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  1. #1
    Julie Bove Guest

    Default Kitchen Composters

    So apparently I've not been doing my food waste properly. I've been putting
    spoiled produce (sometimes) in my yard waste. Sometimes putting food down
    the garbage disposal (but not very often because plumbers told me not to),
    and mainly throwing the food away. We just threw out a LOT of it! It was
    either stuff I bought for my husband that he didn't eat (and we can't or
    won't) or special stuff that I mail ordered for Angela that went past its
    expiration date.

    Seems I am supposed to put this stuff in my yard waste can as well. When
    they made this change, I don't know. Seems I am supposed to have a kitchen
    composter to put it in which needs to be emptied daily. Says to put baking
    soda in the bottom for odors and vinegar in the lid for fruit flies.

    I know where to get one. The new Bartells (drugstore) around the corner
    sells them.

    Does anyone here have one? Are fruit flies a real problem? Seems like they
    would be.



  2. #2
    Alice Faber Guest

    Default Re: Kitchen Composters

    In article <h7d2ld$2u9$[email protected]>,
    "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > So apparently I've not been doing my food waste properly. I've been putting
    > spoiled produce (sometimes) in my yard waste. Sometimes putting food down
    > the garbage disposal (but not very often because plumbers told me not to),
    > and mainly throwing the food away. We just threw out a LOT of it! It was
    > either stuff I bought for my husband that he didn't eat (and we can't or
    > won't) or special stuff that I mail ordered for Angela that went past its
    > expiration date.
    >
    > Seems I am supposed to put this stuff in my yard waste can as well. When
    > they made this change, I don't know. Seems I am supposed to have a kitchen
    > composter to put it in which needs to be emptied daily. Says to put baking
    > soda in the bottom for odors and vinegar in the lid for fruit flies.
    >
    > I know where to get one. The new Bartells (drugstore) around the corner
    > sells them.
    >
    > Does anyone here have one? Are fruit flies a real problem? Seems like they
    > would be.


    I have my own compost bin outside and a pail that I keep under my sink
    for vegetable waste. I bought the pail from Gardeners.com. It has a
    charcoal filter in the lid for odors that I replace periodically. Even
    though I don't get it outside every day, I've never had fruit flies
    inside and almost never notice them outside.

    --
    "[xxx] has very definite opinions, and does not suffer fools lightly.
    This, apparently, upsets the fools."
    ---BB cuts to the pith of a flame-fest

  3. #3
    Tiger Lily Guest

    Default Re: Kitchen Composters

    Alice Faber wrote:
    > In article <h7d2ld$2u9$[email protected]>,
    > "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> So apparently I've not been doing my food waste properly. I've been putting
    >> spoiled produce (sometimes) in my yard waste. Sometimes putting food down
    >> the garbage disposal (but not very often because plumbers told me not to),
    >> and mainly throwing the food away. We just threw out a LOT of it! It was
    >> either stuff I bought for my husband that he didn't eat (and we can't or
    >> won't) or special stuff that I mail ordered for Angela that went past its
    >> expiration date.
    >>
    >> Seems I am supposed to put this stuff in my yard waste can as well. When
    >> they made this change, I don't know. Seems I am supposed to have a kitchen
    >> composter to put it in which needs to be emptied daily. Says to put baking
    >> soda in the bottom for odors and vinegar in the lid for fruit flies.
    >>
    >> I know where to get one. The new Bartells (drugstore) around the corner
    >> sells them.
    >>
    >> Does anyone here have one? Are fruit flies a real problem? Seems like they
    >> would be.

    >
    > I have my own compost bin outside and a pail that I keep under my sink
    > for vegetable waste. I bought the pail from Gardeners.com. It has a
    > charcoal filter in the lid for odors that I replace periodically. Even
    > though I don't get it outside every day, I've never had fruit flies
    > inside and almost never notice them outside.
    >


    ditto

    coffee grounds (with the paper filter)
    tea leaves
    egg shells
    also go well into compost material

    do NOT put potato peels in the compost, as they will grow!! LOL

    kate

  4. #4
    Julie Bove Guest

    Default Re: Kitchen Composters


    "Alice Faber" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > In article <h7d2ld$2u9$[email protected]>,
    > "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> So apparently I've not been doing my food waste properly. I've been
    >> putting
    >> spoiled produce (sometimes) in my yard waste. Sometimes putting food
    >> down
    >> the garbage disposal (but not very often because plumbers told me not
    >> to),
    >> and mainly throwing the food away. We just threw out a LOT of it! It
    >> was
    >> either stuff I bought for my husband that he didn't eat (and we can't or
    >> won't) or special stuff that I mail ordered for Angela that went past its
    >> expiration date.
    >>
    >> Seems I am supposed to put this stuff in my yard waste can as well. When
    >> they made this change, I don't know. Seems I am supposed to have a
    >> kitchen
    >> composter to put it in which needs to be emptied daily. Says to put
    >> baking
    >> soda in the bottom for odors and vinegar in the lid for fruit flies.
    >>
    >> I know where to get one. The new Bartells (drugstore) around the corner
    >> sells them.
    >>
    >> Does anyone here have one? Are fruit flies a real problem? Seems like
    >> they
    >> would be.

