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Thread: TN: Champagne, Val d'Aosta, Anderson Valley, Santa Ynez

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    DaleW Guest

    Default TN: Champagne, Val d'Aosta, Anderson Valley, Santa Ynez

    Was supposed to hang with some friends Friday, but host was sick, so I stopped by market for some fish. With swordfish, broccoli,& grilled corn, the2008 Les Cretes “Cuvee Bois” Chardonnay. I liked this more on a previous try- the oak seemed less integrated with a bit more bottle age. Good acids, full bodied, but despite the acids some buttery notes, and an overlay of vanillla B-

    With roast chicken, squash, caprese, & green salad, the 2009 Copain “tous Ensemble” Pinot Noir (Anderson Valley). I found this rather disappointing at first- some interesting red fruit and smoke, but thin and disjointed,I actually switched to leftover rose for the meal. But I liked much betterafter a couple hours of air (and it showed fine on day 2 as well). Light to medium body but with ample red fruits, mineral, smoke notes. B+/B

    On a gorgeous Sunday, I had Ahi steak, green beans with tomatoes, and leftover squash, with the 2012 Stolpman Rose (Santa Ynez) Crisp, fresh, lighterstyled, I’d buy again. B/B+

    Monday Betsy was finally home for good after a peripatetic summer, she said she would take care of dinner. I was a bit perplexed by the ham and arugula canapes, sushi, and baby bok choy combination (turned out she was teasing me about a dream I had reported- and since forgotten). I opened the NV Paul Clouet Grand Cru Brut Champagne to celebrate her return. Big, toasty, a touch oxidative, this is not really my preferred style of Champagne, sure others would like more. . B-


    Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine,B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.

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    Bi!! Guest

    Default Re: TN: Champagne, Val d'Aosta, Anderson Valley, Santa Ynez

    On Tuesday, August 27, 2013 2:13:46 PM UTC-4, DaleW wrote:
    > Was supposed to hang with some friends Friday, but host was sick, so I stopped by market for some fish. With swordfish, broccoli,& grilled corn, the 2008 Les Cretes “Cuvee Bois” Chardonnay. I liked this more on a previous try- the oak seemed less integrated with a bit more bottle age. Good acids, full bodied, but despite the acids some buttery notes, and an overlayof vanillla B-
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    > With roast chicken, squash, caprese, & green salad, the 2009 Copain “tous Ensemble” Pinot Noir (Anderson Valley). I found this rather disappointing at first- some interesting red fruit and smoke, but thin and disjointed, I actually switched to leftover rose for the meal. But I liked much better after a couple hours of air (and it showed fine on day 2 as well). Lightto medium body but with ample red fruits, mineral, smoke notes. B+/B
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    > On a gorgeous Sunday, I had Ahi steak, green beans with tomatoes, and leftover squash, with the 2012 Stolpman Rose (Santa Ynez) Crisp, fresh, lighter styled, I’d buy again. B/B+
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    > Monday Betsy was finally home for good after a peripatetic summer, she said she would take care of dinner. I was a bit perplexed by the ham and arugula canapes, sushi, and baby bok choy combination (turned out she was teasing me about a dream I had reported- and since forgotten). I opened the NV Paul Clouet Grand Cru Brut Champagne to celebrate her return. Big, toasty, a touch oxidative, this is not really my preferred style of Champagne, sureothers would like more. . B-
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    > Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.


    I guess I never really warmed up to Copain wines. I found them often to bethin and disjointed with a bit too much candy apple and cola for my tastes..

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    Mark Lipton Guest

    Default Re: TN: Champagne, Val d'Aosta, Anderson Valley, Santa Ynez

    On 8/27/13 2:42 PM, Bi!! wrote:

    > I guess I never really warmed up to Copain wines. I found them often
    > to be thin and disjointed with a bit too much candy apple and cola
    > for my tastes.
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    Interesting, Bill. I have limited experience with them, having only had
    the '06 Tous Ensemble PN, but it was lovely.

    Mark Lipton

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    Bi!! Guest

    Default Re: TN: Champagne, Val d'Aosta, Anderson Valley, Santa Ynez

    On Tuesday, August 27, 2013 3:15:55 PM UTC-4, Mark Lipton wrote:
    > On 8/27/13 2:42 PM, Bi!! wrote:
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    > > I guess I never really warmed up to Copain wines. I found them often

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    > Interesting, Bill. I have limited experience with them, having only had
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    > the '06 Tous Ensemble PN, but it was lovely.
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    > Mark Lipton
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    > alt.food.wine FAQ: http://winefaq.cwdjr.net


    I think it's just me. I visited Copain a couple times and have the wine in the cellar although I have no 2006....presesntly I have a few 2009 and 2010's. By comparison I prefer Failla, Roar, Loring, Talbott to the Copain.

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