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  1. #1
    guardian Snow Guest

    Default Chef Gordon Ramsey in Melbourne

    “Swearing is industry language. For as long as we're alive it's not
    going to change. You've got to be boisterous to get results.”
    Gordon Ramsay

    Melbourne, Australia (06-06-09)

    I got to watch Chef Gordon Ramsey in action very recently and I was
    very impressed by his actions that speak a lot louder than his words.
    A lot of people attack Chef Ramsey because he does have a foul mouth
    at times and they fail to see that for him it’s a part of the culture
    and where he’s from to speak in the fashion that he does. In my
    meeting with him, I found him to be very down to earth and friendly
    and even charming and passionate man that cares deeply for other
    people and I came away with a deep admiration for the man that he is.

    At a recent Food and Wine convention, after speaking with Mr. Ramsey,
    I got to watch him work. There were hundreds of people lined up to
    get an autograph and as I stood to the side and thought to myself, “it
    must be tiring to stand and greet hundreds of people”, he worked
    tirelessly.

    One young lady in a wheelchair showed up late and was off to the side
    of the cue and her eyes were lit up with excitement as she looked
    fondly over at Chef Ramsey. The security told the young lady she had
    to go and sit at the other side so she wasn’t at the exit where people
    left. The people in line continued to file past until just a few
    moments before Chef Ramsey had to leave for his scheduled cooking
    demonstration in the “Celebrity Theatre”. Unfortunately not everybody
    in the line got a chance at this time to have their books signed and
    Chef Ramsey started to leave and as he walked past the front of the
    cue, a lady in the line roughly grabbed his arm and I heard Gordon
    say, “I’m sorry but I have to go and speak to my most important fan.”
    And he pulled his arm away from her.

    The young lady in the wheelchair turned to look behind her wondering
    who this “most important fan” was and while she was doing that, Chef
    Ramsey walked up to her and crouched down next to her. It suddenly
    dawned on her now that the Chef was speaking of her and a complete
    look of wonder and awe swept her face as she looked directly into the
    eyes of the infamous man whose books and television shows had brought
    her so much enjoyment as he asked her, “What is your name love?”

    For the next two minutes, Chef Ramsey spoke with, “Felicity” and all
    eyes were on them as this transaction of communication took place
    during which he signed her book and commented on her choice of books,
    “Cooking for Friends”. Felicity said that it was her favorite book
    and I heard the Chef reply back that it was his also.

    “I hid myself in food. “
    Gordon Ramsay

    Some people who work in “Food Service” do so because they have a
    passion for serving other people and Chef Gordon Ramsey displayed by
    his actions in front of me that he understood what this means. For
    the few moments that he shared with, “Felicity”, it would make a
    lifetime of meaning to her that he took the time to make sure this
    young lady knew just how important she was. I have no doubt that it
    meant more to “Felicity” then it did all the other people in the cue,
    you could tell just by looking into the beautiful smile that lit an
    entire convention centre.

    It occurred to me that Mr. Ramsey “get’s it” and the fruits of his
    labor are the evidence as he elevated the spirit of this young lady
    simply by spending a moment of his time. In that sense more people
    should be as down to earth and caring as Chef Ramsey. After he signed
    her book, before they parted she told Chef Ramsey, “It was a pleasure
    meeting you Chef.” and he replied, “No, the pleasure was all mine.”
    The young lady in her wheelchair was beside herself and when the Chef
    walked off, she thanked all the security staff for arranging the
    meeting. She said, “You don’t know just how much that meant to me.”
    But I could tell by the look in the staffer’s eyes that he did…

    It’s in the press that Gordon is arrogant and I can tell you by our
    conversation and watching him at the Food and Wine Festival that the
    things he said about other people were just jokes done to try and
    entertain people and while I personally don’t subscribe to his dry
    British humor, I understood he was just trying to funny.

