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  1. #1
    KROM Guest

    Default weirdest thing ever..

    I think I'm having the perfect storm of oddness going on with my BG.

    I am putting it in the food group because its food related in that I think
    there's three issues.

    one is a hormonal making me sensitive the other is two trusted food products
    let me down.

    so the combo made my bg the highest its ever been in years.

    what made me mad was I'm a routine eater..I eat pretty much the exact same
    meals every day so unless I am sick my bg is always the same.

    about 83-93

    last week it was yo-yoing as high as 200 it was crazy and I had zero idea
    why

    so I went thru ever food I was eating and found those meatballs spiked not
    only me but my wife who isn't a diabetic

    so I figured that solved that..

    but I was still getting highs and lows and eating next to zero carbs it made
    zero sense

    I got so desperate I was eating just plain chicken breast and boiled eggs to
    figure it out and I was still spiking.

    then I realized it was my coffee!

    so I removed the splenda...still a spike..removed the splash heavy
    cream..spike...so it was spiking me bad just black.

    weirdest thing ever!

    so I think maybe now caffeine spikes me..so I took a caffeine
    tablet..nothing...I tried instant coffee nothing...tried a different
    brand..nothing..tried that coffee again black..spike!

    this was aldis brand copy of dunkin doughnuts coffee..

    it seems that if I think on it Kona never bothers me at all..but Arabica
    does..don't know why

    maybe the pesticides used on those farms?

    but now that I stopped drinking it I'm back to normal

    anyhoo was weird

    KROM


  2. #2
    Susan Guest

    Default Re: weirdest thing ever..

    x-no-archive: yes

    On 1/9/2012 5:06 PM, KROM wrote:

    >
    > so I think maybe now caffeine spikes me..so I took a caffeine
    > tablet..nothing...I tried instant coffee nothing...tried a different
    > brand..nothing..tried that coffee again black..spike!
    >


    Check on this with Chris Malcolm in asd. I think this came up with
    Michael and Chris may've found that fresher coffee does not spike him
    but old coffee does? IIRC, I may be misremembering.

    Susan

  3. #3
    Nick Cramer Guest

    Default Re: weirdest thing ever..

    "KROM" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > I think I'm having the perfect storm of oddness going on with my BG.
    > [ . . . . ]
    > it seems that if I think on it Kona never bothers me at all..but Arabica
    > does..don't know why
    >
    > maybe the pesticides used on those farms?
    >
    > but now that I stopped drinking it I'm back to normal
    >
    > anyhoo was weird


    I drink a lot of coffee; maybe a quart and a half a day. Mostly, they get
    Folgers or Kirkland for me. I love Kona coffee (you know, it's an Arabica),
    but it's too pricey for me to have more than occasionally. The best I've
    found is from www.smithfarms.com/. The owners, Cecilia (Cea) and Bob are
    nice people, too. If you contact them, tell them I said, "Hi!"

    How do you control your BG?

    --
    Nick, KI6VAV. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their
    families: https://semperfifund.org https://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/
    http://www.specialops.org/ http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/ ~Semper Fi~
    http://www.woundedwarriors.ca/ http://www.legacy.com.au/ ~Semper Fi~

  4. #4
    KROM Guest

    Default Re: weirdest thing ever..

    yes I recall that..which is why I switched to fresh brew..

    I am just relieved to have discovered the cause ..it was frustrating to say
    the least!

    I hadn't had that high a raised time since DX

    its now normal again..I went back to my Kona from the one brand "Mcgarveys"
    that I trust and know wont spike me.

    so the meatballs and aldi's brand coffee are out of my universe..lol

    KROM


    "Susan" wrote in message news:[email protected]..

    x-no-archive: yes

    On 1/9/2012 5:06 PM, KROM wrote:

    >
    > so I think maybe now caffeine spikes me..so I took a caffeine
    > tablet..nothing...I tried instant coffee nothing...tried a different
    > brand..nothing..tried that coffee again black..spike!
    >


    Check on this with Chris Malcolm in asd. I think this came up with
    Michael and Chris may've found that fresher coffee does not spike him
    but old coffee does? IIRC, I may be misremembering.