    >
    > I have my own compost bin outside and a pail that I keep under my sink
    > for vegetable waste. I bought the pail from Gardeners.com. It has a
    > charcoal filter in the lid for odors that I replace periodically. Even
    > though I don't get it outside every day, I've never had fruit flies
    > inside and almost never notice them outside.


    Well, that's good. We have to do all foods, including meat and fish.

    I bought a metal composter with two filters but already I have grown to hate
    it! When you lift the lid, the top part comes off in your hand and the
    bottom part with the second filter stays in the container. Also it holds a
    gallon, which seems like a lot but we easily filled it in a day when Angela
    found an ancient bag of Indian Corn (like candy corn but chocolate) and had
    to dump that in.



  5. #5
    Julie Bove Guest

    Default Re: Kitchen Composters


    "Tiger Lily" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > Alice Faber wrote:
    >> In article <h7d2ld$2u9$[email protected]>,
    >> "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>> So apparently I've not been doing my food waste properly. I've been
    >>> putting spoiled produce (sometimes) in my yard waste. Sometimes putting
    >>> food down the garbage disposal (but not very often because plumbers told
    >>> me not to), and mainly throwing the food away. We just threw out a LOT
    >>> of it! It was either stuff I bought for my husband that he didn't eat
    >>> (and we can't or won't) or special stuff that I mail ordered for Angela
    >>> that went past its expiration date.
    >>>
    >>> Seems I am supposed to put this stuff in my yard waste can as well.
    >>> When they made this change, I don't know. Seems I am supposed to have a
    >>> kitchen composter to put it in which needs to be emptied daily. Says to
    >>> put baking soda in the bottom for odors and vinegar in the lid for fruit
    >>> flies.
    >>>
    >>> I know where to get one. The new Bartells (drugstore) around the corner
    >>> sells them.
    >>>
    >>> Does anyone here have one? Are fruit flies a real problem? Seems like
    >>> they would be.

    >>
    >> I have my own compost bin outside and a pail that I keep under my sink
    >> for vegetable waste. I bought the pail from Gardeners.com. It has a
    >> charcoal filter in the lid for odors that I replace periodically. Even
    >> though I don't get it outside every day, I've never had fruit flies
    >> inside and almost never notice them outside.
    >>

    >
    > ditto
    >
    > coffee grounds (with the paper filter)
    > tea leaves
    > egg shells
    > also go well into compost material
    >
    > do NOT put potato peels in the compost, as they will grow!! LOL


    We have to put potato peels in there. All food. We are not actually
    composting it. Just putting it in our yard waste to be hauled away. I
    would assume that a lot of stuff that goes in yard waste would grow.



  6. #6
    Alan S Guest

    Default Re: Kitchen Composters

    On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 21:30:17 -0600, Tiger Lily <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    >coffee grounds (with the paper filter)
    >tea leaves
    >egg shells
    >also go well into compost material
    >
    >do NOT put potato peels in the compost, as they will grow!! LOL


    Excellent. Free spuds:-)

    We've been growing our own in the backyard through the winter; they
    are also an excellent way to prepare the garden beds for spring
    planting.

    Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
    --
    d&e, metformin 2000 mg
    Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
    http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com (Swine Flu, Diabetes and Good Sense)
    http://loraltravel.blogspot.com (North-west to Koumac)

  7. #7
    MaryL Guest

    Default Re: Kitchen Composters


    "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:h7d2ld$2u9$[email protected]..
    > So apparently I've not been doing my food waste properly. I've been
    > putting spoiled produce (sometimes) in my yard waste. Sometimes putting
    > food down the garbage disposal (but not very often because plumbers told
    > me not to), and mainly throwing the food away. We just threw out a LOT of
    > it! It was either stuff I bought for my husband that he didn't eat (and
    > we can't or won't) or special stuff that I mail ordered for Angela that
    > went past its expiration date.
    >
    > Seems I am supposed to put this stuff in my yard waste can as well. When
    > they made this change, I don't know. Seems I am supposed to have a
    > kitchen composter to put it in which needs to be emptied daily. Says to
    > put baking soda in the bottom for odors and vinegar in the lid for fruit
    > flies.
    >
    > I know where to get one. The new Bartells (drugstore) around the corner
    > sells them.
    >
    > Does anyone here have one? Are fruit flies a real problem? Seems like
    > they would be.
    >


    I don't have one, but I put most food waste in the freezer, then into the
    waste can for pickup the night before garbage collection. I also keep the
    garbage can in my garage, then wheel it out to the curb the night before
    pickup. I live in East Texas, and the heat here can quickly create a smelly
    (and insect-attracting) situation if waste is simply dumped into garbage
    cans outdoors.