    Anybody that has watched his shows knows that he has brought dozens
    of people back from the brink of disaster and probably prevented
    thousands of cases of food poisoning by raising awareness, standards
    and in general, just plain common sense. I’ve seen firsthand that he
    has an honest desire to serve people by increasing self-confidence and
    pride in everyday jobs and I could only wish that more Christians took
    as much pride in making the world a better place as Chef Ramsey does.

    He does get passionate and use explicit language when he sees people
    with practices that place their unknowing customers in literal mortal
    danger and had I eaten at some of the establishments he’s shown on
    television, I’d consider suing those people… but thank goodness the
    Chef does care and is passionate, we need more people like him that do
    care about the products being put out. The world would be a better
    place if more people shared his compassionate nature.

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  2. #2
    Nancy Young Guest

    Default Re: Chef Gordon Ramsey in Melbourne

    guardian Snow wrote:
    > “Swearing is industry language. For as long as we're alive it's not
    > going to change. You've got to be boisterous to get results.”
    > Gordon Ramsay
    >
    > Melbourne, Australia (06-06-09)
    >
    > I got to watch Chef Gordon Ramsey in action very recently and I was
    > very impressed by his actions that speak a lot louder than his words.
    > A lot of people attack Chef Ramsey because he does have a foul mouth
    > at times and they fail to see that for him it’s a part of the culture
    > and where he’s from to speak in the fashion that he does.


    I don't care about how he acts on tv, but I have no doubt he swears
    for shock value and ratings. If he wanted to change, he would.

    > It’s in the press that Gordon is arrogant and I can tell you by our
    > conversation and watching him at the Food and Wine Festival that the
    > things he said about other people were just jokes done to try and
    > entertain people and while I personally don’t subscribe to his dry
    > British humor, I understood he was just trying to funny.


    Does Gordon have PR? I guess this is their way of excusing his verbal
    assault on that female reporter in Australia.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,525334,00.html

    nancy


  3. #3
    guardian Snow Guest

    Default Re: Chef Gordon Ramsey in Melbourne

    On Jun 9, 10:44*pm, "Nancy Young" <rjynly...@comcast.net> wrote:
    > guardian Snow wrote:
    > > Swearing is industry language. For as long as we're alive it's not
    > > going to change. You've got to be boisterous to get results.
    > > Gordon Ramsay

    >
    > > Melbourne, Australia (06-06-09)

    >
    > > I got to watch Chef Gordon Ramsey in action very recently and I was
    > > very impressed by his actions that speak a lot louder than his words.
    > > A lot of people attack Chef Ramsey because he does have a foul mouth
    > > at times and they fail to see that for him its a part of the culture
    > > and where hes from to speak in the fashion that he does.

    >
    > I don't care about how he acts on tv, but I have no doubt he swears
    > for shock value and ratings. *If he wanted to change, he would.
    >
    > > Its in the press that Gordon is arrogant and I can tell you by our
    > > conversation and watching him at the Food and Wine Festival that the
    > > things he said about other people were just jokes done to try and
    > > entertain people and while I personally dont subscribe to his dry
    > > British humor, I understood he was just trying to funny.

    >
    > Does Gordon have PR? *I guess this is their way of excusing his verbal
    > assault on that female reporter in Australia.
    >
    > http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,525334,00.html
    >
    > nancy


    Verbal assault? I find it interesting how hypocritical the Australian
    press is. Every week on "Good News Week" the host (Paul McDermott)
    shreds people of every walk of life, especially Christians and never a
    word is said about it. Gordon Ramsey cracks a JOKE about a "news
    reader" and the Prime Minister gets involved?

    Americans (or as they call us on free to air television in Australia
    "Yanks") are usually a favored target in the media. Australians just
    can't handle a non-Australian making a joke about one of their own...


  4. #4
    David Harmon Guest

    Default Re: Chef Gordon Ramsey in Melbourne

    On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 03:06:49 -0700 (PDT) in rec.food.cooking, guardian
    Snow <[email protected]> wrote,
    >A lot of people attack Chef Ramsey because he does have a foul mouth
    >at times


    No, but because he has a foul mouth at ALL times. It's habitual; he
    exhibits no control over what his mouth puts out. There is a place for
    profanity, but Ramsey knows no place.

