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Thread: TN: Bordeaux 1928-1989, plus Piedmont, bubbly, and white Burgundy

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    DaleW Guest

    Default TN: Bordeaux 1928-1989, plus Piedmont, bubbly, and white Burgundy

    Last night I joined Mark on the train to the city, then we headed down to Franco’s place for SOBER (Craig was hosting, but Franco has more space andisn’t in Brooklyn). Some misfortune and encounters with an a**hole had changed Craig’s dinner plans, yet it ended up a very successful evening.

    The toddlers were in full showoff mode as we arrived (and very cute). We were greeted with deviled eggs, a nice cheese assortment, and a couple of non-blind bubblies:

    2002 Foreau Vouvray Brut
    Maybe not quite as fresh and expressive as a bottle last week, but I still found enjoyable. Apple and lemon curd, a little Parker house roll. B+

    NV Egly Ouriet “Les Vignes de Vrigny” Champagne Brut
    Fuller, heavier style, dark fruit and bread, quite good if not in my most preferred style. B+

    White Wine Flight
    #1 - this is a volatile nose, quite oxidizrd with stewed apple peels, too bad, this would have been very interesting, 1999 de Montille " Caillerets" Puligny-Montrachet 1er (made by Roulot)

    #2 -some concern re premox, but to me I’d make the distinction that this is advanced but not truly oxidized, Butterscotch, tropical fruits,not a lotof acid. This is fully mature, which would be fine if a 1990, a bit sad for a 2002. But interesting. 2002 Pinson “Les Clos” Chablis Grand Cru B/B-

    #3 - this was a replacement for the premoxed 1999. Cathleen got Chablis immediately. Good fruit, chalky, full, long, I apparently liked more than most.. 2007 Brocard “Les Clos” Chablis Grand Cru A-/B+

    Craig used his fallback plan and ordered excellent pizza and antipasti fromMotorino

    First Red Flight
    Some quick calls for Right Bank, once we established St. Emilion I made a stab at Magdelaine.

    #1- red fruits, a touch ashy, really nice but this bottle outclassed for this flight
    1970 Ch. Magdelaine B+

    #2- good dark fruit, lush but delineated, perfumed, lovely.
    1975 Ch. Magdelaine A-

    #3 -ripest and densest, full, good
    1982 Ch. Magdelaine B+/A-

    #4 - young, cassis and black plum, cocoa, cigarbox. Plenty of time left, but interesting development.
    1989 Ch. Magdelaine A-

    Great flight

    Second Red Flight
    I think Tim and Mark both call Piedmont right away.

    #1 - John D called Gattinara early . Mature, medium bodied, redder fruits, lots of mushroom, 1964 Berteletti Gattinara. B

    #2- wildly divergent opinions on this wine. Some convinced it was corked. Ididn’t get corked, but got VA, and some bretty aromas. But from Mark’sglass it did smell cardboardy. Cathleen (our TCA mine canary) say not corked, but it smells like vomit. Whew, that’s ok, because vomit blows off! This stayed weird and funky, but we disagreed on exact flaw. 1967 BertelettiSpanna C-/D

    #3- Mark got appellation and vintage quickly. Red fruit, tar, rose petals, quite nice and ready to go. Craig says $90, amazing bargain at that price. 1971 Bel Colle Barolo A-/B+

    Third Red Flight
    #1 (a) first bottle was a bit muddled and tired, so Craig opened the backup(bottle b) Much better, dark fruit, coarser than wine #2, but lots of life, and our guesses started in the ‘60. 1928 Ch. Malartic-Lagraviere. B+/B

    #2 Since initial guesses were Burgundy, I jokingly said it was Beychevelle when Craig said it was Bordeaux. Lovely, hauntingly complex, elegant, blackand red currant fruit, tobacco, leather, sandalwood. 1929 Ch. Beychevelle A

    Really nice dinner/tasting, despite the stresses.

    Really fun night, Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellentwine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at aparty where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of
    objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.

