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    DaleW Guest

    Default TN: Rioja at Gotham- great night!

    Gotham Bar and Grill has been running a series of dinners, with a
    national theme- last night was Spain, and any Spanish wine was free
    corkage. Ramon organized a group for last night, and we had a great
    time. Food quality and service were outstanding, and I wished I had
    gone to some of the earlier evenings (Jacques had been to the French
    night and said food was extraordinary).

    While theme was Spain, it seemed what we decided to bring was mostly
    Rioja (and most of that Lopez de Heredia). I was worried that we
    didn't have enough whites, Jacques jumped into the breach by picking
    up a bottle recommended by Zachys. Ramon emailed the sommelier (Lacey)
    our *list of wines. This is where knowing the actual dish makes a
    difference- I was sceptical when she suggested the squid with some of
    the reds, but it actually worked well.


    1st course : Pan Con Tomate
    pickled onions, idiazabal cheese and serrano ham
    (really nice dish, I expected something like panzanella, this was more
    like bruscetta)

    1989 Lopez de Heredia Tondonia Rioja Reserva Blanco
    Nice, crisp,. drinking extremely well. Cherries and lemon, light nutty
    notes. B+

    1987 Lopez de Heredia Tondonia Rioja Gran Reserva Blanco
    I think this will eventually be a great wine, but for now it was in a
    bit of a shell. Big, canteloupe and citrus zest, dense. For now, B.

    1997 Lopez de Heredia Tondonia Rioja Gran Reserva Rosado
    Oranges, cherry, flowers. A distinct onion skin note. Good length. B/B
    +

    2006 Celler Bollidora Flor de Garnaxta
    Ripe, with an oily texture that reminds me of Southern Rhone whites.
    Herby, in a good way. Needs a bit more acid for my tastes. B/B-

    2nd course: Grilled Octopus
    pimientos de padrón, patatas bravas and aioli
    (the char on the octopus made it quite red friendly

    1976 Lopez de Heredia Bosconia Rioja Gran Reserva
    I got some brett when this was first opened, but within my tolerance
    level and it seemed to blow off (or I got acclimated). Sweet red
    cherry fruit, smoke, orange peel. B+/A-

    1981 Lopez de Heredia Bosconia Rioja Gran Reserva
    No brett but otherwise a similar flavor profile (I thought all of the
    LdH reds had a distinct citrus zest note), cherries and a little
    coffee. Earthy, long finish. I loved both of these wines, but gave
    this the edge for a little more depth and concentration. A-/B+

    3rd course
    Olive Oil Braised Cod
    cockles, merguez, bacalao and romesco sauce*
    (lovely, pretty good with red except the cockles begged for some
    white)

    1970 Lopez de Heredia Tondonia Rioja Gran Reserva
    My WOTN, against stiff competetion. Sweet raspberry and red plum
    fruit, smoke, blood oranges. Earth, leather, with a long finish.
    Saline/mineral notes on finish. Great wine. A/A-

    1973 Lopez de Heredia Tondonia Rioja Gran Reserva
    Between my handwriting and food stains, can't read some of my
    comments. But see aromatic, coffee, and tar. This was judged edged by
    the 70 in my grading for the night. A-


    4th course
    Grilled Lamb Chops
    chickpeas, escarole, lemon confit and salsa verde* *
    (too lemony to showcase the wines, and the tomatillo didn't help, but
    delicious)

    1985 La Rioja Alta 904 Rioja Gran Reserva*
    Solid and tasty, kirsch, cedar, and herbs. B/B+

    1997 La Rioja Alta 904 Rioja Gran Reserva
    This caused some discussion over whether it was modern. My position
    was it is young and from a ripe year, but I'd still call it
    tradtional. Fruity but with some complexity, stood up to the chops. B+

    2001 San Vicente Rioja
    This edges closer to modernity, but not over the top. Ripe red fruits
    and some serious mocha notes, but good tangy acids and nice length. B+/
    B

    Arroz con Leche
    marcona almonds and sangria sorbet

    Really an excellent night. Not a wine that I wouldn't be happy to
    drink again. Thanks to Ramon for organizing, and it was delightful to
    see Jacques, Ian, Matt, and Ren again.

    Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an
    excellent*wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I
    wouldn't*drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I
    offer no*promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of
    consistency.**

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    DaleW Guest

    Default Re: TN: Rioja at Gotham- great night!