    "I've been accused of vulgarity. I say that's bull****."
    -- Mel Brooks

  5. #5
    Shawn Martin Guest

    Default Re: Chef Gordon Ramsey in Melbourne


    "David Harmon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected] m...
    > On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 03:06:49 -0700 (PDT) in rec.food.cooking, guardian
    > Snow <[email protected]> wrote,
    >>A lot of people attack Chef Ramsey because he does have a foul mouth
    >>at times

    >
    > No, but because he has a foul mouth at ALL times. It's habitual; he
    > exhibits no control over what his mouth puts out. There is a place for
    > profanity, but Ramsey knows no place.


    Have you ever worked in a commercial kitchen? I mean a real one, where a 2
    hour lunch run might bring in $2000.00?

    I have worked on more polite construction sites.



  6. #6
    Rhonda Anderson Guest

    Default Re: Chef Gordon Ramsey in Melbourne

    guardian Snow <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    > On Jun 9, 10:44*pm, "Nancy Young" <rjynly...@comcast.net> wrote:


    >>
    >> Does Gordon have PR? *I guess this is their way of excusing his
    >> verbal assault on that female reporter in Australia.
    >>
    >> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,525334,00.html
    >>
    >> nancy

    >
    > Verbal assault? I find it interesting how hypocritical the Australian
    > press is. Every week on "Good News Week" the host (Paul McDermott)
    > shreds people of every walk of life, especially Christians and never a
    > word is said about it. Gordon Ramsey cracks a JOKE about a "news
    > reader" and the Prime Minister gets involved?
    >
    > Americans (or as they call us on free to air television in Australia
    > "Yanks") are usually a favored target in the media. Australians just
    > can't handle a non-Australian making a joke about one of their own...


    You know, Good News Week is a comedy current affairs show which features
    quite a bit of satire. You expect that people are going to get
    "shredded", and as a fairly regular watcher I can't say that I've
    noticed that Christians are more targeted than any other group.

    Gordon Ramsay isn't a comic, he's not a satirist, he was appearing at a
    food and wine show, as a celebrity chef, and presenting to an audience
    there because they were interested in his food, his cookbooks etc. If
    the reports in the paper are accurate he showed a picture of a woman
    with a pig's face and multiple breasts - regardless of who he compared
    that to, what on earth did it have to do with cooking??? Why would he
    even think of showing that??

    And really - calling someone a pigwoman? How is that funny - what was
    the punch line? Where was the joke exactly? Is there some porcine
    connection with the woman in question that I'm unaware of?


    --
    Rhonda Anderson
    Cranebrook, NSW, Australia

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    For flood and fire and famine she pays us back threefold.
    My Country, Dorothea MacKellar, 1904


  7. #7
    Nancy Young Guest

    Default Re: Chef Gordon Ramsey in Melbourne

    Rhonda Anderson wrote:
    > guardian Snow <[email protected]> wrote


    >> On Jun 9, 10:44 pm, "Nancy Young" <rjynly...@comcast.net> wrote:

    >
    >>>
    >>> Does Gordon have PR? I guess this is their way of excusing his
    >>> verbal assault on that female reporter in Australia.
    >>>
    >>> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,525334,00.html


    >> Verbal assault? I find it interesting how hypocritical the
    >> Australian press is. Every week on "Good News Week" the host (Paul
    >> McDermott) shreds people of every walk of life, especially
    >> Christians and never a word is said about it. Gordon Ramsey cracks
    >> a JOKE about a "news reader" and the Prime Minister gets involved?
    >>
    >> Americans (or as they call us on free to air television in Australia
    >> "Yanks") are usually a favored target in the media. Australians just
    >> can't handle a non-Australian making a joke about one of their own...