    MaryL


  8. #8
    Julie Bove Guest

    Default Re: Kitchen Composters


    "MaryL" <stancole1@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LIT[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:4a9f3843$0$23739$[email protected] ...
    >
    > "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:h7d2ld$2u9$[email protected]..
    >> So apparently I've not been doing my food waste properly. I've been
    >> putting spoiled produce (sometimes) in my yard waste. Sometimes putting
    >> food down the garbage disposal (but not very often because plumbers told
    >> me not to), and mainly throwing the food away. We just threw out a LOT
    >> of it! It was either stuff I bought for my husband that he didn't eat
    >> (and we can't or won't) or special stuff that I mail ordered for Angela
    >> that went past its expiration date.
    >>
    >> Seems I am supposed to put this stuff in my yard waste can as well. When
    >> they made this change, I don't know. Seems I am supposed to have a
    >> kitchen composter to put it in which needs to be emptied daily. Says to
    >> put baking soda in the bottom for odors and vinegar in the lid for fruit
    >> flies.
    >>
    >> I know where to get one. The new Bartells (drugstore) around the corner
    >> sells them.
    >>
    >> Does anyone here have one? Are fruit flies a real problem? Seems like
    >> they would be.
    >>

    >
    > I don't have one, but I put most food waste in the freezer, then into the
    > waste can for pickup the night before garbage collection. I also keep the
    > garbage can in my garage, then wheel it out to the curb the night before
    > pickup. I live in East Texas, and the heat here can quickly create a
    > smelly (and insect-attracting) situation if waste is simply dumped into
    > garbage cans outdoors.


    I am starting to worry now.

    Some time last year, my daughter came into the house all freaked out because
    our garbage was all over. Something got into the cans. Opened both cans
    and trash was strewn everywhere. This is why we got the animal proof cans.
    Well our yard waste can is not animal proof. *sigh*



  9. #9
    MaryL Guest

    Default Re: Kitchen Composters


    "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:h7nea1$u13$[email protected]..
    >
    > "MaryL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:4a9f3843$0$23739$[email protected] ...
    >>
    >> "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:h7d2ld$2u9$[email protected]..
    >>> So apparently I've not been doing my food waste properly. I've been
    >>> putting spoiled produce (sometimes) in my yard waste. Sometimes putting
    >>> food down the garbage disposal (but not very often because plumbers told
    >>> me not to), and mainly throwing the food away. We just threw out a LOT
    >>> of it! It was either stuff I bought for my husband that he didn't eat
    >>> (and we can't or won't) or special stuff that I mail ordered for Angela
    >>> that went past its expiration date.
    >>>
    >>> Seems I am supposed to put this stuff in my yard waste can as well.
    >>> When they made this change, I don't know. Seems I am supposed to have a
    >>> kitchen composter to put it in which needs to be emptied daily. Says to
    >>> put baking soda in the bottom for odors and vinegar in the lid for fruit
    >>> flies.
    >>>
    >>> I know where to get one. The new Bartells (drugstore) around the corner
    >>> sells them.
    >>>
    >>> Does anyone here have one? Are fruit flies a real problem? Seems like
    >>> they would be.
    >>>

    >>
    >> I don't have one, but I put most food waste in the freezer, then into the
    >> waste can for pickup the night before garbage collection. I also keep
    >> the garbage can in my garage, then wheel it out to the curb the night
    >> before pickup. I live in East Texas, and the heat here can quickly
    >> create a smelly (and insect-attracting) situation if waste is simply
    >> dumped into garbage cans outdoors.

    >
    > I am starting to worry now.
    >
    > Some time last year, my daughter came into the house all freaked out
    > because our garbage was all over. Something got into the cans. Opened
    > both cans and trash was strewn everywhere. This is why we got the animal
    > proof cans. Well our yard waste can is not animal proof. *sigh*
    >


    I'm a bit puzzled...that is, I can't picture how your yard waste can is any
    different now than before. Don't you place items from your kitchen
    composter into the same container as you previously used? If so, could you
    freeze things (as I do) and then put everything (bagged) into the waste can?

