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  1. #1
    DaleW Guest

    Default TN: Good showings, except one corked wine

    Mostly me cooking this week, Betsy has been playing a ballet gig where
    rehearsals end at 7, so we've had late dinners, on the patio in the lovely cool weather.

    With broiled lemon sole, cauliflower with pimenton, snow peas and salad, the
    2008 Drouhin Vaudon (Joseph Drouhin) Chablis 1er Cru.
    This is a generic 1er, a combination of Mont de Tonnerre, Mont Milieu,
    and 2 vineyards I'd never heard of. Crisp, steely, a bit austere at first
    but opens up. Classy, minerally, very good. B+

    With grilled tofu 2 ways (one in a kecap manis sauce, other in a lemon marinade),
    corn, asparagus, and pizza Margherita, the NV Pinon Touraine Rose
    and the X bottling of the Marcel Lapierre Raisins Gaulois.

    The NV Pinon is the newest release,the 2007 version. Sweet red fruit
    with an attractive bitter streak, very nice wine but I think I liked the
    previous version a tad better (heretic!). B

    NV (2010) Lapierre "X" Raisins Gaulois. Joy juice! UNcomplicated, fresh,
    friendly, fun. Bright berry and black cherry fruit, good acids, holds well
    overnight, at least as good as the IX for me. B+

    With grilled lemon/basil chicken, potato salad, and hot & sour coleslaw,
    the 2008 Fourrier Bourgogne Blanc. At first pour I think Craig has oversold
    this to me- it seems austere and tight. But with food this showed quite
    nicely- intense citrus fruit, no apparent oak but plenty of apparent
    structure, lovely wine. I think I might hold these and concentrate on
    drinking my 09 Pernots, which seem more forward. Great suggestion
    from Craig. B+/A-

    Dave prefers red, so there was also the 2009 G. Descombes Morgon.
    He drinks a glass, I take a small pour after dinner- muted, not showing
    much at all. I assume it is closed down, but when I sample the folllowing
    day, the real issue is apparent- it's corked. Apparently just below my
    sensory threshold for TCA on day 1, just "fruit scalping" but the damp
    cardboard is there in background on day 2. NR

    With pork tenderloin in a mustard/soy/tamarind sauce (I admit it,
    loosely based on a Paula Deen recipe- the horror!), whole wheat pearl
    couscous, and leftover slaw, the 2009 JJ Christoffel Erben
    "Urziger Wurzgarten" Riesling Kabinett. Big, sweet, could easily be Spatlese,
    but has truly zippy acidity. Peaches, cherries, good length, very nice wine. B+/A-

    Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine,B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.

  2. #2
    Ed Rasimus Guest

    Default Re: TN: Good showings, except one corked wine

    On Sun, 5 Jun 2011 10:41:41 -0700 (PDT), DaleW <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >Mostly me cooking this week, Betsy has been playing a ballet gig where
    >rehearsals end at 7, so we've had late dinners, on the patio in the lovely cool weather.
    >
    >With broiled lemon sole, cauliflower with pimenton, snow peas and salad, the
    >2008 Drouhin Vaudon (Joseph Drouhin) Chablis 1er Cru.
    >This is a generic 1er, a combination of Mont de Tonnerre, Mont Milieu,
    >and 2 vineyards I'd never heard of. Crisp, steely, a bit austere at first
    >but opens up. Classy, minerally, very good. B+
    >
    >With grilled tofu 2 ways (one in a kecap manis sauce, other in a lemon marinade),
    >corn, asparagus, and pizza Margherita, the NV Pinon Touraine Rose
    >and the X bottling of the Marcel Lapierre Raisins Gaulois.
    >
    >The NV Pinon is the newest release,the 2007 version. Sweet red fruit
    >with an attractive bitter streak, very nice wine but I think I liked the
    >previous version a tad better (heretic!). B
    >
    >NV (2010) Lapierre "X" Raisins Gaulois. Joy juice! UNcomplicated, fresh,
    >friendly, fun. Bright berry and black cherry fruit, good acids, holds well
    > overnight, at least as good as the IX for me. B+
    >
    >With grilled lemon/basil chicken, potato salad, and hot & sour coleslaw,
    >the 2008 Fourrier Bourgogne Blanc. At first pour I think Craig has oversold
    > this to me- it seems austere and tight. But with food this showed quite
    >nicely- intense citrus fruit, no apparent oak but plenty of apparent
    >structure, lovely wine. I think I might hold these and concentrate on
    >drinking my 09 Pernots, which seem more forward. Great suggestion
    >from Craig. B+/A-
    >
    >Dave prefers red, so there was also the 2009 G. Descombes Morgon.
    > He drinks a glass, I take a small pour after dinner- muted, not showing
    >much at all. I assume it is closed down, but when I sample the folllowing
    > day, the real issue is apparent- it's corked. Apparently just below my
    >sensory threshold for TCA on day 1, just "fruit scalping" but the damp
    >cardboard is there in background on day 2. NR
    >
    >With pork tenderloin in a mustard/soy/tamarind sauce (I admit it,
    > loosely based on a Paula Deen recipe- the horror!), whole wheat pearl
    > couscous, and leftover slaw, the 2009 JJ Christoffel Erben
    > "Urziger Wurzgarten" Riesling Kabinett. Big, sweet, could easily be Spatlese,
    > but has truly zippy acidity. Peaches, cherries, good length, very nice wine. B+/A-
    >

