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Thread: TN: SOBER tastes Rhones, Bdx, Burg, etc

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    DaleW Guest

    Default TN: SOBER tastes Rhones, Bdx, Burg, etc


    Cathleen hosted SOBER last night, and did a fabulous job. She and Steve provided a great dinner, a succession of interesting and tasty wines, and a nice atmosphere for lively conversation. Somewhere between picking up Franco and David at the train station and sitting down to dinner I seemed to pull something in my neck, but I tried to pay attention despite that.

    All wines blind except for second Champagne

    Blind Champagne- toasty, full, fully mature. Definitely a drink up. John got 1990 quite quickly, it’s the 1990 Veuve Clicquot “La Grande Dame” B+/B

    Non-blind Champagne: 1996 Henriot- crisp, lively, lots left here. B+

    Red Flight #1 (with a delicious charcuterie plate- wild boar sausage, duck breast, proscuitto, and country pate)

    Wine #1 -a bit herby, clipped, I thought someone’s guess of Loire might be on correct track. Several length behind other wines in flight. I’m surprised when it turns out to be 2007 Jamet Cote-Rotie

    Wine # 2 - hint of merde, full, expressive, when revealed I’m surprised it’s that young, 2006 Jamet Cote-Rotie. B+

    Wine #3- Full, meat and smoky notes, couple of people immediately declared N. Rhone, elegant, long, very very nice. 1988 Jamet Cote-Rotie A-

    White intermezzo (single white )
    Clearly Riesling, petrol, just offdry, citrus and herb. I like. 1994 Schloss Schonborn Johannisberger Klaus Riesling Kabinett. B+


    White Flight (with an incredible dish of roasted salmon in a miso/dashi/yuzu broth with tomatoes and edamame)

    Wine #1- Some find this entering PremOx, I didn’t find much overt oxidation, but it’s ready, ripe white fruit, some interest but a bit ungainly with a touch of heat, 03 white Burg? 2006 Jadot Batard-Montrachet. B (I had liked this in a barrel tasting in 07)

    Wine # 2 - totally mature, not a lot of depth and complexity, but nice example of aged white Burg. 1990 Jadot Chassagne-Montrachet (pretty impressive for 22 year old negoce village wine!) B

    Red Flight #2

    Wine #1 - this has a pleasant edge of mint (some called eucalyptus) that had a couple of early calls for Cali. Power and elegance, complex and long. Due to green notes I suggested Sociando or Pichon Lalande, but she nixed Pauillac and St Estephe, so I guessed Graves and when she nodded then LMHB -I’m hot on the 4th guess
    1981 La Mission Haut Brion A-/B+

    Wine # 2- Plum, blackcurrant, cigarbox, a little animal edge. We knew Bordeaux but I missed with St. Julien guess. A little ferric mineral on end. Mark gets 1978 Montrose. A-

    Wine #3- flatter than flightmates, slightly lifted edge, outpaced in this flight. 1982 Cos d’Estournel. B-

    Red Flight #3
    Wine #1 - red fruit, lifted nose, meaty, David quickly guesses CdP. I likedmore than some others did. 1988 Beaucastel Chateaneuf-du-Pape. B/B+

    Wine # 2- lighter, floral, full and ripe but a tad clipped. 1988 Font de Michelle “Cuvee Etienne” Chateauneuf-du-Pape. B

    Wine #3- cherry, raisiny, some others like more than I did. 1985 Altesino Brunello di Montalcino. B-

    Bonus blind wine from Poland Springs bottle (brought by Paige)
    OK, maybe my tastebuds were shot by this, others liked, I thought it tastedold and not much else, I’d have thought a good showing if a basic 70s CalCab, a little disappointed to find it was the 1970 Latour (from Mag, opened at noon). B-/B

    Fun night, despite my stiff neck. Great food, interesting wine, interestingcompany.

    Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine,B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.