    I had a problem with dogs getting into my waste can when I lived at my
    previous house and couldn't keept it in the garage. I solved that by
    putting stakes in the ground on both sides of the garbage can. These were
    stakes intended for dog tie-outs. They screwed into the ground and had a
    round "connecter" on the top. I used a bungee cord that I crossed over the
    garbage can and connected to each of the stakes. Somewhat awkward, but it
    solved the problem.

    MaryL


  10. #10
    Julie Bove Guest

    Default Re: Kitchen Composters


    "MaryL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:4a9f481a$0$23774$[email protected] ...
    >
    > "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:h7nea1$u13$[email protected]..
    >>
    >> "MaryL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:4a9f3843$0$23739$[email protected] ...
    >>>
    >>> "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>> news:h7d2ld$2u9$[email protected]..
    >>>> So apparently I've not been doing my food waste properly. I've been
    >>>> putting spoiled produce (sometimes) in my yard waste. Sometimes
    >>>> putting food down the garbage disposal (but not very often because
    >>>> plumbers told me not to), and mainly throwing the food away. We just
    >>>> threw out a LOT of it! It was either stuff I bought for my husband
    >>>> that he didn't eat (and we can't or won't) or special stuff that I mail
    >>>> ordered for Angela that went past its expiration date.
    >>>>
    >>>> Seems I am supposed to put this stuff in my yard waste can as well.
    >>>> When they made this change, I don't know. Seems I am supposed to have
    >>>> a kitchen composter to put it in which needs to be emptied daily. Says
    >>>> to put baking soda in the bottom for odors and vinegar in the lid for
    >>>> fruit flies.
    >>>>
    >>>> I know where to get one. The new Bartells (drugstore) around the
    >>>> corner sells them.
    >>>>
    >>>> Does anyone here have one? Are fruit flies a real problem? Seems like
    >>>> they would be.
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> I don't have one, but I put most food waste in the freezer, then into
    >>> the waste can for pickup the night before garbage collection. I also
    >>> keep the garbage can in my garage, then wheel it out to the curb the
    >>> night before pickup. I live in East Texas, and the heat here can
    >>> quickly create a smelly (and insect-attracting) situation if waste is
    >>> simply dumped into garbage cans outdoors.

    >>
    >> I am starting to worry now.
    >>
    >> Some time last year, my daughter came into the house all freaked out
    >> because our garbage was all over. Something got into the cans. Opened
    >> both cans and trash was strewn everywhere. This is why we got the animal
    >> proof cans. Well our yard waste can is not animal proof. *sigh*
    >>

    >
    > I'm a bit puzzled...that is, I can't picture how your yard waste can is
    > any different now than before. Don't you place items from your kitchen
    > composter into the same container as you previously used? If so, could
    > you freeze things (as I do) and then put everything (bagged) into the
    > waste can?


    I didn't have a kitchen composter before and I only placed yard waste in my
    yard waste. I was putting food in the garbage can or down the sink. Mostly
    in the garbage can because we have bad plumbing here and countless plumbers
    told me it was best not to use the disposal.

    However, they changed the way we must dispose of things now. Food must go
    in the yard waste in these biobags that are made of corn. It can not go any
    place else.
    >
    > I had a problem with dogs getting into my waste can when I lived at my
    > previous house and couldn't keept it in the garage. I solved that by
    > putting stakes in the ground on both sides of the garbage can. These were
    > stakes intended for dog tie-outs. They screwed into the ground and had a
    > round "connecter" on the top. I used a bungee cord that I crossed over
    > the garbage can and connected to each of the stakes. Somewhat awkward,
    > but it solved the problem.


    I can't put food in the garage because of rats. And I can't put stakes in
    the ground because I have black top where I keep the cans.