    Arrgghhh! Based on your positives I went searching for "Raisins
    Galois" (which unfortunately sounds like a red wine gone bad with a
    strong cigarette floating in it), and found the only dealers on
    wine-searcher.com which have it don't ship to Texas. I hate you! (Not
    really, but occasionally there are pangs of incredible envy.)


  3. #3
    santiago Guest

    Default Re: TN: Good showings, except one corked wine

    DaleW <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]ps.
    com:
    the 2009 JJ Christoffel Erben
    > "Urziger Wurzgarten" Riesling Kabinett. Big, sweet, could easily be
    > Spatlese, but has truly zippy acidity. Peaches, cherries, good
    > length, very nice wine. B+/A-


    Most wines sold as Kabinetts fit in the definition of Spatlese, at least
    when it comes to must weight (and specially from top sites such as Urziger
    Wurzgarten). 2004 and 2008 are the last vintages that allowed for some real
    Kabinetts lately.

    Best,

    s.

  4. #4
    [email protected] Guest

    Default Re: TN: Good showings, except one corked wine

    On Jun 5, 4:24*pm, Ed Rasimus <rasimusSPAML...@verizon.net> wrote:
    > On Sun, 5 Jun 2011 10:41:41 -0700 (PDT), DaleW <Dwmi...@aol.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > >Mostly me cooking this week, Betsy has been playing a ballet gig where
    > >rehearsals end at 7, so we've had late dinners, on the patio in the lovely cool weather. *

    >
    > >With broiled lemon sole, cauliflower with pimenton, snow peas and salad,the
    > >2008 Drouhin Vaudon (Joseph Drouhin) Chablis 1er Cru.
    > >This is a generic 1er, a combination of Mont de Tonnerre, Mont Milieu,
    > >and 2 vineyards I'd never heard of. Crisp, steely, a bit austere at first
    > >but opens up. Classy, minerally, very good. B+

    >
    > >With grilled tofu 2 ways (one in a kecap manis sauce, other in a lemon marinade),
    > >corn, asparagus, and pizza Margherita, the NV Pinon Touraine Rose
    > >and the X bottling of the Marcel Lapierre Raisins Gaulois.

    >
    > >The NV Pinon is the newest release,the 2007 version. Sweet red fruit
    > >with an attractive bitter streak, very *nice wine but I think I liked the
    > >previous version a tad better (heretic!). B

    >
    > >NV (2010) Lapierre "X" Raisins Gaulois. Joy juice! UNcomplicated, fresh,
    > >friendly, fun. Bright berry *and black cherry fruit, good acids, holdswell
    > > overnight, at least as good as the IX for me. B+

    >
    > >With grilled lemon/basil chicken, potato salad, and hot & sour coleslaw,
    > >the 2008 Fourrier Bourgogne Blanc. At first pour I think Craig has oversold
    > > this to me- it seems austere and tight. But with food this showed quite
    > >nicely- intense citrus fruit, no apparent oak but plenty of apparent
    > >structure, lovely wine. I think I might hold these and concentrate on
    > >drinking my 09 Pernots, which seem more forward. Great suggestion
    > >from Craig. B+/A-

    >
    > >Dave prefers red, so there was also the 2009 G. Descombes Morgon.
    > > He drinks a glass, I take a small pour after dinner- muted, not showing
    > >much at all. I assume it is closed down, but when I sample the folllowing
    > > day, the real issue is apparent- it's corked. Apparently just below my
    > >sensory threshold for TCA on day 1, just "fruit scalping" but the damp
    > >cardboard is there in background on day 2. NR

    >
    > >With pork tenderloin in a mustard/soy/tamarind sauce (I admit it,
    > > loosely based on a Paula Deen recipe- the horror!), whole wheat pearl
    > > couscous, and leftover slaw, the 2009 JJ Christoffel Erben
    > > "Urziger Wurzgarten" Riesling Kabinett. Big, sweet, could easily be Spatlese,
    > > but has truly zippy acidity. Peaches, cherries, good length, very nice wine. B+/A-

    >
    > Arrgghhh! Based on your positives I went searching for "Raisins
    > Galois" (which unfortunately sounds like a red wine gone bad with a
    > strong cigarette floating in it), and found the only dealers on
    > wine-searcher.com which have it don't ship to Texas. I hate you! (Not
    > really, but occasionally there are pangs of incredible envy.)- Hide quoted text -
    >
    > - Show quoted text -


    Someone posted this recently on another forum:
    http://www.tabc.state.tx.us/home/pre...1/20110603.asp

    Sorry!

