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    Mark Lipton Guest

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    graham Guest

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    "Mark Lipton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > <http://www.wine-searcher.com/m/2012/06/monumental-achievement-for-vineyard>
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    A couple of years ago in Provence, I had a bottle of wine from a local,
    pre-phylloxera vineyard. I lost my notes so can't remember the name but,
    apparently, the vigneronne flooded the vineyard every 2 or 3 years to
    prevent any infestation. At least, that's what the sommelier told us.
    Graham



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    On Jun 20, 7:58*pm, "graham" <g.ste...@shaw.ca> wrote:
    > "Mark Lipton" <not...@eudrup.ude> wrote in message
    >
    > news:jrtc8t$20f$[email protected]..> <http://www.wine-searcher.com/m/2012/06/monumental-achievement-for-vin...>
    >
    > A couple of years ago in Provence, I had a bottle of wine from a local,
    > pre-phylloxera vineyard. I lost my notes so can't remember the name but,
    > apparently, the vigneronne flooded the vineyard every 2 or 3 years to
    > prevent any infestation. *At least, that's what the sommelier told us.
    > Graham


    Until shortly after WWII, the Romanee-Conti vineyard Pinot Noir vines
    grew on their native roots without grafting. This required very
    expensive treatments to keep the harmful insects in check. This was
    beyond the means of most vineyard owners, but then Romanee-Conti sold
    for enough to justify this. However during WWII it was not possible to
    obtain needed materials to keep the insects in check. The old vines on
    their own roots had to be removed and the vineyard had to be replanted
    using Pinot Noir vines grafted to insect resistant root stock. There
    was no Romanee-Conti for several years and then more time was required
    for Romanee-Conti to be as good as it could be for the grafted vines.
    Does using grafted vines lower the quality of the wine? This question
    is very difficult to answer, since one must compare grafted vine wine
    for vines that are fully mature with wines made from ungrafted vine
    grapes which would be roughly pre-WWII. Also one must consider if
    changing of cultivation methods and wine making methods may have
    changed the quality of the wine also.


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