  11. #11
    MaryL Guest

    Default Re: Kitchen Composters


    "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:h7ntbo$5sh$[email protected]..
    >
    > "MaryL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:4a9f481a$0$23774$[email protected] ...
    >>
    >> "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:h7nea1$u13$[email protected]..
    >>>
    >>> "MaryL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>> news:4a9f3843$0$23739$[email protected] ...
    >>>>
    >>>> "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>>> news:h7d2ld$2u9$[email protected]..
    >>>>> So apparently I've not been doing my food waste properly. I've been
    >>>>> putting spoiled produce (sometimes) in my yard waste. Sometimes
    >>>>> putting food down the garbage disposal (but not very often because
    >>>>> plumbers told me not to), and mainly throwing the food away. We just
    >>>>> threw out a LOT of it! It was either stuff I bought for my husband
    >>>>> that he didn't eat (and we can't or won't) or special stuff that I
    >>>>> mail ordered for Angela that went past its expiration date.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Seems I am supposed to put this stuff in my yard waste can as well.
    >>>>> When they made this change, I don't know. Seems I am supposed to have
    >>>>> a kitchen composter to put it in which needs to be emptied daily.
    >>>>> Says to put baking soda in the bottom for odors and vinegar in the lid
    >>>>> for fruit flies.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I know where to get one. The new Bartells (drugstore) around the
    >>>>> corner sells them.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Does anyone here have one? Are fruit flies a real problem? Seems
    >>>>> like they would be.
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> I don't have one, but I put most food waste in the freezer, then into
    >>>> the waste can for pickup the night before garbage collection. I also
    >>>> keep the garbage can in my garage, then wheel it out to the curb the
    >>>> night before pickup. I live in East Texas, and the heat here can
    >>>> quickly create a smelly (and insect-attracting) situation if waste is
    >>>> simply dumped into garbage cans outdoors.
    >>>
    >>> I am starting to worry now.
    >>>
    >>> Some time last year, my daughter came into the house all freaked out
    >>> because our garbage was all over. Something got into the cans. Opened
    >>> both cans and trash was strewn everywhere. This is why we got the
    >>> animal proof cans. Well our yard waste can is not animal proof. *sigh*
    >>>

    >>
    >> I'm a bit puzzled...that is, I can't picture how your yard waste can is
    >> any different now than before. Don't you place items from your kitchen
    >> composter into the same container as you previously used? If so, could
    >> you freeze things (as I do) and then put everything (bagged) into the
    >> waste can?

    >
    > I didn't have a kitchen composter before and I only placed yard waste in
    > my yard waste. I was putting food in the garbage can or down the sink.
    > Mostly in the garbage can because we have bad plumbing here and countless
    > plumbers told me it was best not to use the disposal.
    >
    > However, they changed the way we must dispose of things now. Food must go
    > in the yard waste in these biobags that are made of corn. It can not go
    > any place else.
    >>
    >> I had a problem with dogs getting into my waste can when I lived at my
    >> previous house and couldn't keept it in the garage. I solved that by
    >> putting stakes in the ground on both sides of the garbage can. These
    >> were stakes intended for dog tie-outs. They screwed into the ground and
    >> had a round "connecter" on the top. I used a bungee cord that I crossed
    >> over the garbage can and connected to each of the stakes. Somewhat
    >> awkward, but it solved the problem.

    >
    > I can't put food in the garage because of rats. And I can't put stakes in
    > the ground because I have black top where I keep the cans.
    >


    Okay, but what about my suggestion about using the freezer? That may not be
    practical for you if you have a lot of food waste and little freezer space,
    but it really works well for me. I put food that I am going to throw out in
    a bag in the freezer and then put it all out the night before garbage
    pickup. That pretty much eliminates odor, and that in turn means that it
    does not attract insects and other critters.

    MaryL


  12. #12
    Julie Bove Guest

    Default Re: Kitchen Composters


    "MaryL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >
    > "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:h7ntbo$5sh$[email protected]..
    >>
    >> "MaryL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:4a9f481a$0$23774$[email protected] ...
    >>>
    >>> "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>> news:h7nea1$u13$[email protected]..
    >>>>
    >>>> "MaryL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>>> news:4a9f3843$0$23739$[email protected] ...
    >>>>>
    >>>>> "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:h7d2ld$2u9$[email protected]..
    >>>>>> So apparently I've not been doing my food waste properly. I've been
    >>>>>> putting spoiled produce (sometimes) in my yard waste. Sometimes
    >>>>>> putting food down the garbage disposal (but not very often because
    >>>>>> plumbers told me not to), and mainly throwing the food away. We just
    >>>>>> threw out a LOT of it! It was either stuff I bought for my husband
    >>>>>> that he didn't eat (and we can't or won't) or special stuff that I
    >>>>>> mail ordered for Angela that went past its expiration date.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Seems I am supposed to put this stuff in my yard waste can as well.
    >>>>>> When they made this change, I don't know. Seems I am supposed to
    >>>>>> have a kitchen composter to put it in which needs to be emptied
    >>>>>> daily. Says to put baking soda in the bottom for odors and vinegar in
    >>>>>> the lid for fruit flies.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> I know where to get one. The new Bartells (drugstore) around the
    >>>>>> corner sells them.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Does anyone here have one? Are fruit flies a real problem? Seems
    >>>>>> like they would be.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I don't have one, but I put most food waste in the freezer, then into
    >>>>> the waste can for pickup the night before garbage collection. I also
    >>>>> keep the garbage can in my garage, then wheel it out to the curb the
    >>>>> night before pickup. I live in East Texas, and the heat here can
    >>>>> quickly create a smelly (and insect-attracting) situation if waste is
    >>>>> simply dumped into garbage cans outdoors.
    >>>>
    >>>> I am starting to worry now.
    >>>>
    >>>> Some time last year, my daughter came into the house all freaked out
    >>>> because our garbage was all over. Something got into the cans. Opened
    >>>> both cans and trash was strewn everywhere. This is why we got the
    >>>> animal proof cans. Well our yard waste can is not animal proof. *sigh*
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> I'm a bit puzzled...that is, I can't picture how your yard waste can is
    >>> any different now than before. Don't you place items from your kitchen
    >>> composter into the same container as you previously used? If so, could
    >>> you freeze things (as I do) and then put everything (bagged) into the
    >>> waste can?

