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Thread: TN: Bunch of Tuscan IGTs, plus Burgs, El Dorado, Bergerac, etc

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    DaleW Guest

    Default TN: Bunch of Tuscan IGTs, plus Burgs, El Dorado, Bergerac, etc

    Friday started off with a somewhat hairy drive taking Betsy and 3 friends to airport (of course, flight listed on time, they then had a 5 hour delay).Back to work, then home to the dog for dinner (sausages and leftovers). Open a bottle of the 2011 Costes Bergerac rose, nice for the price- strawberry, orange zest, a little clovey herb notes. I like enough to reorder. B

    Then over to Marc’s for our local tasting group. He had an assortment of munchies out, plus the 2004 Blain-Gagnard “La Boudriotte” Chassagne-Montrachet 1er. I’ve liked before, and tonight is not different. Good acidity, full ripe fruit - citrus and pear. Wood way in background, good stuff. B+

    Theme was loosely SuperTuscan- Toscano IGT, or really any Tuscan wine that wasn’t labelled Chianti, Brunello/Rosso di Montalcino, Vino Nobile dM, etc. Wines were blind

    #1 - soft and easy, fleshy (is there Merlot here) , easygoing. Nothing complex, but fairly tasty. B 2006 Vitccio “Bere”
    #2 big, a bit overbearing, fair amount of tannin and a bit of oak. somewhat modern (Cabernet?). B-/C+ 2009 Guado al Tasso “Il Bruciato”


    #3 - not blind to me. I double-decanted before leaving, it seemed very advanced/pruney, so I brought a backup wine. By time served it was definitely showing maderized notes. C- 1985 Avignonesi “ Il Grifi”

    #4 I was bringing this to cover for a guest from UK, Not showing very Merlot-y, fairly classic Sangiovese notes of dried cherry and leather, nice length, not very big. Nice mature Tuscan. B+/B. 1990 Terrabianca Campaccio

    #5 - This has cab/merlot flavors, but more acidity than most Tuscan cabs. Cassis and a bit of herb. B 2008 Le Cupole


    #6- modern,lush, just a hint of oak, round round round. B-/C+ 2008 Il Colorino di Casanova

    #7 very Napa Cab-like, rich black fruit, a bit clipped. B- Tenuta San Guido “Le Difese”

    #8 my backup for the Grifi. Black cherry, herby, a bit of smoke. Good acids, some firn tannin. Young but very tasty. A- 2004 Montevertine

    #9 served a bit cold, but showing lots of class. Nicely structured, a bit tight, but I like this. A-/B+ 2006 Montevertine

    Good night with the guys.

    Since Betsy was in NC for a girls’ weekend, and the hostess’s husband had fled to NYC, I invited him and 2 of the other guys left stag for guyz night. Started with hummus, olives, salami and the 2002 Remi Jobard “Charmes” Meursault 1er Cru. Beautiful (and ready) Meursault, sweet fruit and hazelnut but also good minerality. On the big side. Quite fresh, no hint of oxidation Of course, the randomness of premOx means that other bottles stillat risk, but nice if first shows well. A-

    Dinner was manly- quail wrapped in bacon, green lentils with walnut oil vinaigrettte, sauteed mixed mushrooms, green beans in duck fat, and spinach salad.

    2005 Thenard “Clos St. Pierre” Givry 1er
    Quite tight and closed. Gradually emerges a bit , some tart raspberry and cranberry fruit, some earth. B/B-

    1998 Coudoulet de Beaucastel
    More advanced than other recent bottles, showing a little tea and hint of prune. Certainly very drinkable, but other were livelier. Off bottle B-/C+

    1999 Carlo Giacosa “Narin” Barbaresco
    Quite popular with the guys, I found it a bit unrefined for Barbaresco. Some rough tannin, but good black cherry fruit with a bit of tar and floral notes. B-

    1997 Beringer Knights Valley Cabernet Sauvignon
    Holding well for level, rounder cassis fruit, a little mocha and leather, decent finish. B

    Guys seemed to be less critical of the wines than I was.

    Who cares if winter, I can double-down on the pinks. With chicken breast inparchment with squash, tomato, peppers, and herbs, the 2011 Vacheron Sancerre rose. Oops, first bottle foully corked. Second is correct- pale salmon color, fresh strawberry fruit, a bit of chalk. Tasty bottle of pink, but I liked the Costes as much, at about half the price. B

    Monday night a garbanzo/spinach sautee, bulgur with mushrooms, and avocado in a soy/lime dressing, the 2011 Edmunds St John “Bone Jolly” Gamay Noir. Just a hint of stink as unscrewed, but whatever it was blows off quickly.. Sweet raspberry and red currant fruit, smoke, a little spicy note. Mediumbodied and full flavored, extremely enjoyable. A-/B+

    Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent
    wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink ata
    party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of
    objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.

