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  1. #1
    Bi!! Guest

    Default Holiday Dinner-Bordeaux Burgundy

    Met a couple of wine friends for dinner last night. Menu included
    crispy sweetbreads, rack of lamb and Dover sole. Wines were from our
    cellar except the starter Champagne.

    1999 Dom Perignon-Typical Dom with nice fruity style. Refreshing and
    crisp with apples, pears and a hint of mineral on the finish. It was
    featured at the restaurant and offered at a great price. "B+"

    2002 Olivier Leflaive Le Montrachet-Started out great with powerful
    lemon pie aromas and a nice earthy undertone but faded in the glass
    within five minutes to an oxidized mess. Pity.

    2004 Domaine Leflaive Chevalier Montrachet-Lean and racy at first with
    zippy lemon-lime acidity but rounded out with time into a smooth, rich
    polished Chardonnay with great citrus tones and chalky flavors. "A-"

    1983 Ch. Margaux-Ruby red in the glass with very little brickish
    color. Explosive aroma of black cherries and wildflowers. Stunning
    on the palate. Cassis, sweet cherry, cedar and tobacco. The wotn. "A
    +"

    1982 Ch. Mouton-Dark inky color. Tight nose of earthy mushrooms and
    cassis. Very powerful on the palate. Still a bit tannic with
    blackberry, black currant and coffee flavors. Still years from
    maturity. "A-"

    1971 Ch. D'Yquem-Color of dark caramel. Botrytis aromas on the nose.
    Tasty on the palate with burnt sugar and orange zest.

  2. #2
    DaleW Guest

    Default Re: Holiday Dinner-Bordeaux Burgundy

    On Dec 15, 12:53*pm, "Bi!!" <rvwr...@aol.com> wrote:
    > Met a couple of wine friends for dinner last night. *Menu included
    > crispy sweetbreads, rack of lamb and Dover sole. Wines were from our
    > cellar except the starter Champagne.
    >
    > 1999 Dom Perignon-Typical Dom with nice fruity style. *Refreshing and
    > crisp with apples, pears and a hint of mineral on the finish. *It was
    > featured at the restaurant and offered at a great price. "B+"
    >
    > 2002 Olivier Leflaive Le Montrachet-Started out great with powerful
    > lemon pie aromas and a nice earthy undertone but faded in the glass
    > within five minutes to an oxidized mess. *Pity.
    >
    > 2004 Domaine Leflaive Chevalier Montrachet-Lean and racy at first with
    > zippy lemon-lime acidity but rounded out with time into a smooth, rich
    > polished Chardonnay with great citrus tones and chalky flavors. "A-"
    >
    > 1983 Ch. Margaux-Ruby red in the glass with very little brickish
    > color. *Explosive aroma of black cherries and wildflowers. *Stunning
    > on the palate. *Cassis, sweet cherry, cedar and tobacco. *The wotn. "A
    > +"
    >
    > 1982 Ch. Mouton-Dark inky color. *Tight nose of earthy mushrooms and
    > cassis. *Very powerful on the palate. *Still a bit tannic with
    > blackberry, black currant and coffee flavors. *Still years from
    > maturity. "A-"
    >
    > 1971 Ch. D'Yquem-Color of dark caramel. *Botrytis aromas on the nose.
    > Tasty on the palate with burnt sugar and orange zest.


    83 Margaux, 82 Mouton, and sweetbreads in one night (the rest of wines
    are pretty serious, too!)? I am VERY jealous.

  3. #3
    DaleW Guest

    Default Re: Holiday Dinner-Bordeaux Burgundy

    On Dec 15, 12:53*pm, "Bi!!" <rvwr...@aol.com> wrote:
    > Met a couple of wine friends for dinner last night. *Menu included
    > crispy sweetbreads, rack of lamb and Dover sole. Wines were from our
    > cellar except the starter Champagne.
    >
    > 1999 Dom Perignon-Typical Dom with nice fruity style. *Refreshing and
    > crisp with apples, pears and a hint of mineral on the finish. *It was
    > featured at the restaurant and offered at a great price. "B+"
    >
    > 2002 Olivier Leflaive Le Montrachet-Started out great with powerful
    > lemon pie aromas and a nice earthy undertone but faded in the glass
    > within five minutes to an oxidized mess. *Pity.
    >
    > 2004 Domaine Leflaive Chevalier Montrachet-Lean and racy at first with
    > zippy lemon-lime acidity but rounded out with time into a smooth, rich
    > polished Chardonnay with great citrus tones and chalky flavors. "A-"
    >
    > 1983 Ch. Margaux-Ruby red in the glass with very little brickish
    > color. *Explosive aroma of black cherries and wildflowers. *Stunning
    > on the palate. *Cassis, sweet cherry, cedar and tobacco. *The wotn. "A
    > +"
    >
    > 1982 Ch. Mouton-Dark inky color. *Tight nose of earthy mushrooms and
    > cassis. *Very powerful on the palate. *Still a bit tannic with
    > blackberry, black currant and coffee flavors. *Still years from
    > maturity. "A-"
    >
    > 1971 Ch. D'Yquem-Color of dark caramel. *Botrytis aromas on the nose.
    > Tasty on the palate with burnt sugar and orange zest.


    PS I love the 83 Margaux. Have you tried the '82- I think everyone I
    know with experience of both prefers 83. It used to be comparative
    bargain, but it's super-expensive now.