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    Bi!! Guest

    Default Re: TN: Bordeaux 1928-1989, plus Piedmont, bubbly, and white Burgundy

    On Mar 1, 3:39*pm, DaleW <dwmi...@aol.com> wrote:
    > Last night I joined Mark on the train to the city, then we headed down toFranco’s place for SOBER (Craig was hosting, but Franco has more space and isn’t in Brooklyn). Some misfortune and encounters with an a**hole hadchanged Craig’s dinner plans, yet it ended up a very successful evening.
    >
    > The toddlers were in full showoff mode as we arrived (and very cute). We were greeted with deviled eggs, a nice cheese assortment, and a couple of non-blind bubblies:
    >
    > 2002 Foreau Vouvray Brut
    > Maybe not quite as fresh and expressive as a bottle last week, but I still found enjoyable. Apple and lemon curd, a little Parker house roll. B+
    >
    > NV Egly Ouriet “Les Vignes de Vrigny” Champagne Brut
    > Fuller, heavier style, dark fruit and bread, quite good if not in my mostpreferred style. B+
    >
    > White Wine Flight
    > #1 - this is a volatile nose, quite oxidizrd with stewed apple peels, toobad, this would have been very interesting, 1999 de Montille " Caillerets"Puligny-Montrachet 1er (made by Roulot)
    >
    > #2 -some concern re premox, but to me I’d make the distinction that this is advanced but not truly oxidized, Butterscotch, tropical fruits,not a lot of acid. This is fully mature, which would be fine if a 1990, a bit sad for a 2002. But interesting. 2002 Pinson “Les Clos” Chablis Grand Cru B/B-
    >
    > #3 - this was a replacement for the premoxed 1999. Cathleen got Chablis immediately. Good fruit, chalky, full, long, I apparently liked more than most. 2007 Brocard “Les Clos” Chablis Grand Cru A-/B+
    >
    > Craig used his fallback plan and ordered excellent pizza and antipasti from Motorino
    >
    > First Red Flight
    > Some quick calls for Right Bank, once we established St. Emilion I made astab at Magdelaine.
    >
    > #1- red fruits, a touch ashy, really nice but this bottle outclassed for this flight
    > 1970 Ch. Magdelaine B+
    >
    > #2- good dark fruit, lush but delineated, perfumed, lovely.
    > 1975 Ch. Magdelaine A-
    >
    > #3 -ripest and densest, full, good
    > 1982 Ch. Magdelaine B+/A-
    >
    > #4 - young, cassis and black plum, cocoa, cigarbox. Plenty of time left, but interesting development.
    > 1989 Ch. Magdelaine A-
    >
    > Great flight
    >
    > Second Red Flight
    > I think Tim and Mark both call Piedmont right away.
    >
    > #1 - John D called Gattinara early . Mature, medium bodied, redder fruits, lots of mushroom, 1964 Berteletti Gattinara. B
    >
    > #2- wildly divergent opinions on this wine. Some convinced it was corked.I didn’t get corked, but got VA, and some bretty aromas. But from Mark’s glass it did smell cardboardy. Cathleen (our TCA mine canary) say not corked, but it smells like vomit. Whew, that’s ok, because vomit blows off! This stayed weird and funky, but we disagreed on exact flaw. 1967 Berteletti Spanna C-/D
    >
    > #3- Mark got appellation and vintage quickly. Red fruit, tar, rose petals, quite nice and ready to go. Craig says $90, amazing bargain at that price.. 1971 Bel Colle Barolo A-/B+
    >
    > Third Red Flight
    > #1 (a) first bottle was a bit muddled and tired, so Craig opened the backup (bottle b) Much better, dark fruit, coarser than wine #2, but lots of life, and our guesses started in the ‘60. 1928 Ch. Malartic-Lagraviere. B+/B
    >
    > #2 Since initial guesses were Burgundy, I jokingly said it was Beychevelle when Craig said it was Bordeaux. Lovely, hauntingly complex, elegant, black and red currant fruit, tobacco, leather, sandalwood. 1929 Ch. Beychevelle A
    >
    > Really nice dinner/tasting, despite the stresses.
    >
    > Really fun night, Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellentwine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at aparty where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of
    > objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.


    Hi Dale, Thanks for the notes. A distributor in Ohio that I used to
    be affiliated with recently picked up the entire Montille line which
    has changed somewhat since 1999 with the addition of a couple of
    properties. Here's a link to the story: http://www.winespectator.com/webfeature/show/id/47032
    I tasted through the 2008/9's and found the wines to be quite good.

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