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  1. #1
    greybeard Guest

    Default Appellation help please. France.

    Usually I'm stay as a lurker here, but a question for the francophiles.

    Just completed an annual mixed case purchase of rose for summer,
    ( 'is lordship St. H. territory). Usual purchase of Felines Jourdan and
    Lascaux (languedoc) and came across a new producer that I decided to
    try:

    Le Jarras, Domaine Listel, Vin de Pays des Sables du Golfe du Lion.

    OK I've found this is the coastal strip where the Herault fronts the
    Med.
    Known as the Camargue. Anybody able to flesh this out with more detail?
    And, the grape varietal(s) is listed as "Grain de Gris". Can anyone
    expand
    on this, normal for the appellation?
    Haven't opened one yet, so no TN.

    cheers greybeard.




  2. #2
    st.helier Guest

    Default Re: Appellation help please. France.

    Greybeard wrote ......

    > Usually I'm stay as a lurker here, but a question for the francophiles.
    >
    > Just completed an annual mixed case purchase of rose for summer,
    > ( 'is lordship St. H. territory). Usual purchase of Felines Jourdan and
    > Lascaux (languedoc) and came across a new producer that I decided to
    > try:
    >
    > Le Jarras, Domaine Listel, Vin de Pays des Sables du Golfe du Lion.
    >
    > OK I've found this is the coastal strip where the Herault fronts the
    > Med.
    > Known as the Camargue. Anybody able to flesh this out with more detail?
    > And, the grape varietal(s) is listed as "Grain de Gris". Can anyone
    > expand
    > on this, normal for the appellation?
    > Haven't opened one yet, so no TN.



    Hello bearded one - travelled through this area - just about eaten alive!

    Fascinating area - this is the Rhône delta - almost dead flat - famous for
    horses and red rice - and 40 species of mosquitoes which flourish in the
    salt
    marshes

    Home to one of the largest vineyard companies in France - Les Salins du
    Midi.

    Traditionally one of the largest salt producers in France. Les Salins du
    Midi has diversified by planting over 5,000 acres) of vineyards along the
    Rhône delta coast, from Sète (southwest of Montpellier) to the mouth of the
    Rhône.

    Established in 1883, they were one of the few vineyards that survived the
    Phylloxera fungus that decimated France in the late 1800's. It was the eco
    climate of the Camargue and the periodic flooding of salt marshes that
    prevented the fungus from being established on the Listel vines. Today
    Listel produces 80% of the Rose wines from the Camargue on their 5,000 acre
    domain and is very proud that their vines do not have any American
    rootstock.

    The appellation "Vin de Pays des Sables du Golfe du Lion" includes a wide
    range of wines from the western Camargue. The largest vineyard is the
    Domaine de Jarras, located between Le Grau-du-Roi and Aigues-Mortes.

    Original titled 'Gris de Gris' wine, it is now styled 'Grain de Gris' the
    varieties used may be Grenache, Carignan and Cinsault.

    --

    st.helier


  3. #3
    Mike Tommasi Guest

    Default Re: Appellation help please. France.

    On 17/11/2010 22:57, greybeard wrote:
    > Usually I'm stay as a lurker here, but a question for the francophiles.
    >
    > Just completed an annual mixed case purchase of rose for summer,
    > ( 'is lordship St. H. territory). Usual purchase of Felines Jourdan and
    > Lascaux (languedoc) and came across a new producer that I decided to
    > try:
    >
    > Le Jarras, Domaine Listel, Vin de Pays des Sables du Golfe du Lion.
    >
    > OK I've found this is the coastal strip where the Herault fronts the
    > Med.
    > Known as the Camargue. Anybody able to flesh this out with more detail?
    > And, the grape varietal(s) is listed as "Grain de Gris". Can anyone
    > expand
    > on this, normal for the appellation?


    Listel is your basic low end wine here, though better than most in its
    category. Variety is grenache with some carignan probably, to give it
    some zing. You can get it for about 4 bucks here. Honest industrial
    production with on pretension to be anything other than what it is,
    simple wine, goes down easy.


    --
    Mike Tommasi - Six Fours, France
    email link http://www.tommasi.org/mymail

  4. #4
    greybeard Guest

    Default Re: Appellation help please. France.


    Excellent, thanks for your input gents.

    Getting very dry here in the metropolis, your lordship.
    How goes it in the winterless north?

    greybeard



  5. #5
    graham Guest

    Default Re: Appellation help please. France.


    "st.helier" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:ic2dbf$l35$[email protected]..
    > Greybeard wrote ......
    >
    >> Usually I'm stay as a lurker here, but a question for the francophiles.
    >>
    >> Just completed an annual mixed case purchase of rose for summer,
    >> ( 'is lordship St. H. territory). Usual purchase of Felines Jourdan and
    >> Lascaux (languedoc) and came across a new producer that I decided to
    >> try:
    >>
    >> Le Jarras, Domaine Listel, Vin de Pays des Sables du Golfe du Lion.
    >>
    >> OK I've found this is the coastal strip where the Herault fronts the
    >> Med.
    >> Known as the Camargue. Anybody able to flesh this out with more detail?
    >> And, the grape varietal(s) is listed as "Grain de Gris". Can anyone
    >> expand
    >> on this, normal for the appellation?
    >> Haven't opened one yet, so no TN.

    >
    >
    > Hello bearded one - travelled through this area - just about eaten
    > alive!
    >
    > Fascinating area - this is the Rhône delta - almost dead flat - famous for
    > horses and red rice - and 40 species of mosquitoes which flourish in the
    > salt
    > marshes
    >
    > Home to one of the largest vineyard companies in France - Les Salins du
    > Midi.
    >
    > Traditionally one of the largest salt producers in France. Les Salins du
    > Midi has diversified by planting over 5,000 acres) of vineyards along the
    > Rhône delta coast, from Sète (southwest of Montpellier) to the mouth of
    > the
    > Rhône.
    >
    > Established in 1883, they were one of the few vineyards that survived the
    > Phylloxera fungus that decimated France in the late 1800's. It was the eco
    > climate of the Camargue and the periodic flooding of salt marshes that
    > prevented the fungus from being established on the Listel vines. Today
    > Listel produces 80% of the Rose wines from the Camargue on their 5,000
    > acre
    > domain and is very proud that their vines do not have any American
    > rootstock.
    >
    > The appellation "Vin de Pays des Sables du Golfe du Lion" includes a wide
    > range of wines from the western Camargue. The largest vineyard is the
    > Domaine de Jarras, located between Le Grau-du-Roi and Aigues-Mortes.
    >
    > Original titled 'Gris de Gris' wine, it is now styled 'Grain de Gris' the
    > varieties used may be Grenache, Carignan and Cinsault.
    >

    I had a very pleasant wine in a restaurant in Tarascon last May - only 11
    euros so not high-end but, néanmoins, enjoyable! I have lost my notes
    (dammit) but it came from a small family operation run by a vigneronne and
    her website mentions that she floods the pre-phylloxera vines every 2 years.
    Graham



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