    Susan


  5. #5
    KROM Guest

    Default Re: weirdest thing ever..

    I love my coffee and have never had this reaction to it before.

    the reason I went from my Kona to the other was it was half the cost..lol

    I am lucky in that the Kona I get here is reasonable at 6 bucks for a 13
    ounce bag..its actually cheaper the folders in the same size bag..the aldi's
    dunking doughnuts rip off was 3 bucks a bag.

    before the stupid meatballs and coffee fiasco I was controlling with just
    one met a day in the morning and exercise ad my steady diet.

    now because it sent me off so bad its like starting from scratch..probably
    be a week or so for my body to get back on track...hopefully perm damage was
    done.

    sigh..

    KROM


    "Nick Cramer" wrote in message news:20120110004149.821$[email protected]..

    "KROM" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > I think I'm having the perfect storm of oddness going on with my BG.
    > [ . . . . ]
    > it seems that if I think on it Kona never bothers me at all..but Arabica
    > does..don't know why
    >
    > maybe the pesticides used on those farms?
    >
    > but now that I stopped drinking it I'm back to normal
    >
    > anyhoo was weird


    I drink a lot of coffee; maybe a quart and a half a day. Mostly, they get
    Folgers or Kirkland for me. I love Kona coffee (you know, it's an Arabica),
    but it's too pricey for me to have more than occasionally. The best I've
    found is from www.smithfarms.com/. The owners, Cecilia (Cea) and Bob are
    nice people, too. If you contact them, tell them I said, "Hi!"

    How do you control your BG?

    --
    Nick, KI6VAV. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their
    families: https://semperfifund.org https://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/
    http://www.specialops.org/ http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/ ~Semper Fi~
    http://www.woundedwarriors.ca/ http://www.legacy.com.au/ ~Semper Fi~


  6. #6
    Tiger Lily Guest

    Default Re: weirdest thing ever..

    On 1/9/2012 3:06 PM, KROM wrote:
    > I think I'm having the perfect storm of oddness going on with my BG.
    >
    > I am putting it in the food group because its food related in that I
    > think there's three issues.
    >
    > one is a hormonal making me sensitive the other is two trusted food
    > products let me down.
    >
    > so the combo made my bg the highest its ever been in years.
    >
    > what made me mad was I'm a routine eater..I eat pretty much the exact
    > same meals every day so unless I am sick my bg is always the same.
    >
    > about 83-93
    >
    > last week it was yo-yoing as high as 200 it was crazy and I had zero
    > idea why
    >
    > so I went thru ever food I was eating and found those meatballs spiked
    > not only me but my wife who isn't a diabetic
    >
    > so I figured that solved that..
    >
    > but I was still getting highs and lows and eating next to zero carbs it
    > made zero sense
    >
    > I got so desperate I was eating just plain chicken breast and boiled
    > eggs to figure it out and I was still spiking.
    >
    > then I realized it was my coffee!
    >
    > so I removed the splenda...still a spike..removed the splash heavy
    > cream..spike...so it was spiking me bad just black.
    >
    > weirdest thing ever!
    >
    > so I think maybe now caffeine spikes me..so I took a caffeine
    > tablet..nothing...I tried instant coffee nothing...tried a different
    > brand..nothing..tried that coffee again black..spike!
    >
    > this was aldis brand copy of dunkin doughnuts coffee..
    >
    > it seems that if I think on it Kona never bothers me at all..but Arabica
    > does..don't know why
    >
    > maybe the pesticides used on those farms?
    >
    > but now that I stopped drinking it I'm back to normal
    >
    > anyhoo was weird
    >
    > KROM
    >


    some mysteries just don't ever make sense do they?

    i know when i was first diagnosed with diabetes, i was NOT allowed to
    drink coffee

    that lasted until i got out of hospital!

    stress/adrenaline can either significantly raise OR lower my bg
    levels...... i do see a correlation with positive stress/lower bg and
    negative stress/higher bg

    having said that....... the stress response isn't 100%, i have to be on
    my toes and test/correct/test as need be

    glad you found the meatballs were causing a problem, wonder how much
    sugar they put in them! sigh

    kate

  7. #7
    Susan Guest

    Default Re: weirdest thing ever..

    x-no-archive: yes

    On 1/10/2012 2:39 PM, KROM wrote:
    > I love my coffee and have never had this reaction to it before.
    >
    > the reason I went from my Kona to the other was it was half the cost..lol
    >
    > I am lucky in that the Kona I get here is reasonable at 6 bucks for a 13
    > ounce bag..its actually cheaper the folders in the same size bag..the
    > aldi's dunking doughnuts rip off was 3 bucks a bag.
    >


    That's kona at that price, or kona "style?"