    On Mar 9, 8:59*am, DaleW <Dwmi...@aol.com> wrote:
    > Gotham Bar and Grill has been running *a series of dinners, with a
    > national theme- last night was Spain, and any Spanish wine was free
    > corkage. Ramon organized a group for last night, and we had a great
    > time. Food quality and service were outstanding, and I wished I had
    > gone *to some of the earlier evenings (Jacques had been to the French
    > night and said food was extraordinary).
    >
    > While theme was Spain, it seemed what we decided to bring was mostly
    > Rioja (and most of that Lopez de Heredia). I was worried that we
    > didn't have enough whites, Jacques jumped into the breach by picking
    > up a bottle recommended by Zachys. Ramon emailed the sommelier (Lacey)
    > our *list of wines. This is where knowing the actual dish makes a
    > difference- I was sceptical when she suggested the squid with some of
    > the reds, but it actually worked well.
    >
    > 1st course : Pan Con Tomate
    > pickled onions, idiazabal cheese and serrano ham
    > (really nice dish, I expected something like panzanella, this was more
    > like bruscetta)
    >
    > 1989 Lopez de Heredia Tondonia Rioja Reserva *Blanco
    > Nice, crisp,. drinking extremely well. Cherries and lemon, light nutty
    > notes. B+
    >
    > 1987 Lopez de Heredia Tondonia Rioja Gran Reserva *Blanco
    > I think this will eventually be a great wine, but for now it was in a
    > bit of a shell. Big, canteloupe and citrus zest, dense. For now, B.
    >
    > 1997 Lopez de Heredia Tondonia Rioja Gran Reserva Rosado
    > Oranges, cherry, flowers. A distinct onion skin note. Good length. B/B
    > +
    >
    > 2006 Celler Bollidora Flor de Garnaxta
    > Ripe, with an oily texture that reminds me of Southern Rhone whites.
    > Herby, in a good way. Needs a bit more acid for my tastes. B/B-
    >
    > 2nd course: Grilled Octopus
    > pimientos de padrón, patatas bravas and aioli
    > (the char on the octopus made it quite red friendly
    >
    > 1976 Lopez de Heredia Bosconia Rioja Gran Reserva
    > I got some brett when this was first opened, but within my tolerance
    > level and it seemed to blow off (or I got acclimated). Sweet red
    > cherry fruit, smoke, orange peel. B+/A-
    >
    > 1981 Lopez de Heredia Bosconia Rioja Gran Reserva
    > No brett but otherwise a similar flavor profile (I thought all of the
    > LdH reds had a distinct citrus zest note), cherries and a little
    > coffee. Earthy, long finish. I loved both of these wines, but gave
    > this the edge for a little more depth and concentration. A-/B+
    >
    > 3rd course
    > Olive Oil Braised Cod
    > cockles, merguez, bacalao and romesco sauce*
    > (lovely, pretty good with red except the cockles begged for some
    > white)
    >
    > 1970 Lopez de Heredia Tondonia Rioja Gran Reserva
    > My WOTN, against stiff competetion. Sweet raspberry and red plum
    > fruit, smoke, blood oranges. Earth, leather, with a *long finish.
    > Saline/mineral notes on finish. Great wine. A/A-
    >
    > 1973 Lopez de Heredia Tondonia Rioja Gran Reserva
    > Between my handwriting and food stains, can't read some of my
    > comments. But see aromatic, coffee, and tar. This was judged edged by
    > the 70 in my grading for the night. A-
    >
    > 4th course
    > Grilled Lamb Chops
    > chickpeas, escarole, lemon confit and salsa verde* *
    > (too lemony to showcase the wines, and the tomatillo didn't help, but
    > delicious)
    >
    > 1985 La Rioja Alta 904 Rioja Gran Reserva*
    > Solid and tasty, kirsch, cedar, and herbs. B/B+
    >
    > 1997 La Rioja Alta 904 Rioja Gran Reserva
    > This caused some discussion over whether it was modern. My position
    > was it is young and from a ripe year, but I'd still call it
    > tradtional. Fruity but with some complexity, stood up to the chops. B+
    >
    > 2001 San Vicente Rioja
    > This edges closer to modernity, but not over the top. Ripe red fruits
    > and some serious mocha notes, but good tangy acids and nice length. B+/
    > B
    >
    > Arroz con Leche
    > marcona almonds and sangria sorbet
    >
    > Really an excellent night. Not a wine that I wouldn't be happy to
    > drink again. Thanks to Ramon for organizing, and it was delightful to
    > see Jacques, Ian, Matt, and Ren again.
    >
    > Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an
    > excellent*wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I
    > wouldn't*drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I
    > offer no*promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of
    > consistency.**


    Ian provided the totals of our group voting (everyone votes for their
    top 3, with 3 votes for 1st, 2 2nd, 1 3rd)
    73 Tondonia 13 points
    70 Tondonia 10
    76 Bosconia 5
    87 Tondonia Blanco 4
    97 La Rioja Alta 2
    81 Bosconia 1
    01 San Vicente 1

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