  5. #5
    Ed Rasimus Guest

    Default Re: TN: Good showings, except one corked wine

    On Mon, 6 Jun 2011 05:48:55 -0700 (PDT), "[email protected]"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Jun 5, 4:24*pm, Ed Rasimus <rasimusSPAML...@verizon.net> wrote:
    >> On Sun, 5 Jun 2011 10:41:41 -0700 (PDT), DaleW <Dwmi...@aol.com>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> >Mostly me cooking this week, Betsy has been playing a ballet gig where
    >> >rehearsals end at 7, so we've had late dinners, on the patio in the lovely cool weather. *

    >>
    >> >With broiled lemon sole, cauliflower with pimenton, snow peas and salad, the
    >> >2008 Drouhin Vaudon (Joseph Drouhin) Chablis 1er Cru.
    >> >This is a generic 1er, a combination of Mont de Tonnerre, Mont Milieu,
    >> >and 2 vineyards I'd never heard of. Crisp, steely, a bit austere at first
    >> >but opens up. Classy, minerally, very good. B+

    >>
    >> >With grilled tofu 2 ways (one in a kecap manis sauce, other in a lemon marinade),
    >> >corn, asparagus, and pizza Margherita, the NV Pinon Touraine Rose
    >> >and the X bottling of the Marcel Lapierre Raisins Gaulois.

    >>
    >> >The NV Pinon is the newest release,the 2007 version. Sweet red fruit
    >> >with an attractive bitter streak, very *nice wine but I think I liked the
    >> >previous version a tad better (heretic!). B

    >>
    >> >NV (2010) Lapierre "X" Raisins Gaulois. Joy juice! UNcomplicated, fresh,
    >> >friendly, fun. Bright berry *and black cherry fruit, good acids, holds well
    >> > overnight, at least as good as the IX for me. B+

    >>
    >> >With grilled lemon/basil chicken, potato salad, and hot & sour coleslaw,
    >> >the 2008 Fourrier Bourgogne Blanc. At first pour I think Craig has oversold
    >> > this to me- it seems austere and tight. But with food this showed quite
    >> >nicely- intense citrus fruit, no apparent oak but plenty of apparent
    >> >structure, lovely wine. I think I might hold these and concentrate on
    >> >drinking my 09 Pernots, which seem more forward. Great suggestion
    >> >from Craig. B+/A-

    >>
    >> >Dave prefers red, so there was also the 2009 G. Descombes Morgon.
    >> > He drinks a glass, I take a small pour after dinner- muted, not showing
    >> >much at all. I assume it is closed down, but when I sample the folllowing
    >> > day, the real issue is apparent- it's corked. Apparently just below my
    >> >sensory threshold for TCA on day 1, just "fruit scalping" but the damp
    >> >cardboard is there in background on day 2. NR

    >>
    >> >With pork tenderloin in a mustard/soy/tamarind sauce (I admit it,
    >> > loosely based on a Paula Deen recipe- the horror!), whole wheat pearl
    >> > couscous, and leftover slaw, the 2009 JJ Christoffel Erben
    >> > "Urziger Wurzgarten" Riesling Kabinett. Big, sweet, could easily be Spatlese,
    >> > but has truly zippy acidity. Peaches, cherries, good length, very nice wine. B+/A-

    >>
    >> Arrgghhh! Based on your positives I went searching for "Raisins
    >> Galois" (which unfortunately sounds like a red wine gone bad with a
    >> strong cigarette floating in it), and found the only dealers on
    >> wine-searcher.com which have it don't ship to Texas. I hate you! (Not
    >> really, but occasionally there are pangs of incredible envy.)- Hide quoted text -
    >>
    >> - Show quoted text -

    >
    >Someone posted this recently on another forum:
    >http://www.tabc.state.tx.us/home/pre...1/20110603.asp
    >
    >Sorry!


    Not quite as bad as that paints it. The law prohibits "retailers" from
    shipping into the state, but has no difficulty with wineries shipping
    directly. There is also a twist which many outlets use which specifies
    that the purchaser is "taking possession" within their state and then
    having it shipped to themselves. Hard to contest that and in large
    measure the state doesn't try.

    Another restriction is a limit of one case per month for private
    consumption. That, of course, is impossible to regulate without
    considerable intrusion into UPS/FEDEX data and a lot of tracking
    effort. Never encountered a challenge based on that restriction.

    Usually I can find what I seek and a willing outlet to ship to me.

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