    >
    > You know, Good News Week is a comedy current affairs show which
    > features quite a bit of satire. You expect that people are going to
    > get "shredded", and as a fairly regular watcher I can't say that I've
    > noticed that Christians are more targeted than any other group.
    >
    > Gordon Ramsay isn't a comic, he's not a satirist, he was appearing at
    > a food and wine show, as a celebrity chef, and presenting to an
    > audience there because they were interested in his food, his
    > cookbooks etc. If the reports in the paper are accurate he showed a
    > picture of a woman with a pig's face and multiple breasts -
    > regardless of who he compared that to, what on earth did it have to
    > do with cooking??? Why would he even think of showing that??


    I guess he came prepared, or he just habitually carries around pictures
    like that in the event it might come in handy.

    > And really - calling someone a pigwoman? How is that funny - what was
    > the punch line? Where was the joke exactly? Is there some porcine
    > connection with the woman in question that I'm unaware of?


    I don't know what the history is, but it seems like something that would
    be killer hilarious in the 5th grade boys bathroom.

    nancy

  8. #8
    blake murphy Guest

    Default Re: Chef Gordon Ramsey in Melbourne

    On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 08:44:16 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:

    > guardian Snow wrote:
    >> Swearing is industry language. For as long as we're alive it's not
    >> going to change. You've got to be boisterous to get results.
    >> Gordon Ramsay
    >>
    >> Melbourne, Australia (06-06-09)
    >>
    >> I got to watch Chef Gordon Ramsey in action very recently and I was
    >> very impressed by his actions that speak a lot louder than his words.
    >> A lot of people attack Chef Ramsey because he does have a foul mouth
    >> at times and they fail to see that for him its a part of the culture
    >> and where hes from to speak in the fashion that he does.

    >
    > I don't care about how he acts on tv, but I have no doubt he swears
    > for shock value and ratings. If he wanted to change, he would.
    >
    >> Its in the press that Gordon is arrogant and I can tell you by our
    >> conversation and watching him at the Food and Wine Festival that the
    >> things he said about other people were just jokes done to try and
    >> entertain people and while I personally dont subscribe to his dry
    >> British humor, I understood he was just trying to funny.

    >
    > Does Gordon have PR? I guess this is their way of excusing his verbal
    > assault on that female reporter in Australia.
    >
    > http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,525334,00.html
    >
    > nancy


    ....especially since his face is no day at the beach, either.

    your pal,
    blake

  9. #9
    guardian Snow Guest

    Default Re: Chef Gordon Ramsey in Melbourne

    On Jun 10, 1:14*am, m...@dev.nuller.org wrote:
    > On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 07:40:08 -0700, David Harmon <sou...@netcom.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 03:06:49 -0700 (PDT) in rec.food.cooking, guardian
    > >Snow <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote,
    > >>A lot of people attack Chef Ramsey because he does have a foul mouth
    > >>at times

    >
    > >No, but because he has a foul mouth at ALL times. *It's habitual; he
    > >exhibits no control over what his mouth puts out. *There is a place for
    > >profanity, but Ramsey knows no place.

    >
    > >"I've been accused of vulgarity. I say that's bull****."
    > > * *-- Mel Brooks

    >
    > I believe it's just for shock value to up his ratings, book sales,
    > paid appearances, TV ratings, etc etc etc.
    > He's worth a fortune because of his big mouth.


    I'm not sure about that.. Even the Prime Minister of Australia called
    him a "low life" for his joke. To me it looks like he's being
    unfairly targeted for making a joke about an Australian because he's
    not Australian.

    I don't agree with Gordon's foul mouth but I posted because I think he
    was unfairly treated.

  10. #10
    guardian Snow Guest

    Default Re: Chef Gordon Ramsey in Melbourne

    On Jun 10, 9:57*am, PeterL <P...@brissie.aus> wrote:

    > > And really - calling someone a pigwoman? How is that funny - what was
    > > the punch line? Where was the joke exactly? Is there some porcine
    > > connection with the woman in question that I'm unaware of?

    >
    > Rhonda........ "guardian Snow <snowpheo...@eck.net.au>" is a troll.
    >
    > --
    > Peter Lucas
    > Brisbane
    > Australia


    Maybe Kevin Rudd should be calling you a "low life" for your slander.
    No, I'm not a troll, I'm just a guy who doesn't rush to judgment about
    other people just because they make a joke in poor taste.

