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  1. #1
    JT Guest

    Default Burgundy fraud

    http://www.decanter.com/news/wine-ne...lert150612&dec

    Interesting

    off to La belle France tomorrow for a bit of this and that

    JT


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    Mark Lipton Guest

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    On 6/15/12 10:10 AM, JT wrote:

    > Interesting
    >
    > off to La belle France tomorrow for a bit of this and that


    Ah, but who drinks Labouré-Roi anyway? ;-)

    Mark Lipton


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    Bi!! Guest

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    On Jun 15, 10:25*am, Mark Lipton <not...@eudrup.ude> wrote:
    > On 6/15/12 10:10 AM, JT wrote:
    >
    > > Interesting

    >
    > > off to La belle France tomorrow for a bit of this and that

    >
    > Ah, but who drinks Labouré-Roi anyway? ;-)
    >
    > Mark Lipton
    >
    > --
    > alt.food.wine FAQ: *http://winefaq.cwdjr.net


    Funny, but I quit buying it a number of years ago because I thought
    the quality was terrible!

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    lleichtman Guest

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    On Jun 15, 9:15*am, "Bi!!" <rvwr...@aol.com> wrote:
    > On Jun 15, 10:25*am, Mark Lipton <not...@eudrup.ude> wrote:
    >
    > > On 6/15/12 10:10 AM, JT wrote:

    >
    > > > Interesting

    >
    > > > off to La belle France tomorrow for a bit of this and that

    >
    > > Ah, but who drinks Labouré-Roi anyway? ;-)

    >
    > > Mark Lipton

    >
    > > --
    > > alt.food.wine FAQ: *http://winefaq.cwdjr.net

    >
    > Funny, but I quit buying it a number of years ago because I thought
    > the quality was terrible!


    Yep, have to go with you on that Bi, found several 2001-2002 bottles
    that were terrible. I remember they were highly recommended by an
    "expert"

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    Mike Tommasi Guest

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    On 15/06/2012 16:25, Mark Lipton wrote:
    > On 6/15/12 10:10 AM, JT wrote:
    >
    >> Interesting
    >>
    >> off to La belle France tomorrow for a bit of this and that

    >
    > Ah, but who drinks Labouré-Roi anyway? ;-)


    That's what they sell at Carrefour supermarkets... :-)


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    Steve Slatcher Guest

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    For incisive analysis, check out this article:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...und-fraud.html

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    santiago Guest

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    Steve Slatcher <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...trading-compan
    > y-filled-vintage-bottles-cheap-alcohol-multimillion-pound-fraud.html


    Hi Steve,

    What an article!. I guess it was actually written by someone who does not
    have a basic understanding of Burgundy as a wine region.

    Starting by the map, in which they say that Burgundy takes the place of
    Franche-Comté.

    Also, the writer does not understand that "Nuits-St-Georges" is not but a
    village in Burgundy and, as such, cannot be part of such a plot.



    Getting to the fraud... I agree with what others have said before... not
    very interesting wines come with a Labouré-Roi label. I remember having
    bought a few bottles in a Spanish hypermarket 10 years ago, when it was not
    really easy to find Burgundy save for Lavinia (at Laviniesque prices). And
    for the 4 or 5 bottles I tried... only one was drinkable. Not from the
    supposedly best terroir, but the one from the best vintage.

    s.


  8. #8
    Yves Guest

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    On 17/06/2012 09:59, santiago wrote:
    > Steve Slatcher<[email protected]> wrote in
    > news:[email protected]:
    >
    >> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...trading-compan
    >> y-filled-vintage-bottles-cheap-alcohol-multimillion-pound-fraud.html

    >
    > Hi Steve,
    >
    > What an article!. I guess it was actually written by someone who does not
    > have a basic understanding of Burgundy as a wine region.
    >
    > Starting by the map, in which they say that Burgundy takes the place of
    > Franche-Comté.
    >
    > Also, the writer does not understand that "Nuits-St-Georges" is not but a
    > village in Burgundy and, as such, cannot be part of such a plot.
    >
    >
    >
    > Getting to the fraud... I agree with what others have said before... not
    > very interesting wines come with a Labouré-Roi label. I remember having
    > bought a few bottles in a Spanish hypermarket 10 years ago, when it was not
    > really easy to find Burgundy save for Lavinia (at Laviniesque prices). And
    > for the 4 or 5 bottles I tried... only one was drinkable. Not from the
    > supposedly best terroir, but the one from the best vintage.
    >
    > s.
    >

    Well Santiago,

    one drinkable bottle out of 4 or 5 is not such a bad track record for
    Burgundy! With very few exceptions, I have stopped buying red Burgundy.
    Acidic in their youth, they simply become dull after a number of years
    in the cellar. But someone had the guts to pretend that pinot noir is a
    great grape...

    Yves

  9. #9
    santiago Guest

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    Yves,
    >
    > one drinkable bottle out of 4 or 5 is not such a bad track record for
    > Burgundy! With very few exceptions, I have stopped buying red
    > Burgundy. Acidic in their youth, they simply become dull after a
    > number of years in the cellar. But someone had the guts to pretend
    > that pinot noir is a great grape...
    >


    I have quite a much better rate of success with Burgundy. For red Burgundy,
    I enjoy drinking the somewhat affordable wines of Joblot, A. et P. de
    Villaine, and when it comes to Cote d'Or, I am pretty happy with some
    producers such as Ghislaine-Barthod, Mugneret and many others, not
    necessarily the most famous and expensive (which I cannot afford).

    s.


  10. #10
    myxl Guest

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    Yves <[email protected]> wrote:
    > one drinkable bottle out of 4 or 5 is not such a bad track record for
    > Burgundy! With very few exceptions, I have stopped buying red Burgundy.
    > Acidic in their youth, they simply become dull after a number of years in
    > the cellar. But someone had the guts to pretend that pinot noir is a great grape...


    I know what you mean. I'm starting to feel the same about Cuban cigars.

    YM

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