    >>
    >> I didn't have a kitchen composter before and I only placed yard waste in
    >> my yard waste. I was putting food in the garbage can or down the sink.
    >> Mostly in the garbage can because we have bad plumbing here and countless
    >> plumbers told me it was best not to use the disposal.
    >>
    >> However, they changed the way we must dispose of things now. Food must
    >> go in the yard waste in these biobags that are made of corn. It can not
    >> go any place else.
    >>>
    >>> I had a problem with dogs getting into my waste can when I lived at my
    >>> previous house and couldn't keept it in the garage. I solved that by
    >>> putting stakes in the ground on both sides of the garbage can. These
    >>> were stakes intended for dog tie-outs. They screwed into the ground and
    >>> had a round "connecter" on the top. I used a bungee cord that I crossed
    >>> over the garbage can and connected to each of the stakes. Somewhat
    >>> awkward, but it solved the problem.

    >>
    >> I can't put food in the garage because of rats. And I can't put stakes
    >> in the ground because I have black top where I keep the cans.
    >>

    >
    > Okay, but what about my suggestion about using the freezer? That may not
    > be practical for you if you have a lot of food waste and little freezer
    > space, but it really works well for me. I put food that I am going to
    > throw out in a bag in the freezer and then put it all out the night before
    > garbage pickup. That pretty much eliminates odor, and that in turn means
    > that it does not attract insects and other critters.


    That's right. We have a lot of food waste and no freezer space at all.



  13. #13
    Jacquie Guest

    Default Re: Kitchen Composters


    "MaryL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:4a9f8c3d$0$23754$[email protected] ...
    >
    > "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:h7ntbo$5sh$[email protected]..
    >>
    >> "MaryL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:4a9f481a$0$23774$[email protected] ...
    >>>
    >>> "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>> news:h7nea1$u13$[email protected]..
    >>>>
    >>>> "MaryL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>>> news:4a9f3843$0$23739$[email protected] ...
    >>>>>
    >>>>> "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:h7d2ld$2u9$[email protected]..
    >>>>>> So apparently I've not been doing my food waste properly. I've been
    >>>>>> putting spoiled produce (sometimes) in my yard waste. Sometimes
    >>>>>> putting food down the garbage disposal (but not very often because
    >>>>>> plumbers told me not to), and mainly throwing the food away. We just
    >>>>>> threw out a LOT of it! It was either stuff I bought for my husband
    >>>>>> that he didn't eat (and we can't or won't) or special stuff that I
    >>>>>> mail ordered for Angela that went past its expiration date.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Seems I am supposed to put this stuff in my yard waste can as well.
    >>>>>> When they made this change, I don't know. Seems I am supposed to
    >>>>>> have a kitchen composter to put it in which needs to be emptied
    >>>>>> daily. Says to put baking soda in the bottom for odors and vinegar in
    >>>>>> the lid for fruit flies.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> I know where to get one. The new Bartells (drugstore) around the
    >>>>>> corner sells them.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Does anyone here have one? Are fruit flies a real problem? Seems
    >>>>>> like they would be.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I don't have one, but I put most food waste in the freezer, then into
    >>>>> the waste can for pickup the night before garbage collection. I also
    >>>>> keep the garbage can in my garage, then wheel it out to the curb the
    >>>>> night before pickup. I live in East Texas, and the heat here can
    >>>>> quickly create a smelly (and insect-attracting) situation if waste is
    >>>>> simply dumped into garbage cans outdoors.
    >>>>
    >>>> I am starting to worry now.
    >>>>
    >>>> Some time last year, my daughter came into the house all freaked out
    >>>> because our garbage was all over. Something got into the cans. Opened
    >>>> both cans and trash was strewn everywhere. This is why we got the
    >>>> animal proof cans. Well our yard waste can is not animal proof. *sigh*
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> I'm a bit puzzled...that is, I can't picture how your yard waste can is
    >>> any different now than before. Don't you place items from your kitchen
    >>> composter into the same container as you previously used? If so, could
    >>> you freeze things (as I do) and then put everything (bagged) into the
    >>> waste can?