    I suppose you've never done that, right Peter. Never made a joke
    about somebody famous...

    Hypocrite.


  11. #11
    bob Guest

    Default Re: Chef Gordon Ramsey in Melbourne

    On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 10:02:09 -0500, "Shawn Martin"
    <[email protected]> shouted from the highest rooftop:

    >
    >"David Harmon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected] om...
    >> On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 03:06:49 -0700 (PDT) in rec.food.cooking, guardian
    >> Snow <[email protected]> wrote,
    >>>A lot of people attack Chef Ramsey because he does have a foul mouth
    >>>at times

    >>
    >> No, but because he has a foul mouth at ALL times. It's habitual; he
    >> exhibits no control over what his mouth puts out. There is a place for
    >> profanity, but Ramsey knows no place.

    >
    >Have you ever worked in a commercial kitchen? I mean a real one, where a 2
    >hour lunch run might bring in $2000.00?


    Well maybe not quite *that* expensive, but yes.

    And the only thing that made the volatile chef's foul language more
    bearable (and sometimes laughable - although none of us would crack a
    smile in his presence unless he thought he was telling a joke) was
    that he was French.

    Not that he swore in French that I know of, but his accent somehow
    made the English swear words sound more posh.

    >I have worked on more polite construction sites.


    Now that you mention I have never worked on a construction site where
    the atmosphere was anywhere near as intense as a few hours a
    sweltering commercial kitchen. And I'm thankful I haven't.

    And there might have been some disagreements and a couple of fist
    fights on Class A construction sites when someone "borrowed" someone
    else's tools or did something stupid and dangerous. But no knife
    fights like the one between chef and a Filipino dishwasher.

    At least human blood is easy to wash off stainless steel ...

    It was all hushed up and the dishwasher quietly paid off by the hotel
    BTW.


    --

    una cerveza mas por favor ...

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  12. #12
    Golden One Guest

    Default Re: Chef Gordon Ramsey in Melbourne

    On Jun 9, 9:05*pm, guardian Snow <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:
    > On Jun 9, 10:44*pm, "Nancy Young" <rjynly...@comcast.net> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > guardian Snow wrote:
    > > > Swearing is industry language. For as long as we're alive it's not
    > > > going to change. You've got to be boisterous to get results.
    > > > Gordon Ramsay

    >
    > > > Melbourne, Australia (06-06-09)

    >
    > > > I got to watch Chef Gordon Ramsey in action very recently and I was
    > > > very impressed by his actions that speak a lot louder than his words.
    > > > A lot of people attack Chef Ramsey because he does have a foul mouth
    > > > at times and they fail to see that for him its a part of the culture
    > > > and where hes from to speak in the fashion that he does.

    >
    > > I don't care about how he acts on tv, but I have no doubt he swears
    > > for shock value and ratings. *If he wanted to change, he would.

    >
    > > > Its in the press that Gordon is arrogant and I can tell you by our
    > > > conversation and watching him at the Food and Wine Festival that the
    > > > things he said about other people were just jokes done to try and
    > > > entertain people and while I personally dont subscribe to his dry
    > > > British humor, I understood he was just trying to funny.

    >
    > > Does Gordon have PR? *I guess this is their way of excusing his verbal
    > > assault on that female reporter in Australia.

    >
    > >http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,525334,00.html

    >
    > > nancy

    >
    > Verbal assault? *I find it interesting how hypocritical the Australian
    > press is. *Every week on "Good News Week" the host (Paul McDermott)
    > shreds people of every walk of life, especially Christians and never a
    > word is said about it. *Gordon Ramsey cracks a JOKE about a "news
    > reader" and the Prime Minister gets involved?


    Comparing someone to an old ugly pig is a joke? Must have lost my
    sense of humour somewhere.

