Thread: Burgundy fraud

On 6/15/12 10:10 AM, JT wrote:

> Interesting
>
> off to La belle France tomorrow for a bit of this and that

Ah, but who drinks Labouré-Roi anyway? ;-)

Mark Lipton


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On Jun 15, 10:25*am, Mark Lipton <not...@eudrup.ude> wrote:
> On 6/15/12 10:10 AM, JT wrote:
>
> > Interesting
>
> > off to La belle France tomorrow for a bit of this and that
>
> Ah, but who drinks Labouré-Roi anyway? ;-)
>
> Mark Lipton
>
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Funny, but I quit buying it a number of years ago because I thought
the quality was terrible!

On Jun 15, 9:15*am, "Bi!!" <rvwr...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Jun 15, 10:25*am, Mark Lipton <not...@eudrup.ude> wrote:
>
> > On 6/15/12 10:10 AM, JT wrote:
>
> > > Interesting
>
> > > off to La belle France tomorrow for a bit of this and that
>
> > Ah, but who drinks Labouré-Roi anyway? ;-)
>
> > Mark Lipton
>
> > --
> > alt.food.wine FAQ: *http://winefaq.cwdjr.net
>
> Funny, but I quit buying it a number of years ago because I thought
> the quality was terrible!

Yep, have to go with you on that Bi, found several 2001-2002 bottles
that were terrible. I remember they were highly recommended by an
"expert"

On 15/06/2012 16:25, Mark Lipton wrote:
> On 6/15/12 10:10 AM, JT wrote:
>
>> Interesting
>>
>> off to La belle France tomorrow for a bit of this and that
>
> Ah, but who drinks Labouré-Roi anyway? ;-)

That's what they sell at Carrefour supermarkets... :-)

For incisive analysis, check out this article:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...und-fraud.html

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Steve Slatcher <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...trading-compan
> y-filled-vintage-bottles-cheap-alcohol-multimillion-pound-fraud.html

Hi Steve,

What an article!. I guess it was actually written by someone who does not
have a basic understanding of Burgundy as a wine region.

Starting by the map, in which they say that Burgundy takes the place of
Franche-Comté.

Also, the writer does not understand that "Nuits-St-Georges" is not but a
village in Burgundy and, as such, cannot be part of such a plot.



Getting to the fraud... I agree with what others have said before... not
very interesting wines come with a Labouré-Roi label. I remember having
bought a few bottles in a Spanish hypermarket 10 years ago, when it was not
really easy to find Burgundy save for Lavinia (at Laviniesque prices). And
for the 4 or 5 bottles I tried... only one was drinkable. Not from the
supposedly best terroir, but the one from the best vintage.

s.

On 17/06/2012 09:59, santiago wrote:
> Steve Slatcher<[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...trading-compan
>> y-filled-vintage-bottles-cheap-alcohol-multimillion-pound-fraud.html
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> What an article!. I guess it was actually written by someone who does not
> have a basic understanding of Burgundy as a wine region.
>
> Starting by the map, in which they say that Burgundy takes the place of
> Franche-Comté.
>
> Also, the writer does not understand that "Nuits-St-Georges" is not but a
> village in Burgundy and, as such, cannot be part of such a plot.
>
>
>
> Getting to the fraud... I agree with what others have said before... not
> very interesting wines come with a Labouré-Roi label. I remember having
> bought a few bottles in a Spanish hypermarket 10 years ago, when it was not
> really easy to find Burgundy save for Lavinia (at Laviniesque prices). And
> for the 4 or 5 bottles I tried... only one was drinkable. Not from the
> supposedly best terroir, but the one from the best vintage.
>
> s.
>
Well Santiago,

one drinkable bottle out of 4 or 5 is not such a bad track record for
Burgundy! With very few exceptions, I have stopped buying red Burgundy.
Acidic in their youth, they simply become dull after a number of years
in the cellar. But someone had the guts to pretend that pinot noir is a
great grape...

Yves

Yves,
>
> one drinkable bottle out of 4 or 5 is not such a bad track record for
> Burgundy! With very few exceptions, I have stopped buying red
> Burgundy. Acidic in their youth, they simply become dull after a
> number of years in the cellar. But someone had the guts to pretend
> that pinot noir is a great grape...
>

I have quite a much better rate of success with Burgundy. For red Burgundy,
I enjoy drinking the somewhat affordable wines of Joblot, A. et P. de
Villaine, and when it comes to Cote d'Or, I am pretty happy with some
producers such as Ghislaine-Barthod, Mugneret and many others, not
necessarily the most famous and expensive (which I cannot afford).

s.

Yves <[email protected]> wrote:
> one drinkable bottle out of 4 or 5 is not such a bad track record for
> Burgundy! With very few exceptions, I have stopped buying red Burgundy.
> Acidic in their youth, they simply become dull after a number of years in
> the cellar. But someone had the guts to pretend that pinot noir is a great grape...

I know what you mean. I'm starting to feel the same about Cuban cigars.

YM