    >>
    >> I didn't have a kitchen composter before and I only placed yard waste in
    >> my yard waste. I was putting food in the garbage can or down the sink.
    >> Mostly in the garbage can because we have bad plumbing here and countless
    >> plumbers told me it was best not to use the disposal.
    >>
    >> However, they changed the way we must dispose of things now. Food must
    >> go in the yard waste in these biobags that are made of corn. It can not
    >> go any place else.
    >>>
    >>> I had a problem with dogs getting into my waste can when I lived at my
    >>> previous house and couldn't keept it in the garage. I solved that by
    >>> putting stakes in the ground on both sides of the garbage can. These
    >>> were stakes intended for dog tie-outs. They screwed into the ground and
    >>> had a round "connecter" on the top. I used a bungee cord that I crossed
    >>> over the garbage can and connected to each of the stakes. Somewhat
    >>> awkward, but it solved the problem.

    >>
    >> I can't put food in the garage because of rats. And I can't put stakes
    >> in the ground because I have black top where I keep the cans.
    >>

    >
    > Okay, but what about my suggestion about using the freezer? That may not
    > be practical for you if you have a lot of food waste and little freezer
    > space, but it really works well for me. I put food that I am going to
    > throw out in a bag in the freezer and then put it all out the night before
    > garbage pickup. That pretty much eliminates odor, and that in turn means
    > that it does not attract insects and other critters.
    >
    > MaryL
    >
    >

    I do that especially with fish and chicken...this desert heat can do a
    stinky job on chicken...WHEW!



  14. #14
    Alan S Guest

    Default Re: Kitchen Composters

    On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 08:10:55 -0700, "Julie Bove"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >That's right. We have a lot of food waste and no freezer space at all.


    Buy a bigger freezer. Or an old cheap fridge with a large freezer
    section.

    I have an old fridge in the office that I use for soft drinks and
    beer. It also has a basic freezer section. Not good enough for storage
    of food I will eat, but eminently suitable for all animal scraps that
    are destined for the weekly rubbish collection. To minimise attracting
    vermin to the bin we wrap animal scraps in plastic and store them in
    that freezer until collection day.

    My vege scraps go in the backyard compost heap.

    Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
    --
    d&e, metformin 2000 mg
    Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
    http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com (Swine Flu, Diabetes and Good Sense)
    http://loraltravel.blogspot.com (To Hienghène via Poum)

  15. #15
    Alan S Guest

    Default Re: Kitchen Composters

    On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 04:28:03 -0500, "MaryL"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Okay, but what about my suggestion about using the freezer? That may not be
    >practical for you if you have a lot of food waste and little freezer space,
    >but it really works well for me. I put food that I am going to throw out in
    >a bag in the freezer and then put it all out the night before garbage
    >pickup. That pretty much eliminates odor, and that in turn means that it
    >does not attract insects and other critters.
    >
    >MaryL


    I should have read this first. Exactly what we do.

    Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
    --
    d&e, metformin 2000 mg
    Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
    http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com (Swine Flu, Diabetes and Good Sense)
    http://loraltravel.blogspot.com (To Hienghène via Poum)

  16. #16
    Julie Bove Guest

    Default Re: Kitchen Composters


    "Alan S" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 08:10:55 -0700, "Julie Bove"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>That's right. We have a lot of food waste and no freezer space at all.

    >
    > Buy a bigger freezer. Or an old cheap fridge with a large freezer
    > section.
    >

    And I would put it...where? I have a very small house and no extra
    electrical plugs.

    > I have an old fridge in the office that I use for soft drinks and
    > beer. It also has a basic freezer section. Not good enough for storage
    > of food I will eat, but eminently suitable for all animal scraps that
    > are destined for the weekly rubbish collection. To minimise attracting
    > vermin to the bin we wrap animal scraps in plastic and store them in
    > that freezer until collection day.


    Well, you have an office. I don't.
    >
    > My vege scraps go in the backyard compost heap.
    >

    I don't have one of those. Don't want one and have no place to put one.




  17. #17
    RodS Guest

    Default Re: Kitchen Composters

    Alan S wrote:
    > On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 08:10:55 -0700, "Julie Bove"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> That's right. We have a lot of food waste and no freezer space at all.

    >
    > Buy a bigger freezer. Or an old cheap fridge with a large freezer
    > section.
    >
    > I have an old fridge in the office that I use for soft drinks and
    > beer. It also has a basic freezer section. Not good enough for storage
    > of food I will eat, but eminently suitable for all animal scraps that
    > are destined for the weekly rubbish collection. To minimise attracting
    > vermin to the bin we wrap animal scraps in plastic and store them in
    > that freezer until collection day.
    >
    > My vege scraps go in the backyard compost heap.
    >


    Sigh do the words head and brick wall used in the same sentence mean
    nothing to you at all :-)

    > Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
    > --
    > d&e, metformin 2000 mg
    > Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
    > http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com (Swine Flu, Diabetes and Good Sense)
    > http://loraltravel.blogspot.com (To Hienghène via Poum)



  18. #18
    Ozgirl Guest

    Default Re: Kitchen Composters

    Julie Bove wrote:
    > "Alan S" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]..
    >> On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 08:10:55 -0700, "Julie Bove"
    >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>> That's right. We have a lot of food waste and no freezer space at
    >>> all.