    Kona typical cost (it's much higher in caffeine, IIRC) is closer to $30
    per lb, no?

    Susan



  8. #8
    Tiger Lily Guest

    Default Re: weirdest thing ever..

    On 1/10/2012 12:39 PM, KROM wrote:
    > now because it sent me off so bad its like starting from
    > scratch..probably be a week or so for my body to get back on
    > track...hopefully no perm damage was done.
    >
    > sigh..
    >
    > KROM


    oh ya, the body sure likes to hold on to those higher levels doesn't it?
    All part of the human body system that we need to learn to live with.

    short term bg spikes shouldn't cause perm damage, but they are
    theorizing that statement, no real proof, as Gys noted in his post on ASD

    kate

  9. #9
    Ozgirl Guest

    Default Re: weirdest thing ever..

    You mention Aldi had a Dunkin' Donuts "style". Perhaps the style has
    been replicated by use of additives? I haven't been able to find a
    product online that shows ingredients and I don't know the full name of
    the coffee anyway.

    "KROM" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:jei3rs$bd5$[email protected]..
    > yes I recall that..which is why I switched to fresh brew..
    >
    > I am just relieved to have discovered the cause ..it was frustrating
    > to say the least!
    >
    > I hadn't had that high a raised time since DX
    >
    > its now normal again..I went back to my Kona from the one brand
    > "Mcgarveys" that I trust and know wont spike me.
    >
    > so the meatballs and aldi's brand coffee are out of my universe..lol
    >
    > KROM
    >
    >
    > "Susan" wrote in message news:[email protected]..
    >
    > x-no-archive: yes
    >
    > On 1/9/2012 5:06 PM, KROM wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> so I think maybe now caffeine spikes me..so I took a caffeine
    >> tablet..nothing...I tried instant coffee nothing...tried a different
    >> brand..nothing..tried that coffee again black..spike!
    >>

    >
    > Check on this with Chris Malcolm in asd. I think this came up with
    > Michael and Chris may've found that fresher coffee does not spike him
    > but old coffee does? IIRC, I may be misremembering.
    >
    > Susan
    >


  10. #10
    KROM Guest

    Default Re: weirdest thing ever..

    this is real Kona..its delicious..like liquid butter..

    most other coffees taste of dirt and burnt woods etc..this is pure butter
    and chocolate notes with a hint of vanilla

    sadly systems so carb sensitive again I cant drink my cream or non dairy
    creamer which never spiked me ever now does ..got to wait till my body
    returns to normal..stinks..I love my java..

    KROM




    "Susan" wrote in message news:[email protected]..

    x-no-archive: yes

    On 1/10/2012 2:39 PM, KROM wrote:
    > I love my coffee and have never had this reaction to it before.
    >
    > the reason I went from my Kona to the other was it was half the cost..lol
    >
    > I am lucky in that the Kona I get here is reasonable at 6 bucks for a 13
    > ounce bag..its actually cheaper the folders in the same size bag..the
    > aldi's dunking doughnuts rip off was 3 bucks a bag.
    >


    That's kona at that price, or kona "style?"

    Kona typical cost (it's much higher in caffeine, IIRC) is closer to $30
    per lb, no?

    Susan


  11. #11
    KROM Guest

    Default Re: weirdest thing ever..

    normally caffeine and pretty much anything with a ratio of 30 carb 40
    protein and 30 percent fat wont spike me unless itís a dead simple carb like
    candy.

