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    DaleW Guest

    Default TN: good not great Donnhoff

    Last night Betsy made "Danny Kaye's chicken salad" (recipe is
    supposedly the actor's , very good). I've liked Riesling with this,
    and since I saw some recent notes on '03s drinking well I thought it a
    good time for my lone remainingbottle of 2003 Donnhoff Oberhauser
    Leistenberg Kabinett. This had not been my favorite at release;it's
    actually the last '03 Kab I own. OK, let's see. Fairly sweet, rather
    round, this is more like a heavy softer Spatlese than a Kab. Good
    flavor profile- sweet peaches, a little lime, some herby notes (almost
    rosemary). But this just doesn't have the acidity to be great. Not
    flabby, but sodt. The 2003s I've liked tend to be more on Auslese
    level, where I'm already looking for richness. Still, this is good
    wine if not Donnhoff great (and I like better than on release). B

    Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent
    wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't
    drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no
    promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.*

    *

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    Ken Blake Guest

    Default Re: TN: good not great Donnhoff

    On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:41:42 -0700 (PDT), DaleW <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    > Last night Betsy made "Danny Kaye's chicken salad" (recipe is
    > supposedly the actor's , very good).



    I don't know that recipe, but I wouldn't be surprised to know that the
    recipe was his. He was very well known as an excellent cook, primarily
    cooking Chinese food.


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  3. #3
    DaleW Guest

    Default Re: TN: good not great Donnhoff

    On Jul 30, 2:07*pm, Ken Blake <kbl...@this.is.an.invalid.domain>
    wrote:
    > On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:41:42 -0700 (PDT), DaleW <Dwmi...@aol.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    > > Last night Betsy made "Danny Kaye's chicken salad" (recipe is
    > > supposedly the actor's , very good).

    >
    > I don't know that recipe, but I wouldn't be surprised to know that the
    > recipe was his. He was very well known as an excellent cook, primarily
    > cooking Chinese food.
    >
    > --
    > Ken Blake
    > Please Reply to the Newsgroup


    Yes, I think it came from Jacques Pepin, who was his friend. I believe
    the other star of the era who was supposed to be a cook/foodie was
    Vincent Price. I think we posted this recipe here before, but I can't
    tell, because for last couple weeks Google Groups seems to return only
    recent posts in searches. It's worth posting again, as it's really
    easy.

    Danny Kaye's Poached Chicken Salad

    1 chicken (about 3 1/2 lbs)
    1/2 cup sliced carrot
    1 cup sliced onion
    1 small leek, washed and left whole
    1 rib celery, washed and left whole
    1 tsp salt
    1/4 tsp. black peppercorns
    2 sprigs thyme
    2 bay leaves


    Dressing:
    2 tablespoons Dijon mustard
    1 tablespoon white wine vinigar
    1 teaspoon finely chopped garlic
    1/4 teaspoon salt
    1/4 teaspoon freshly ground black pepper
    1/2 teaspoon Tabasco
    5 tablespoons extra-virgen olive oil


    Boston lettuce leaves
    2 dozen fresh tarragon leaves.
    ___________________________________

    1. For the chicken: place the chicken breast side down in a tall,
    narrow pot, so it fits snugly at the bottom. Add the remaining
    poaching ingredients. Chicken should be submerged, water should extend
    about 1" above it. Bring to gentle boil, cover, and let boil gently
    for 10 minutes. Remove the pot from heat and set it aside to steep in
    the hot broth for 45 minutes.

    2. Remove the chicken from the pot and set it aside on a platter to
    cool for a few minutes. Pick the meat from the chicken bones,
    discarding the skin, bones and fat. Shred the meat with your fingers,
    following the grain and pulling it into strips.

    3. Mix together all the dressing ingredients in a bowl large enough
    to hold the chicken salad.

    4. Add the chicken shreds to the dressing and toss well. Serve on
    lettuce leaves, sprinkle with the tarragon leaves and serve.


    Betsy actually does 2 chickens, as all 3 of us are happy to have
    leftovers for lunch. Plus I took poaching broth and veggies and froze
    at office, when we need soup for homeless this fall makes a nice base.

  4. #4
    Ken Blake Guest

    Default Re: TN: good not great Donnhoff

    On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:42:16 -0700 (PDT), DaleW <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    > On Jul 30, 2:07*pm, Ken Blake <kbl...@this.is.an.invalid.domain>
    > wrote:
    > > On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:41:42 -0700 (PDT), DaleW <Dwmi...@aol.com>
    > > wrote:
    > >
    > > > Last night Betsy made "Danny Kaye's chicken salad" (recipe is
    > > > supposedly the actor's , very good).

    > >
    > > I don't know that recipe, but I wouldn't be surprised to know that the
    > > recipe was his. He was very well known as an excellent cook, primarily
    > > cooking Chinese food.
    > >
    > > --
    > > Ken Blake
    > > Please Reply to the Newsgroup

    >
    > Yes, I think it came from Jacques Pepin, who was his friend. I believe
    > the other star of the era who was supposed to be a cook/foodie was
    > Vincent Price. I think we posted this recipe here before, but I can't
    > tell, because for last couple weeks Google Groups seems to return only
    > recent posts in searches. It's worth posting again, as it's really
    > easy.



    Thanks for the recipe, and thanks for the info about Vincent Price,
    which I didn't know.

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    Anders TÝrneskog Guest

    Default Re: good not great Donnhoff


    "DaleW" <[email protected]> skrev i melding
    news:[email protected]..
    good time for my lone remainingbottle of 2003 Donnhoff Oberhauser
    Leistenberg Kabinett. This had not been my favorite at release;it's
    actually the last '03 Kab I own. OK, let's see. Fairly sweet, rather
    round, this is more like a heavy softer Spatlese than a Kab. Good
    flavor profile- sweet peaches, a little lime, some herby notes (almost
    rosemary). But this just doesn't have the acidity to be great. Not
    flabby, but sodt. ...

    The Wein-plus rated it excellent in 2004: Bouquet of minerals, sweet herbs,
    citrus fruits and peaches. Very clear and juicy, fine acidity, mineral
    backbone, somewhat reticent on the palate, very harmonious with fine end
    taste. Keep 2 years and drink by the caseload... Drink until 2009.

    I'd tend to agree with you on the low acidity in general for 2003 wines,
    however.

    Anders



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