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  1. #1
    Mark Lipton Guest

    Default [TN] QPR CdR

    Tonight, with a light dinner of gazpacho and sandwiches, we opened:

    2007 Dom. d'Andézon Cotes du Rhone ($9.99)
    nose: brambly dark fruit, minerals
    palate: medium body, firm acidic backbone, brightly fruity

    This wine, produced by the Caves Cooperative of Estézargues and imported
    by Eric Solomon, is atypical for a CdR in its falvor profile. Instead
    of the usual dark cherry profile for Grenache-dominated wines, this one
    had a much darker fruit element, but also higher acidity and lighter
    body. Though I don't know its encepagement, I suspect from its flavors
    that it may be something slightly different from the typical GSM blend
    -- more Cinsaut or something? And have I yet mentioned how much I love
    the '07 vintage in France (and Germany and Austria...)?

    Mark Lipton
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  2. #2
    DaleW Guest

    Default Re: QPR CdR

    On Sep 9, 1:14*am, Mark Lipton <not...@eudrup.ude> wrote:
    > Tonight, with a light dinner of gazpacho and sandwiches, we opened:
    >
    > 2007 Dom. d'Andézon Cotes du Rhone ($9.99)
    > nose: brambly dark fruit, minerals
    > palate: medium body, firm acidic backbone, brightly fruity
    >
    > This wine, produced by the Caves Cooperative of Estézargues and imported
    > by Eric Solomon, is atypical for a CdR in its falvor profile. *Instead
    > of the usual dark cherry profile for Grenache-dominated wines, this one
    > had a much darker fruit element, but also higher acidity and lighter
    > body. *Though I don't know its encepagement, I suspect from its flavors
    > that it may be something slightly different from the typical GSM blend
    > -- more Cinsaut or something? *And have I yet mentioned how much I love
    > the '07 vintage in France (and Germany and Austria...)?
    >
    > Mark Lipton
    > --
    > alt.food.wine FAQ: *http://winefaq.cwdjr.net


    Haven't had the 07, but I thought the Andezon CdR was 100% Syrah?
    Generally a good bargain

  3. #3
    Mark Lipton Guest

    Default Re: QPR CdR

    DaleW wrote:

    > Haven't had the 07, but I thought the Andezon CdR was 100% Syrah?
    > Generally a good bargain


    You may well be right, Dale. I know that they do produce a 100% Syrah
    cuvée, as well as a 100% Grenache one, but are they labeled as such?
    This one was a generic CdR and I couldn't find much support on the Web
    for the 100% Syrah view (aside from Astor's website).

    Mark Lipton


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    DaleW Guest

    Default Re: QPR CdR

    On Sep 9, 10:16*am, Mark Lipton <not...@eudrup.ude> wrote:
    > DaleW wrote:
    > > Haven't had the 07, but I thought the Andezon CdR was 100% Syrah?
    > > Generally a good bargain

    >
    > You may well be right, Dale. *I know that they do produce a 100% Syrah
    > cuvée, as well as a 100% Grenache one, but are they labeled as such?
    > This one was a generic CdR and I couldn't find much support on the Web
    > for the 100% Syrah view (aside from Astor's website).
    >
    > Mark Lipton
    >
    > --
    > alt.food.wine FAQ: *http://winefaq.cwdjr.net


    pretty sure that ones I remember were jst labelled CdR, but maybe
    mentioned all Syrah on back label. But been a few years

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    DaleW Guest

    Default Re: QPR CdR

    On Sep 9, 10:23*am, DaleW <Dwmi...@aol.com> wrote:
    > On Sep 9, 10:16*am, Mark Lipton <not...@eudrup.ude> wrote:
    >
    > > DaleW wrote:
    > > > Haven't had the 07, but I thought the Andezon CdR was 100% Syrah?
    > > > Generally a good bargain

    >
    > > You may well be right, Dale. *I know that they do produce a 100% Syrah
    > > cuvée, as well as a 100% Grenache one, but are they labeled as such?
    > > This one was a generic CdR and I couldn't find much support on the Web
    > > for the 100% Syrah view (aside from Astor's website).