    I am a simple eater though so rarely change my diet I could eat three peanut
    butter sandwiches a day for the rest of my life...I might crave chocolate or
    steak time to time but rarely.

    its funny because I love food and I love to cook but if I was told all I
    could ever eat for the rest of my life was pork chops for all meals id not
    be that bothered by it.

    those meatballs were labeled as one carb per serving and rest protein and
    fat which should never spike me ever.

    they did and even spiked my wife who isn't a diabetic...was crazy.

    once I figured out it was them and the coffee I cut those out but am still
    so carb sensitive that even a splash of heavy cream can spike me.

    Stress will raise me but only extreme stress and I am glad to say not had
    that often

    KROM


    "Tiger Lily" wrote in message news:[email protected]..

    On 1/9/2012 3:06 PM, KROM wrote:
    > I think I'm having the perfect storm of oddness going on with my BG.
    >
    > I am putting it in the food group because its food related in that I
    > think there's three issues.
    >
    > one is a hormonal making me sensitive the other is two trusted food
    > products let me down.
    >
    > so the combo made my bg the highest its ever been in years.
    >
    > what made me mad was I'm a routine eater..I eat pretty much the exact
    > same meals every day so unless I am sick my bg is always the same.
    >
    > about 83-93
    >
    > last week it was yo-yoing as high as 200 it was crazy and I had zero
    > idea why
    >
    > so I went thru ever food I was eating and found those meatballs spiked
    > not only me but my wife who isn't a diabetic
    >
    > so I figured that solved that..
    >
    > but I was still getting highs and lows and eating next to zero carbs it
    > made zero sense
    >
    > I got so desperate I was eating just plain chicken breast and boiled
    > eggs to figure it out and I was still spiking.
    >
    > then I realized it was my coffee!
    >
    > so I removed the splenda...still a spike..removed the splash heavy
    > cream..spike...so it was spiking me bad just black.
    >
    > weirdest thing ever!
    >
    > so I think maybe now caffeine spikes me..so I took a caffeine
    > tablet..nothing...I tried instant coffee nothing...tried a different
    > brand..nothing..tried that coffee again black..spike!
    >
    > this was aldis brand copy of dunkin doughnuts coffee..
    >
    > it seems that if I think on it Kona never bothers me at all..but Arabica
    > does..don't know why
    >
    > maybe the pesticides used on those farms?
    >
    > but now that I stopped drinking it I'm back to normal
    >
    > anyhoo was weird
    >
    > KROM
    >


    some mysteries just don't ever make sense do they?

    i know when i was first diagnosed with diabetes, i was NOT allowed to
    drink coffee

    that lasted until i got out of hospital!

    stress/adrenaline can either significantly raise OR lower my bg
    levels...... i do see a correlation with positive stress/lower bg and
    negative stress/higher bg

    having said that....... the stress response isn't 100%, i have to be on
    my toes and test/correct/test as need be

    glad you found the meatballs were causing a problem, wonder how much
    sugar they put in them! sigh

    kate


  12. #12
    KROM Guest

    Default Re: weirdest thing ever..

    http://www.aldisreviews.com/archives/41

    says aldis is in the UK do you have them in oz?

    they are new to my area..I like some of their stuff and its cheap..but like
    I got onions from them and they smelled and tasted like rotted fish..was
    gross!

    after more digging some sites list their coffee as having carbs which isn't
    on the label...odd

    how and why would u add carbs to a unground beans??

    curious..

    KROM


    "Ozgirl" wrote in message news:[email protected]..

    You mention Aldi had a Dunkin' Donuts "style". Perhaps the style has
    been replicated by use of additives? I haven't been able to find a
    product online that shows ingredients and I don't know the full name of
    the coffee anyway.