    Tracey Grimshaw interviewed Gordon Ramsey and laughed along at him
    poking fun at her. Shae also complied with his *no personal questions*
    demand. The next day he slagged her off to his audience and also
    speculated about her sexuality.

    >
    > Americans (or as they call us on free to air television in Australia
    > "Yanks") are usually a favored target in the media. Australians just
    > can't handle a non-Australian making a joke about one of their own...- Hide quoted text -


    Nonsense. Australians are pretty good at sending ourselves up, just
    look at any od our comedy.

    I am thoroughly sick of people using the "it was only a joke" mantra
    to palm off their nasty comments.

    JB

    >
    > - Show quoted text -



  13. #13
    guardian Snow Guest

    Default Re: Chef Gordon Ramsey in Melbourne

    On Jun 10, 12:29*pm, Golden One <jpbu...@westnet.com.au> wrote:

    > > Americans (or as they call us on free to air television in Australia
    > > "Yanks") are usually a favored target in the media. Australians just
    > > can't handle a non-Australian making a joke about one of their own...

    >
    > Nonsense. Australians are pretty good at sending ourselves up, just
    > look at any od our comedy.


    "Sending ourselves up" Yes and everybody else for that matter as we
    see in your media on a weekly bases on "Good News Week" but heaven
    forbid a non-Australian cracks a joke about one of your "mates".
    Every week Paul McDermot and his crew make nasty remarks about "Yanks"
    and "Christians" and even Jesus and I didn't see the Prime Minister
    calling him a low life.

    > I am thoroughly sick of people using the "it was only a joke" mantra
    > to palm off their nasty comments.


    Take a look in the mirror first then and try a little self
    reflection. Are you really any better then Chef Ramsey that your
    Prime Minister has the right to call it's visitors "Low lifes"?

    Let's be clear here.. I'm not defending the Chef's jokes here but
    aren't we all just big hypocrites with "tall poppy" syndrome? How is
    calling Ramsey a low life any better then his comments? It doesn't
    represent Australia well that your Prime Minister thinks it's his job
    to speak about the Chef for you as a people making comments like that.
    His actions makes you look like a racist banana republic.

    How is dragging up alleged affairs and rumor mongering representing
    you as something better?



  14. #14
    Phil-c Guest

    Default Re: Chef Gordon Ramsey in Melbourne

    guardian Snow wrote:
    > On Jun 10, 12:29 pm, Golden One <jpbu...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
    >
    >>> Americans (or as they call us on free to air television in Australia
    >>> "Yanks") are usually a favored target in the media. Australians just
    >>> can't handle a non-Australian making a joke about one of their own...

    >> Nonsense. Australians are pretty good at sending ourselves up, just
    >> look at any od our comedy.

    >
    > "Sending ourselves up" Yes and everybody else for that matter as we
    > see in your media on a weekly bases on "Good News Week" but heaven
    > forbid a non-Australian cracks a joke about one of your "mates".
    > Every week Paul McDermot and his crew make nasty remarks about "Yanks"
    > and "Christians" and even Jesus and I didn't see the Prime Minister
    > calling him a low life.
    >


    Box of tissues are over there you petulant little delicate flower you

    >> I am thoroughly sick of people using the "it was only a joke" mantra
    >> to palm off their nasty comments.

    >
    > Take a look in the mirror first then and try a little self
    > reflection. Are you really any better then Chef Ramsey that your
    > Prime Minister has the right to call it's visitors "Low lifes"?


    Give me a break ------ Fact is Ramsey even if a visitor
    was just plain egotistical ,rude and did not behave as a visitors
    normally do .
    Ramsey appears a prize wanker and I do not care if he is a decent chef
    he still comes over as an arsehole if he cops a spray from anyone
    fair game I reckon . I also doubt he needs any apologists he acts as
    though he can dish it out there fore he should be able to cop it back .
    >
    > Let's be clear here.. I'm not defending the Chef's jokes here but
    > aren't we all just big hypocrites with "tall poppy" syndrome? How is
    > calling Ramsey a low life any better then his comments? It doesn't
    > represent Australia well that your Prime Minister thinks it's his job
    > to speak about the Chef for you as a people making comments like that.
    > His actions makes you look like a racist banana republic.