    >
    > > Mark Lipton

    >
    > > --
    > > alt.food.wine FAQ: *http://winefaq.cwdjr.net

    >
    > pretty sure that ones I remember were jst labelled CdR, but maybe
    > mentioned all Syrah on back label. But been a few years


    OK according to Solomon 90% Syrah, 10% Grenache
    http://www.europeancellars.com/portfolio_detail.cfm

    The 2001 was 100% syrah (and I had one that lasted till 2007), and I
    found my note for the 2004, said "Syrah based " (but obviously I knew
    from 01).

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    Anders Tørneskog Guest

    Default Re: [TN] QPR CdR


    "Mark Lipton" <[email protected]> skrev i melding
    news:h87dj9$j4$[email protected]..
    > Tonight, with a light dinner of gazpacho and sandwiches, we opened:
    >
    > 2007 Dom. d'Andézon Cotes du Rhone ($9.99)
    > nose: brambly dark fruit, minerals
    > palate: medium body, firm acidic backbone, brightly fruity
    >
    > This wine, produced by the Caves Cooperative of Estézargues and imported
    > by Eric Solomon, is atypical for a CdR in its falvor profile. Instead
    > of the usual dark cherry profile for Grenache-dominated wines, this one
    > had a much darker fruit element, but also higher acidity and lighter
    > body. Though I don't know its encepagement, I suspect from its flavors
    > that it may be something slightly different from the typical GSM blend
    > -- more Cinsaut or something?

    From www.wine.com
    A blend of 90% Syrah (40-year old vines) and 10% Grenache (60-year old
    vines), the tank-fermented and aged 2007 Cotes du Rhone exhibits sweet
    blackberry and cassis fruit interwoven with notions of spring flowers,
    licorice, and road tar

    Anders



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    Mark Lipton Guest

    Default Re: [TN] QPR CdR

    Anders Tørneskog wrote:

    > From www.wine.com
    > A blend of 90% Syrah (40-year old vines) and 10% Grenache (60-year old
    > vines), the tank-fermented and aged 2007 Cotes du Rhone exhibits sweet
    > blackberry and cassis fruit interwoven with notions of spring flowers,
    > licorice, and road tar


    Thanks, Anders. 90/10 it is. I must say that Syrah from the S Rhone
    bears little resemblance to the wines made in the N Rhone. Terroir indeed!

    Mark Lipton

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    Mike Tommasi Guest

    Default Re: [TN] QPR CdR

    Mark Lipton wrote:
    > Tonight, with a light dinner of gazpacho and sandwiches, we opened:
    >
    > 2007 Dom. d'Andézon Cotes du Rhone ($9.99)
    > nose: brambly dark fruit, minerals
    > palate: medium body, firm acidic backbone, brightly fruity
    >
    > This wine, produced by the Caves Cooperative of Estézargues and imported
    > by Eric Solomon, is atypical for a CdR in its falvor profile. Instead
    > of the usual dark cherry profile for Grenache-dominated wines, this one
    > had a much darker fruit element, but also higher acidity and lighter
    > body. Though I don't know its encepagement, I suspect from its flavors
    > that it may be something slightly different from the typical GSM blend
    > -- more Cinsaut or something? And have I yet mentioned how much I love
    > the '07 vintage in France (and Germany and Austria...)?


    Ah yes, that is without a doubt one the best wine coops in France. It
    used to be run by Jean Francois Nicq, now running the Domaine des
    Foulards Rouges in Roussillon area. He makes definitely "low
    intervention" wines, no sulphur, that kind of thing. The coop has stuck
    to those principles, plus all cooperators bottle their wines under their
    own label. Prices at the coop vary between 4-7€ a bottle. I occasionally
    by a 5l box of their rosé, which is quite fine for summers here.

    I drove to Tavel the other day, but had no time to go to the coop, I was
    picking up a few cases of Domaine de la Mordorée. These guys are amazing
    because despite having one day received notice from Parker that he gave
    their CdP a 100, so despite their CdP costing in the 30€ range (with a
    special cuvée of 1700 bottles at least double that price), they still
    make some fine little wines around 4-6€. I stocked up on their
    delicious Tavel, Lirac and CdP.



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    Mike Tommasi - Six Fours, France
    email link http://www.tommasi.org/mymail

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