    "KROM" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:jei3rs$bd5$[email protected]..
    > yes I recall that..which is why I switched to fresh brew..
    >
    > I am just relieved to have discovered the cause ..it was frustrating to
    > say the least!
    >
    > I hadn't had that high a raised time since DX
    >
    > its now normal again..I went back to my Kona from the one brand
    > "Mcgarveys" that I trust and know wont spike me.
    >
    > so the meatballs and aldi's brand coffee are out of my universe..lol
    >
    > KROM
    >
    >
    > "Susan" wrote in message news:[email protected]..
    >
    > x-no-archive: yes
    >
    > On 1/9/2012 5:06 PM, KROM wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> so I think maybe now caffeine spikes me..so I took a caffeine
    >> tablet..nothing...I tried instant coffee nothing...tried a different
    >> brand..nothing..tried that coffee again black..spike!
    >>

    >
    > Check on this with Chris Malcolm in asd. I think this came up with
    > Michael and Chris may've found that fresher coffee does not spike him
    > but old coffee does? IIRC, I may be misremembering.
    >
    > Susan
    >



  13. #13
    Tiger Lily Guest

    Default Re: weirdest thing ever..

    On 1/11/2012 2:50 PM, KROM wrote:
    > normally caffeine and pretty much anything with a ratio of 30 carb 40
    > protein and 30 percent fat wont spike me unless itís a dead simple carb
    > like candy.
    >
    > I am a simple eater though so rarely change my diet I could eat three
    > peanut butter sandwiches a day for the rest of my life...I might crave
    > chocolate or steak time to time but rarely.
    >
    > its funny because I love food and I love to cook but if I was told all I
    > could ever eat for the rest of my life was pork chops for all meals id
    > not be that bothered by it.
    >
    > those meatballs were labeled as one carb per serving and rest protein
    > and fat which should never spike me ever.
    >
    > they did and even spiked my wife who isn't a diabetic...was crazy.
    >
    > once I figured out it was them and the coffee I cut those out but am
    > still so carb sensitive that even a splash of heavy cream can spike me.
    >
    > Stress will raise me but only extreme stress and I am glad to say not
    > had that often
    >
    > KROM


    KROM

    I'm stuck on those meatballs......... were they full of sulphates and
    sulphites? Allergies will raise my bg in foods that shouldn't do that
    at all......... found that one out the hard way.

    jus thinkin

    kate

  14. #14
    Ozgirl Guest

    Default Re: weirdest thing ever..



    "KROM" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:jel0il$pfq$[email protected]..
    > http://www.aldisreviews.com/archives/41
    >
    > says aldis is in the UK do you have them in oz?


    Yes, we have had Aldi for years, without them we wouldn't get to eat
    much

    > they are new to my area..I like some of their stuff and its cheap..but
    > like I got onions from them and they smelled and tasted like rotted
    > fish..was gross!


    I don't but fruit and vegetables from them. Everything is quite old, as
    in grown too long and little flavour.

    > after more digging some sites list their coffee as having carbs which
    > isn't on the label...odd
    >
    > how and why would u add carbs to a unground beans??


    Dunno, lol. Inject them? I am curious as to how a bean can be made to
    resemble dunkin' donuts style. But I am not a coffee drinker in general.



  15. #15
    KROM Guest

    Default Re: weirdest thing ever..

    I have eaten the same meatballs many times they were a new product and as
    usual were made with real ingredient etc to hook you and now have gone cheap
    using fillers and delivering a barely meat ..meatball with the same
    label..and I am sure if called on it would be forced to change the label.

    as I said before it happens all the time with products.

    look at Twinkies...they want to know why they aren't popular and the
    business is failed...well the simple answer is they messed them up..they are
    gross..they aren't Twinkies anymore and haven't been for years.

    the yummy sponge cake made yellow from egg yolks is now a weird wet
    substance thatís colored with chemicals and the cream which was once real
    cream is now Crisco and high fructose corn syrup.

    its gross..everyone says its gross..but its cheaper for them to make it fake
    and probably far longer shelf life .

    my last Twinkie about ten years ago was gross then and I hear its worse
    now...yuk

    the meatballs were bland and weird textured and clearly changed from the
    "get ya hooked" version

    KROM




    "Tiger Lily" wrote in message news:[email protected]..