  2. #2
    lleichtman Guest

    Default Re: TN: Bunch of Tuscan IGTs, plus Burgs, El Dorado, Bergerac, etc

    On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 2:01:26 PM UTC-6, DaleW wrote:
    > Friday started off with a somewhat hairy drive taking Betsy and 3 friendsto airport (of course, flight listed on time, they then had a 5 hour delay). Back to work, then home to the dog for dinner (sausages and leftovers). Open a bottle of the 2011 Costes Bergerac rose, nice for the price- strawberry, orange zest, a little clovey herb notes. I like enough to reorder. B
    >
    >
    >
    > Then over to Marc’s for our local tasting group. He had an assortment of munchies out, plus the 2004 Blain-Gagnard “La Boudriotte” Chassagne-Montrachet 1er. I’ve liked before, and tonight is not different. Good acidity, full ripe fruit - citrus and pear. Wood way in background, good stuff.B+
    >
    >
    >
    > Theme was loosely SuperTuscan- Toscano IGT, or really any Tuscan wine that wasn’t labelled Chianti, Brunello/Rosso di Montalcino, Vino Nobile dM, etc. Wines were blind
    >
    >
    >
    > #1 - soft and easy, fleshy (is there Merlot here) , easygoing. Nothing complex, but fairly tasty. B 2006 Vitccio “Bere”
    >
    > #2 big, a bit overbearing, fair amount of tannin and a bit of oak. somewhat modern (Cabernet?). B-/C+ 2009 Guado al Tasso “Il Bruciato”
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > #3 - not blind to me. I double-decanted before leaving, it seemed very advanced/pruney, so I brought a backup wine. By time served it was definitely showing maderized notes. C- 1985 Avignonesi “ Il Grifi”
    >
    >
    >
    > #4 I was bringing this to cover for a guest from UK, Not showing very Merlot-y, fairly classic Sangiovese notes of dried cherry and leather, nice length, not very big. Nice mature Tuscan. B+/B. 1990 Terrabianca Campaccio
    >
    >
    >
    > #5 - This has cab/merlot flavors, but more acidity than most Tuscan cabs.Cassis and a bit of herb. B 2008 Le Cupole
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > #6- modern,lush, just a hint of oak, round round round. B-/C+ 2008 Il Colorino di Casanova
    >
    >
    >
    > #7 very Napa Cab-like, rich black fruit, a bit clipped. B- Tenuta San Guido “Le Difese”
    >
    >
    >
    > #8 my backup for the Grifi. Black cherry, herby, a bit of smoke. Good acids, some firn tannin. Young but very tasty. A- 2004 Montevertine
    >
    >
    >
    > #9 served a bit cold, but showing lots of class. Nicely structured, a bittight, but I like this. A-/B+ 2006 Montevertine
    >
    >
    >
    > Good night with the guys.
    >
    >
    >
    > Since Betsy was in NC for a girls’ weekend, and the hostess’s husbandhad fled to NYC, I invited him and 2 of the other guys left stag for guyz night. Started with hummus, olives, salami and the 2002 Remi Jobard “Charmes” Meursault 1er Cru. Beautiful (and ready) Meursault, sweet fruit and hazelnut but also good minerality. On the big side. Quite fresh, no hint ofoxidation Of course, the randomness of premOx means that other bottles still at risk, but nice if first shows well. A-
    >
    >
    >
    > Dinner was manly- quail wrapped in bacon, green lentils with walnut oil vinaigrettte, sauteed mixed mushrooms, green beans in duck fat, and spinach salad.
    >
    >
    >
    > 2005 Thenard “Clos St. Pierre” Givry 1er
    >
    > Quite tight and closed. Gradually emerges a bit , some tart raspberry andcranberry fruit, some earth. B/B-
    >
    >
    >
    > 1998 Coudoulet de Beaucastel
    >
    > More advanced than other recent bottles, showing a little tea and hint ofprune. Certainly very drinkable, but other were livelier. Off bottle B-/C+
    >
    >
    >
    > 1999 Carlo Giacosa “Narin” Barbaresco
    >
    > Quite popular with the guys, I found it a bit unrefined for Barbaresco. Some rough tannin, but good black cherry fruit with a bit of tar and floral notes. B-
    >
    >
    >
    > 1997 Beringer Knights Valley Cabernet Sauvignon
    >
    > Holding well for level, rounder cassis fruit, a little mocha and leather,decent finish. B
    >
    >
    >
    > Guys seemed to be less critical of the wines than I was.
    >
    >
    >
    > Who cares if winter, I can double-down on the pinks. With chicken breast in parchment with squash, tomato, peppers, and herbs, the 2011 Vacheron Sancerre rose. Oops, first bottle foully corked. Second is correct- pale salmon color, fresh strawberry fruit, a bit of chalk. Tasty bottle of pink, but I liked the Costes as much, at about half the price. B
    >
    >
    >
    > Monday night a garbanzo/spinach sautee, bulgur with mushrooms, and avocado in a soy/lime dressing, the 2011 Edmunds St John “Bone Jolly” Gamay Noir. Just a hint of stink as unscrewed, but whatever it was blows off quickly. Sweet raspberry and red currant fruit, smoke, a little spicy note. Mediumbodied and full flavored, extremely enjoyable. A-/B+
    >
    >
    >
    > Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent
    >
    > wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a
    >
    > party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of
    >
    > objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.


    You cook very well for yourself. Too bad about the Avignonesi, haven't had one of these in 10 years but the last one was very nice, easily B+

  3. #3
    DaleW Guest

    Default Re: TN: Bunch of Tuscan IGTs, plus Burgs, El Dorado, Bergerac, etc

    On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 7:37:49 PM UTC-4, lleichtman wrote:
    Too bad about the Avignonesi, haven't had one of these in 10 years but the last one was very nice, easily B+

    I got a mix of these from Benchmark (82, 83, 85) a few years ago, lots of variability, though some quite good, I'd assume less than perfect storage before acquisiton.

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