full framed, a touch austere, apples and yeast
    > > rolls. Quite dry, good acids, I'm surprised when my CalChard loving
    > > sister in law quite likes. I did , too! B+/A-

    >
    > > Red was the 2007 Peter Michael L'Esprit de Pavots (is this the second
    > > wine?). Big, lush, blueberry meets blackberry, vanilla cola notes. Not
    > > really my style, but generous of my brother to bring. B-/C+

    >
    > > We didn't open the 2009 Jadot-Beaujolais-Villages, but I opted to on
    > > Friday night rather than continue with the Cali blend (dinner was of
    > > course leftovers). I didn't have a lot of expectation from a huge
    > > production BV, but this was actually pretty tasty- ripe red and black
    > > cherries, a floral note, good acidity, just a hint of earth.
    > > Unpretentious and straightforward, I'd buy this again. B

    >
    > > I have to say that wine-buying in Georgia (in my limited experience)
    > > is tough. There's one good (but expensive to my NY eyes) wine shop I
    > > know of in area where my family lives (Hinton's, in Alpharetta) but
    > > while close to my brother it's a good drive from my parents where we
    > > were staying. Most wine is sold in grocery stores, and selection is
    > > wide but shallow- tons of KJ, Smoking Loon, Yellowtail, etc with a few
    > > higher end wines at "higher than I'm used to" prices (at all levels).
    > > I shopped at Harry's Market, now owned by Whole Foods, which has an ok
    > > selection, but again nosebleed prices. I chose the Aubry because it
    > > was the one wine I thought both interesting and reasonably priced
    > > ($35), the Villaine because I seldom see their wines around here, and
    > > the Jadot because I had spent way too long in wine area and needed to
    > > get out. I actually tried for an American wine for an American
    > > holiday, but things I considered were so over-priced (Dashe Dry Creek
    > > Zin was in low $30s) I couldn't pull trigger.

    >
    > > Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent
    > > wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't
    > > drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no
    > > promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.


    Mike,
    I

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    Dick N Guest

    Default Re: TN: Wines in GA- California, Burgundy (not Cote d'Or), Champagne

    On Nov 28, 10:01*am, DaleW <Dwmi...@aol.com> wrote:
    > Mike, thanks. On various wine fora I've heard of most of these. But to
    > my knowledge none is less than about a 30 minute drive (with good
    > traffic, always iffy on 400) from where my parents live (just west of
    > old center of Alpharetta). The closest "fine wine" store I know of is
    > Chris Hinton's - in Alpharetta, but on far end from where I'm staying.
    > On their end of Alpharetta there is just supermarkets and package
    > stores that have wine in big letters on sign, but have even more
    > limited selections (at higher prices) than the grocery stores. It
    > looks like if I was south of Sandy Springs/Dunwoody I've have more
    > options.With my limited time to visit family, it seems to me my
    > options are Harry's, a bit of a drive to Hinton's, or just checking a
    > bag and bringing my wine
    >
    > *I'm just making generalizations based on my experiences, not judging
    > stores in general.
    >
    > Prices in GA in general seem high to me compared to my competitive
    > markets, even if I could get to the stores.
    >
    > On Nov 28, 8:23*am, "Mike Hagley" <hag...@charter.net> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > ?Had you asked for recommendations in the Atlanta area, you would have found
    > > that there several good wine stores here, including Green's, Tower, Ansley
    > > Square, Sherlock's, Pops!, and Duluth Fine Wines, just to name a few. *In
    > > addition, the DeKalb Farmers Market has an extensive inventory with very
    > > good prices.

    >
    > > Mike Hagley

    >
    > > "DaleW" <Dwmi...@aol.com> wrote in message

    >
    > >news:[email protected]..

    >
    > > > A few days in Georgia celebrating Thanksgiving with family. We weren't
    > > > checking luggage, so I visited a store (Harry's Market) on our second
    > > > day and grabbed a couple bottles, plus my brother brought a couple to
    > > > Thursday's feast (though a Kistler chard was never opened). No wine
    > > > Tuesday, but Wednesday *Dad made a seafood casserole, and I opened
    > > > the *2007 de Villaine Bouzeron, an Aligote. Crisp, lemony, moderate
    > > > body, but with a slightly odd grassy/chemical note on nose. On day 2
    > > > that seems to blow off. Not bad once nose cleared, but in mid-$20s not
    > > > worth looking for. B-

    >
    > > > Thursday was of course the big day, and we had turkey, ham, dressing,
    > > > mac and cheese, potatoes, kohlrabi, rutabagas, Brussels sprouts, sweet
    > > > potatoes 2 ways, cranberry sauce and relish, salad, and a few things
    > > > I've forgotten. We started with a toast to my mom, who had a good
    > > > report on a scan this week (she's in chemo). Wine was the NV Aubry 1er
    > > > Cru Brut Champagne. Full framed, a touch austere, apples and yeast
    > > > rolls. Quite dry, good acids, I'm surprised when my CalChard loving
    > > > sister in law quite likes. I did , too! B+/A-

    >
    > > > Red was the 2007 Peter Michael L'Esprit de Pavots (is this the second
    > > > wine?). Big, lush, blueberry meets blackberry, vanilla cola notes. Not
    > > > really my style, but generous of my brother to bring. B-/C+

    >
    > > > We didn't open the 2009 Jadot-Beaujolais-Villages, but I opted to on
    > > > Friday night rather than continue with the Cali blend (dinner was of
    > > > course leftovers). I didn't have a lot of expectation from a huge
    > > > production BV, but this was actually pretty tasty- ripe red and black
    > > > cherries, a floral note, good acidity, just a hint of earth.
    > > > Unpretentious and straightforward, I'd buy this again. B

    >
    > > > I have to say that wine-buying in Georgia (in my limited experience)
    > > > is tough. There's one good (but expensive to my NY eyes) wine shop I
    > > > know of in area where my family lives (Hinton's, in Alpharetta) but
    > > > while close to my brother it's a good drive from my parents where we
    > > > were staying. Most wine is sold in grocery stores, and selection is
    > > > wide but shallow- tons of KJ, Smoking Loon, Yellowtail, etc with a few
    > > > higher end wines at "higher than I'm used to" prices (at all levels).
    > > > I shopped at Harry's Market, now owned by Whole Foods, which has an ok
    > > > selection, but again nosebleed prices. I chose the Aubry because it
    > > > was the one wine I thought both interesting and reasonably priced
    > > > ($35), the Villaine because I seldom see their wines around here, and
    > > > the Jadot because I had spent way too long in wine area and needed to
    > > > get out. I actually tried for an American wine for an American
    > > > holiday, but things I considered were so over-priced (Dashe Dry Creek
    > > > Zin was in low $30s) I couldn't pull trigger.

    >
    > > > Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent
    > > > wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't
    > > > drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no
    > > > promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.

    >
    > Mike,
    > I- Hide quoted text -
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    > - Show quoted text -


    Strange that you were not looking for any Reislings(Alsace) or Bandol
    Rose (goes good with Turkey and Ham). Surpisingly you were
    considering heavy reds. I never feel heavy reds work with Turkey,
    unless its an all dark meat turkey called DUCK. My place in Buckhead
    has a great wine selection near by. Some Publix's and some Krogers
    actually have wine stewards and they have great selections and decent
    pricing. One thing I find lacking in both Ga and NC where we live is
    decent Red Burgs. But then, thats not really a big selling in these
    markets. The distributors don't want to trip over themselves turning
    items into commodoties as in NYC. So I buy mine from NYC when I can
    get them. Sorry to hear about mom on Chemo...lots of that going
    around.

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