    On 1/11/2012 2:50 PM, KROM wrote:
    > normally caffeine and pretty much anything with a ratio of 30 carb 40
    > protein and 30 percent fat wont spike me unless itís a dead simple carb
    > like candy.
    >
    > I am a simple eater though so rarely change my diet I could eat three
    > peanut butter sandwiches a day for the rest of my life...I might crave
    > chocolate or steak time to time but rarely.
    >
    > its funny because I love food and I love to cook but if I was told all I
    > could ever eat for the rest of my life was pork chops for all meals id
    > not be that bothered by it.
    >
    > those meatballs were labeled as one carb per serving and rest protein
    > and fat which should never spike me ever.
    >
    > they did and even spiked my wife who isn't a diabetic...was crazy.
    >
    > once I figured out it was them and the coffee I cut those out but am
    > still so carb sensitive that even a splash of heavy cream can spike me.
    >
    > Stress will raise me but only extreme stress and I am glad to say not
    > had that often
    >
    > KROM


    KROM

    I'm stuck on those meatballs......... were they full of sulphates and
    sulphites? Allergies will raise my bg in foods that shouldn't do that
    at all......... found that one out the hard way.

    jus thinkin

    kate


  16. #16
    KROM Guest

    Default Re: weirdest thing ever..

    I assumed they meant the blend of beans they use..but maybe not..lol

    I am sure if my body hadn't been messed up by the crazy meatballs id have
    never noticed.

    the coffee doesnít spike my wife just me but the meatballs got us both so
    those must be crazy bad to spike a non diabetic like they did.

    but the Beaumont <aldis brand> coffee spikes me right now when the Kona and
    even folders instant does not.

    KROM


    "Ozgirl" wrote in message news:[email protected]..



    "KROM" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:jel0il$pfq$[email protected]..
    > http://www.aldisreviews.com/archives/41
    >
    > says aldis is in the UK do you have them in oz?


    Yes, we have had Aldi for years, without them we wouldn't get to eat
    much

    > they are new to my area..I like some of their stuff and its cheap..but
    > like I got onions from them and they smelled and tasted like rotted
    > fish..was gross!


    I don't but fruit and vegetables from them. Everything is quite old, as
    in grown too long and little flavour.

    > after more digging some sites list their coffee as having carbs which
    > isn't on the label...odd
    >
    > how and why would u add carbs to a unground beans??


    Dunno, lol. Inject them? I am curious as to how a bean can be made to
    resemble dunkin' donuts style. But I am not a coffee drinker in general.


  17. #17
    W. Baker Guest

    Default Re: weirdest thing ever..

    KROM <[email protected]> wrote:
    : I have eaten the same meatballs many times they were a new product and as
    : usual were made with real ingredient etc to hook you and now have gone cheap
    : using fillers and delivering a barely meat ..meatball with the same
    : label..and I am sure if called on it would be forced to change the label.

    : as I said before it happens all the time with products.

    : look at Twinkies...they want to know why they aren't popular and the
    : business is failed...well the simple answer is they messed them up..they are
    : gross..they aren't Twinkies anymore and haven't been for years.

    : the yummy sponge cake made yellow from egg yolks is now a weird wet
    : substance that?s colored with chemicals and the cream which was once real
    : cream is now Crisco and high fructose corn syrup.

    : its gross..everyone says its gross..but its cheaper for them to make it fake
    : and probably far longer shelf life .

    : my last Twinkie about ten years ago was gross then and I hear its worse
    : now...yuk

    : the meatballs were bland and weird textured and clearly changed from the
    : "get ya hooked" version

    : KROM

    I have no memory of Twinkie ever having "real cream" or a real cream
    tasste in the filling. They wee always regarded as pure junk food and we
    kids loven them. They wee the first choice for out monthly birthday
    parties when I was in th efourth grade, but we had to get the cupkakes
    with hard icing and white filling because hey were a pack of 2 for 5Cents,
    while the Teinkies cos twice as much and we each got 1 item along with
    juice for those parties(alwasy held AFTER lunch).

    I loved then at 9, but didn't once I became an adult.

    Wendy

  18. #18
    Susan Guest

    Default Re: weirdest thing ever..

    x-no-archive: yes

    On 1/12/2012 5:04 PM, W. Baker wrote:

    > I loved then at 9, but didn't once I became an adult.
    >


    Devil Dogs for me... I'd eat a whole box of 12 in one afternoon or evening.