  4. #4
    Bi!! Guest

    Default Re: Holiday Dinner-Bordeaux Burgundy

    On Dec 18, 10:08*am, DaleW <Dwmi...@aol.com> wrote:
    > On Dec 15, 12:53*pm, "Bi!!" <rvwr...@aol.com> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > Met a couple of wine friends for dinner last night. *Menu included
    > > crispy sweetbreads, rack of lamb and Dover sole. Wines were from our
    > > cellar except the starter Champagne.

    >
    > > 1999 Dom Perignon-Typical Dom with nice fruity style. *Refreshing and
    > > crisp with apples, pears and a hint of mineral on the finish. *It was
    > > featured at the restaurant and offered at a great price. "B+"

    >
    > > 2002 Olivier Leflaive Le Montrachet-Started out great with powerful
    > > lemon pie aromas and a nice earthy undertone but faded in the glass
    > > within five minutes to an oxidized mess. *Pity.

    >
    > > 2004 Domaine Leflaive Chevalier Montrachet-Lean and racy at first with
    > > zippy lemon-lime acidity but rounded out with time into a smooth, rich
    > > polished Chardonnay with great citrus tones and chalky flavors. "A-"

    >
    > > 1983 Ch. Margaux-Ruby red in the glass with very little brickish
    > > color. *Explosive aroma of black cherries and wildflowers. *Stunning
    > > on the palate. *Cassis, sweet cherry, cedar and tobacco. *The wotn."A
    > > +"

    >
    > > 1982 Ch. Mouton-Dark inky color. *Tight nose of earthy mushrooms and
    > > cassis. *Very powerful on the palate. *Still a bit tannic with
    > > blackberry, black currant and coffee flavors. *Still years from
    > > maturity. "A-"

    >
    > > 1971 Ch. D'Yquem-Color of dark caramel. *Botrytis aromas on the nose.
    > > Tasty on the palate with burnt sugar and orange zest.

    >
    > PS I love the 83 Margaux. Have you tried the '82- I think everyone I
    > know with experience of both prefers 83. It used to be comparative
    > bargain, but it's super-expensive now.- Hide quoted text -
    >
    > - Show quoted text -


    I have had the '82 Margaux but honestly..the '83 rocked my world! No
    doubt my wine of the year for 2010. The restaurant (The Refectory)is
    our favorite place in Columbus and has been for many, many years. The
    owner is a dear friend and he knows I like sweetbreads so he made sure
    they wre on the menu for me and the Lyon trained chef knows how to
    prepare them...yikes...bad for the purine content but oh so yummy.

  5. #5
    Mark Lipton Guest

    Default Re: Holiday Dinner-Bordeaux Burgundy

    On 12/20/10 10:32 AM, Bi!! wrote:

    > I have had the '82 Margaux but honestly..the '83 rocked my world! No
    > doubt my wine of the year for 2010. The restaurant (The Refectory)is
    > our favorite place in Columbus and has been for many, many years. The
    > owner is a dear friend and he knows I like sweetbreads so he made sure
    > they wre on the menu for me and the Lyon trained chef knows how to
    > prepare them...yikes...bad for the purine content but oh so yummy.


    You do drink well, Bill. I bought Jean a bottle of the '83 Margaux as a
    present when she got her Ph. D. lo those many years ago (when the '83
    was the current release) for the then princely sum of $35. We opened it
    last year.... and it was corked! I'm glad that your bottle was
    untainted.

    Cheers!
    Mark Lipton

    --
    alt.food.wine FAQ: http://winefaq.cwdjr.net

  6. #6
    Bi!! Guest

    Default Re: Holiday Dinner-Bordeaux Burgundy

    On Dec 20, 11:04*am, Mark Lipton <not...@eudrup.ude> wrote:
    > On 12/20/10 10:32 AM, Bi!! wrote:
    >
    > > I have had the '82 Margaux but honestly..the '83 rocked my world! *No
    > > doubt my wine of the year for 2010. *The restaurant *(The Refectory)is
    > > our favorite place in Columbus and has been for many, many years. *The
    > > owner is a dear friend and he knows I like sweetbreads so he made sure
    > > they wre on the menu for me and the Lyon trained chef knows how to
    > > prepare them...yikes...bad for the purine content but oh so yummy.

    >
    > You do drink well, Bill. *I bought Jean a bottle of the '83 Margaux as a
    > present when she got her Ph. D. lo those many years ago (when the '83
    > was the current release) for the then princely sum of $35. *We opened it
    > last year.... and it was corked! *I'm glad that your bottle was
    > untainted.
    >
    > Cheers!
    > Mark Lipton
    >
    > --
    > alt.food.wine FAQ: *http://winefaq.cwdjr.net


    If you ever get to Columbus on academic business (we do have a large
    university here) you can pick the dinner wines from my cellar! I was
    blessed to have grown up in a very ethnic area of Ohio where wine
    making and wine drinking was encouraged. I worked in a wine store in
    the late 60's while in high school for a guy with a great palate and a
    better mind and I was also fortunate to marry a fantastic woman with a
    good palate and the good sense to start buying and storing wine in the
    80's. My corporate life allowed us to travel extensively to wine
    destinations in Europe and the US and I was gifted great wine on a
    regular basis. I also, upon retirement, made an investment into a
    nice wine distributorship in Ohio which gave me even further access to
    terrific wines. I only have a few bottles of 80's Bordeaux left and
    much of my 90's purchases of Bordeaux centered around non-first growth
    Chateaux. My cellar is aging and i'm trying to drink it while it's
    still prime but it can be a real chore...:-). Help!!!

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