    Bull Dust it does --------- only to you perhaps .
    Actually a lot bigger fish to fry and possibly only a politician trying
    to score some points .Thus you are part right but for perhaps the wrong
    reasons.
    Better if he gave Burma or Zimbabwe a spray in my book
    >
    > How is dragging up alleged affairs and rumor mongering representing
    > you as something better?
    >

    IMO your pretty full of it yourself
    >


  15. #15
    Golden One Guest

    Default Re: Chef Gordon Ramsey in Melbourne

    On Jun 10, 11:23*am, guardian Snow <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:
    > On Jun 10, 12:29*pm, Golden One <jpbu...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
    >
    > > > Americans (or as they call us on free to air television in Australia
    > > > "Yanks") are usually a favored target in the media. Australians just
    > > > can't handle a non-Australian making a joke about one of their own...

    >
    > > Nonsense. Australians are pretty good at sending ourselves up, just
    > > look at any od our comedy.

    >
    > "Sending ourselves up" Yes and everybody else for that matter as we
    > see in your media on a weekly bases on "Good News Week" but heaven
    > forbid a non-Australian cracks a joke about one of your "mates".
    > Every week Paul McDermot and his crew make nasty remarks about "Yanks"
    > and "Christians" and even Jesus and I didn't see the Prime Minister
    > calling him a low life.


    They are comedians and it is satire. Gordon Ramsey is a chef slinging
    nasty comments around.

    One of our TV shows here (Chaser's war on everything) has taken flack
    this week for a particularly poor taste stunt.

    >
    > > I am thoroughly sick of people using the "it was only a joke" mantra
    > > to palm off their nasty comments.

    >
    > Take a look in the mirror first then and try a little self
    > reflection. *Are you really any better then Chef Ramsey that your
    > Prime Minister has the right to call it's visitors "Low lifes"?


    I do not need to look in the mirror. I do not sling horrible comments
    around and then run for cover yelling "It was just a joke". What the
    Prime Minister says when asked an off cuff question is his own
    business. If you are asking "Are you really any better then Chef
    Ramsey" to me personally, then yes I am a hell of a lot better than
    Gordon Ramsey because I am not a foul mouthed nasty bully.

    >
    > Let's be clear here.. I'm not defending the Chef's jokes here but
    > aren't we all just big hypocrites with "tall poppy" syndrome? *How is
    > calling Ramsey a low life any better then his comments? * It doesn't
    > represent Australia well that your Prime Minister thinks it's his job
    > to speak about the Chef for you as a people making comments like that.
    > His actions makes you look like a racist banana republic.


    As far as I know the Prime Minister has not stood up and spoken for
    the people of Australia on this matter. He has spoken his personal
    opinion.

    I do not think Kevin Rudd has the idiocy market covered in terms of
    leaders, one onl;y has to look at the sorry thing that was your last
    president, talk about foot-in-mouth disease.

    >
    > How is dragging up alleged affairs and rumor mongering representing
    > you as something better?


    Tracey Grimshaw did not do that. The press is now circling like sharks
    and he is fair game because he expects them to respect his privacy
    while he feels free to make offensive comments about individuals of
    the press.

    You completely failed to address the beginning of my post about what
    he said, and that there was no provocation.

    JB



  16. #16
    Pits09 Guest

    Default Re: Chef Gordon Ramsey in Melbourne

    On Jun 10, 5:46*am, guardian Snow <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:

    Snip
    > I'm not sure about that.. Even the Prime Minister of Australia called
    > him a "low life" for his joke. *To me it looks like he's being
    > unfairly targeted for making a joke about an Australian because he's
    > not Australian.
    >
    > I don't agree with Gordon's foul mouth but I posted because I think he
    > was unfairly treated.


    Sometimes on Usenet you get a feel
    about some ones first post you see .