    I can remember the chemicalish cocoa taste and greasy non cream filling.

    Lerved them!

    Susan


  19. #19
    Julie Bove Guest

    Default Re: weirdest thing ever..


    "W. Baker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:jenlde$2mg$[email protected]..
    > KROM <[email protected]> wrote:
    > : I have eaten the same meatballs many times they were a new product and
    > as
    > : usual were made with real ingredient etc to hook you and now have gone
    > cheap
    > : using fillers and delivering a barely meat ..meatball with the same
    > : label..and I am sure if called on it would be forced to change the
    > label.
    >
    > : as I said before it happens all the time with products.
    >
    > : look at Twinkies...they want to know why they aren't popular and the
    > : business is failed...well the simple answer is they messed them up..they
    > are
    > : gross..they aren't Twinkies anymore and haven't been for years.
    >
    > : the yummy sponge cake made yellow from egg yolks is now a weird wet
    > : substance that?s colored with chemicals and the cream which was once
    > real
    > : cream is now Crisco and high fructose corn syrup.
    >
    > : its gross..everyone says its gross..but its cheaper for them to make it
    > fake
    > : and probably far longer shelf life .
    >
    > : my last Twinkie about ten years ago was gross then and I hear its worse
    > : now...yuk
    >
    > : the meatballs were bland and weird textured and clearly changed from the
    > : "get ya hooked" version
    >
    > : KROM
    >
    > I have no memory of Twinkie ever having "real cream" or a real cream
    > tasste in the filling. They wee always regarded as pure junk food and we
    > kids loven them. They wee the first choice for out monthly birthday
    > parties when I was in th efourth grade, but we had to get the cupkakes
    > with hard icing and white filling because hey were a pack of 2 for 5Cents,
    > while the Teinkies cos twice as much and we each got 1 item along with
    > juice for those parties(alwasy held AFTER lunch).
    >
    > I loved then at 9, but didn't once I became an adult.


    I have never ever eaten a Twinkie. And I never would.



  20. #20
    W. Baker Guest

    Default Re: weirdest thing ever..

    Julie Bove <[email protected]> wrote:

    : "W. Baker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    : news:jenlde$2mg$[email protected]..
    : > KROM <[email protected]> wrote:
    : > : I have eaten the same meatballs many times they were a new product and
    : > as
    : > : usual were made with real ingredient etc to hook you and now have gone
    : > cheap
    : > : using fillers and delivering a barely meat ..meatball with the same
    : > : label..and I am sure if called on it would be forced to change the
    : > label.
    : >
    : > : as I said before it happens all the time with products.
    : >
    : > : look at Twinkies...they want to know why they aren't popular and the
    : > : business is failed...well the simple answer is they messed them up..they
    : > are
    : > : gross..they aren't Twinkies anymore and haven't been for years.
    : >
    : > : the yummy sponge cake made yellow from egg yolks is now a weird wet
    : > : substance that?s colored with chemicals and the cream which was once
    : > real
    : > : cream is now Crisco and high fructose corn syrup.
    : >
    : > : its gross..everyone says its gross..but its cheaper for them to make it
    : > fake
    : > : and probably far longer shelf life .
    : >
    : > : my last Twinkie about ten years ago was gross then and I hear its worse
    : > : now...yuk
    : >
    : > : the meatballs were bland and weird textured and clearly changed from the
    : > : "get ya hooked" version
    : >
    : > : KROM
    : >
    : > I have no memory of Twinkie ever having "real cream" or a real cream
    : > tasste in the filling. They wee always regarded as pure junk food and we
    : > kids loven them. They wee the first choice for out monthly birthday
    : > parties when I was in th efourth grade, but we had to get the cupkakes
    : > with hard icing and white filling because hey were a pack of 2 for 5Cents,
    : > while the Teinkies cos twice as much and we each got 1 item along with
    : > juice for those parties(alwasy held AFTER lunch).
    : >
    : > I loved then at 9, but didn't once I became an adult.

    : I have never ever eaten a Twinkie. And I never would.
    IIRC you have never really liked cake and tht kind of sweets, so why would
    we think you might have eaten them oher than as a taste ?

    Wendy?


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