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    Bi!! Guest

    Default Re: TN: SOBER tastes Rhones, Bdx, Burg, etc

    On May 9, 12:23*pm, DaleW <Dwmi...@aol.com> wrote:
    > Cathleen hosted SOBER last night, and did a fabulous job. She and Steve provided a great dinner, a succession of interesting and tasty wines, and a nice atmosphere for lively conversation. Somewhere between picking up Franco and David at the train station and sitting down to dinner I seemed to pull something in my neck, but I tried to pay attention despite that.
    >
    > All wines blind except for second Champagne
    >
    > Blind Champagne- toasty, full, fully mature. Definitely a drink up. John got 1990 quite quickly, it’s the 1990 Veuve Clicquot “La Grande Dame”*B+/B
    >
    > Non-blind Champagne: *1996 Henriot- crisp, lively, lots left here. B+
    >
    > Red Flight #1 (with a delicious charcuterie plate- wild boar sausage, duck breast, proscuitto, and *country pate)
    >
    > Wine #1 -a bit herby, clipped, I thought someone’s guess of Loire mightbe on correct track. Several length behind other wines in flight. I’m surprised when it turns out to be 2007 Jamet Cote-Rotie
    >
    > Wine # 2 - hint of merde, full, expressive, when revealed I’m surprisedit’s that young, *2006 Jamet Cote-Rotie. B+
    >
    > Wine #3- Full, meat and smoky notes, couple of people immediately declared N. Rhone, elegant, long, very very nice. 1988 Jamet Cote-Rotie A-
    >
    > White intermezzo (single white )
    > Clearly Riesling, petrol, just offdry, citrus and herb. I like. 1994 Schloss Schonborn Johannisberger Klaus Riesling Kabinett. B+
    >
    > White Flight (with an incredible dish of roasted salmon in a miso/dashi/yuzu broth with tomatoes and edamame)
    >
    > Wine #1- Some find this entering PremOx, I didn’t find much overt oxidation, but it’s ready, ripe white fruit, some interest but a bit ungainly with a touch of heat, *03 white Burg? 2006 Jadot Batard-Montrachet. B (I had liked this in a barrel tasting in 07)
    >
    > Wine # 2 - totally mature, not a lot of depth and complexity, but nice example of aged white Burg. 1990 Jadot Chassagne-Montrachet (pretty impressive for 22 year old negoce village wine!) B
    >
    > Red Flight #2
    >
    > Wine #1 - this has a pleasant edge of mint (some called eucalyptus) that had a couple of early calls for Cali. Power and elegance, complex and long.Due to green notes I suggested Sociando or Pichon Lalande, but she nixed Pauillac and St Estephe, so I guessed Graves and when she nodded *then LMHB -I’m hot on the 4th guess
    > 1981 La Mission Haut Brion A-/B+
    >
    > Wine # 2- Plum, blackcurrant, cigarbox, a little animal edge. We knew Bordeaux but I missed with St. Julien guess. A little ferric mineral on end. Mark gets 1978 Montrose. A-
    >
    > Wine #3- flatter than flightmates, slightly lifted edge, outpaced in thisflight. 1982 Cos d’Estournel. B-
    >
    > Red Flight #3
    > Wine #1 - red fruit, lifted nose, meaty, David quickly guesses CdP. I liked more than some others did. 1988 Beaucastel Chateaneuf-du-Pape. B/B+
    >
    > Wine # 2- lighter, floral, full and ripe but a tad clipped. 1988 Font de Michelle “Cuvee Etienne” Chateauneuf-du-Pape. B
    >
    > Wine #3- cherry, raisiny, some others like more than I did. 1985 AltesinoBrunello di Montalcino. B-
    >
    > Bonus blind wine from Poland Springs bottle (brought by Paige)
    > OK, maybe my tastebuds were shot by this, others liked, I thought it tasted old and not much else, I’d have thought a good showing if a basic 70s CalCab, a little disappointed to find it was the 1970 Latour (from Mag, opened at noon). B-/B
    >
    > Fun night, despite my stiff neck. Great food, interesting wine, interesting company.
    >
    > Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.


    Thanks for the notes. Interesting take on the 2006 Jadot. Batard is
    my sweet spot so I pay particular attention to premox issues and I've
    had a lot with Jadot.

  3. #3
    Emery Davis Guest

    Default Re: TN: SOBER tastes Rhones, Bdx, Burg, etc

    On 05/09/2012 06:23 PM, DaleW wrote:
    > Wine # 2- lighter, floral, full and ripe but a tad clipped. 1988 Font
    > de Michelle “Cuvee Etienne” Chateauneuf-du-Pape. B


    This was a feminine year for FdM (among others). Time to drink, you think?

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