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    Paul Magnussen Guest

    Default Peppery Beaujolais wines

    In the late '80s it was possible, in the US, to get several good
    low-priced Beaujolais wines -- such as Fleurie, Morgon & Moulin--Vent
    -- with a peppery taste. The best that I remember was the Moulin--Vent
    by Clos du Tremblay.

    It's still possible to buy these regional labels, but the peppery taste
    seems to have gone; and the Tremblay is impossible to find.

    I'm reluctant to waste more money trying new brands, since my success
    rate is so low. I should be grateful for any help.

    Thanks,

    Paul Magnussen

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    santiago Guest

    Default Re: Peppery Beaujolais wines

    I wonder if you are asking for unripe wines from Beaujolais.

    With global warming, and Beaujolais gaining appreciation, most decent
    growers are now making riper wines and those peppery notes are not that
    common, I think.

    If you want to have those peppery notes, my suggestion would be to go with
    cooler vintages such as 2007 or 2008 (if you can find them) and avoid 2009
    and 2010, which are quite ripe (2009 is riper than 2010).

    Cru Beaujolais is fashionable again, and you should be able to get the
    wines from the best producers in the U.S. Lapierre, Piron, Metrat,
    Descombes, Desvignes, Foillard, Ch. des Jacques (from Jadot). I do not know
    if some more cult producers such as Bouland or Burgaud are available in the
    U.S.

    Morgon rules!

    BTW, it is much easier to get peppery notes in Loire reds, specially those
    from Anjou.

    s.



    Paul Magnussen <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected] m:

    > In the late '80s it was possible, in the US, to get several good
    > low-priced Beaujolais wines -- such as Fleurie, Morgon & Moulin--Vent
    > -- with a peppery taste. The best that I remember was the Moulin--Vent
    > by Clos du Tremblay.
    >
    > It's still possible to buy these regional labels, but the peppery taste
    > seems to have gone; and the Tremblay is impossible to find.
    >
    > I'm reluctant to waste more money trying new brands, since my success
    > rate is so low. I should be grateful for any help.
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > Paul Magnussen



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    Steve Slatcher Guest

    Default Re: Peppery Beaujolais wines

    Santiago

    You are assuming Paul meant bell peppers it seems. I thought he meant
    peppercorn, but was not sure as I have noted neither in Beaujolais. I
    almost asked, but decided against it as I couldn't help either way.

    I agree - (young) Loire reds for bell peppers. N Rhone Syrah for
    peppercorn I suppose - so people say.

    Steve

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    santiago Guest

    Default Re: Peppery Beaujolais wines

    Steve Slatcher <[email protected]> wrote in news:adbs5oFlgs1U1
    @mid.individual.net:

    > Santiago
    >
    > You are assuming Paul meant bell peppers it seems.


    Absolutely!


    I thought he meant
    > peppercorn, but was not sure as I have noted neither in Beaujolais. I
    > almost asked, but decided against it as I couldn't help either way.


    When I read pepper, my mind goes directly to bell-pepper, either red or
    green. For me, "pepper the spice" is always white-pepper or black-pepper.
    Not that I think it is that common in Cru Beaujolais.

    >
    > I agree - (young) Loire reds for bell peppers. N Rhone Syrah for
    > peppercorn I suppose - so people say.


    Yes, I agree to some degree with peppercorn in NR Syrahs... I also find
    them in some Grenache wines (Ch. Rayas) and in some of the finer examples
    of Ribera del Duero from Tempranillo.

    BTW, I think Cabernets are very proner to bell-pepper, specially when
    unripe. I love Loire reds, and can accept a certain pepperiness as part of
    the game, but most reds from Anjou (Anjou, Anjou-Villages, Anjou-Brissac
    and so on)... are over the top for me.

    And I tend to love very much when I find some paprika (which is not more
    than red-bell-pepper that has been dry-roasted and then smoked) in some of
    the wines from the Mdoc.

    Regards,

    s.


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    Paul Magnussen Guest

    Default Re: Peppery Beaujolais wines

    santiago wrote:
    > Steve Slatcher <[email protected]> wrote in news:adbs5oFlgs1U1
    > @mid.individual.net:
    >
    >> Santiago
    >>
    >> You are assuming Paul meant bell peppers it seems.

    >
    > Absolutely!
    >
    >
    > I thought he meant
    >> peppercorn, but was not sure as I have noted neither in Beaujolais. I
    >> almost asked, but decided against it as I couldn't help either way.


    I meant peppery as in "salt & pepper". Let's say "spicy", if that makes
    it easier.

    Paul Magnussen

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