    Reckon you better stick your opinions about Australia right up your
    clacker
    since you are posting FROM Australia

    And take you hand off it . Looking at some of your posts
    maybe your Missionary zeal as a pastor (as you call yourself)
    would be more welcome in West Bank or Lebanon and far more
    educational for you And take Ramsey with you

    You have called people hypocrites yet a very brief look at some of
    your posts
    show you to be an attention seeking bigot yourself (IMO)

    The sly way of introducing this Ramsey wanker to push your own barrow
    was not the best call PASTOR [sic] and your certainly did not look
    like a
    Pastors post .

    One other poster called you a god botherer to me your just a
    bother
    with an axe to grind -why not just come out and say you dont like
    where you live and cut the crap .

    Back to food here have a few slabs of pork and a good look at your
    self

    Happiness would be observing the good "Pastor" Guardian Snow swimming
    out of Sydney heads
    with Ramsey and Kevin Rudd under each arm
    Toodle pip you TROLL


  17. #17
    bob Guest

    Default Re: Chef Gordon Ramsey in Melbourne

    On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 03:06:49 -0700 (PDT), guardian Snow
    <[email protected]> shouted from the highest rooftop:


    What a gentleman. At least he didn't suggest that she might have
    exposed him to Swine Flu.


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  18. #18
    guardian Snow Guest

    Default Re: Chef Gordon Ramsey in Melbourne

    On Jun 10, 3:07*pm, Pits09 <spamlis...@gmail.com> wrote:
    > On Jun 10, 5:46*am, guardian Snow <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:
    >
    > Snip
    >
    > > I'm not sure about that.. Even the Prime Minister of Australia called
    > > him a "low life" for his joke. *To me it looks like he's being
    > > unfairly targeted for making a joke about an Australian because he's
    > > not Australian.

    >
    > > I don't agree with Gordon's foul mouth but I posted because I think he
    > > was unfairly treated.

    >
    > Sometimes on Usenet you get a feel
    > about some ones first post you see .
    >
    > Reckon you better stick your opinions *about Australia right up your
    > clacker
    > since you are posting FROM Australia
    >
    > And take you hand off it . Looking at some of your posts
    > maybe your Missionary zeal *as a pastor (as you call yourself)
    > would be more welcome in *West Bank *or Lebanon * and far more
    > educational for you *And take Ramsey with you
    >
    > You have called people hypocrites *yet a very brief *look at some of
    > your posts
    > show you to be an attention seeking *bigot yourself (IMO)
    >
    > The sly way of introducing this Ramsey wanker *to push your own barrow
    > was not the best call *PASTOR *[sic] *and your certainly did not look
    > like a
    > Pastors post .
    >
    > One other poster called you a god botherer * * to me your just a
    > bother
    > with an axe to grind * -why not just come out and say you dont like
    > where you live and cut the crap .
    >
    > Back to food *here have a few slabs *of pork *and a good look at your
    > self
    >
    > Happiness would be observing the good "Pastor" Guardian Snow swimming
    > out of Sydney heads
    > with Ramsey and Kevin Rudd under each arm
    > Toodle pip * * you TROLL


    You know, the thing is Australia isn't a third world banana republic
    and it has a lot of wonderful people in it. I don't have an "axe to
    grind", I just wonder why the media has two standards, one for
    Australians and one for anybody else. This isn't your fault but the
    fact that it's considered acceptable behaviour but RACISM is
    troubling.

    Now I can respond in kind to your remarks about sticking my post "up
    my cracker" but then I would be at your level and I have no need to
    be. I'm attempting to have intelligent conversations with rational
    people and hopefully, that's you and the others that have posted.

    At least you have a good sense of humor, it seems you of all people
    should understand Ramsey better then me.


  19. #19
    Mike Tommasi Guest

    Default Re: Chef Gordon Ramsey in Melbourne

    There must be something we can do about this annoyance...


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  20. #20
    Young Martle Guest

    Default Re: Chef Gordon Ramsey in Melbourne

    On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 10:53:50 +0200, Mike Tommasi <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >There must be something we can do about this annoyance...



    Patience, Grasshopper :-)


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