    >>
    >> Buy a bigger freezer. Or an old cheap fridge with a large freezer
    >> section.
    >>

    > And I would put it...where? I have a very small house and no extra
    > electrical plugs.
    >
    >> I have an old fridge in the office that I use for soft drinks and
    >> beer. It also has a basic freezer section. Not good enough for
    >> storage of food I will eat, but eminently suitable for all animal
    >> scraps that are destined for the weekly rubbish collection. To
    >> minimise attracting vermin to the bin we wrap animal scraps in
    >> plastic and store them in that freezer until collection day.

    >
    > Well, you have an office. I don't.
    >>
    >> My vege scraps go in the backyard compost heap.
    >>

    > I don't have one of those. Don't want one and have no place to put
    > one.


    I must ask, why do you have so much rubbish for just two of you? I have such
    little waste my bin only needs to be emptied every 2nd or 3rd week. That's
    me and two teenagers. My recycle bin which is only a fortnightly pickup is
    full in a week (plastics, cardboard, paper etc). We don't have a yard bin
    where I live now. If we have prawns I put the shells and heads in a small
    bag in the freezer. At my old house I had a chest freezer too but that was
    out in the garage because of no inside room. I did the same when I lived in
    a box of a house, couldn't swing a dead cat there.



  19. #19
    Cheri Guest

    Default Re: Kitchen Composters

    "Ozgirl" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..

    > I must ask, why do you have so much rubbish for just two of you? I have
    > such little waste my bin only needs to be emptied every 2nd or 3rd week.
    > That's me and two teenagers. My recycle bin which is only a fortnightly
    > pickup is full in a week (plastics, cardboard, paper etc). We don't have a
    > yard bin where I live now. If we have prawns I put the shells and heads in
    > a small bag in the freezer. At my old house I had a chest freezer too but
    > that was out in the garage because of no inside room. I did the same when
    > I lived in a box of a house, couldn't swing a dead cat there.


    I've always frozen my poultry scraps, fish scraps etc., and put them out on
    trash day. I have very little actual garbage, but I do have a lot of
    recycle. We are on a three barrel thing here. One small barrel for trash, as
    many recycle barrels as we need (they're large) I have one, and as many yard
    waste barrels as we need. I have two of those. They are dumped weekly, and
    the stuff in the freezer doesn't take up much space at all.

    Cheri


  20. #20
    Julie Bove Guest

    Default Re: Kitchen Composters


    "Ozgirl" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > Julie Bove wrote:
    >> "Alan S" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]..
    >>> On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 08:10:55 -0700, "Julie Bove"
    >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> That's right. We have a lot of food waste and no freezer space at
    >>>> all.
    >>>
    >>> Buy a bigger freezer. Or an old cheap fridge with a large freezer
    >>> section.
    >>>

    >> And I would put it...where? I have a very small house and no extra
    >> electrical plugs.
    >>
    >>> I have an old fridge in the office that I use for soft drinks and
    >>> beer. It also has a basic freezer section. Not good enough for
    >>> storage of food I will eat, but eminently suitable for all animal
    >>> scraps that are destined for the weekly rubbish collection. To
    >>> minimise attracting vermin to the bin we wrap animal scraps in
    >>> plastic and store them in that freezer until collection day.

    >>
    >> Well, you have an office. I don't.
    >>>
    >>> My vege scraps go in the backyard compost heap.
    >>>

    >> I don't have one of those. Don't want one and have no place to put
    >> one.

    >
    > I must ask, why do you have so much rubbish for just two of you? I have
    > such little waste my bin only needs to be emptied every 2nd or 3rd week.
    > That's me and two teenagers. My recycle bin which is only a fortnightly
    > pickup is full in a week (plastics, cardboard, paper etc). We don't have a
    > yard bin where I live now. If we have prawns I put the shells and heads in
    > a small bag in the freezer. At my old house I had a chest freezer too but
    > that was out in the garage because of no inside room. I did the same when
    > I lived in a box of a house, couldn't swing a dead cat there.


    Well, I bought some food for my husband and he never ate it. That was the
    first wave. Then we went through Angela's special food which is gluten and
    allergen free and mostly has to be mail ordered. Because of this, I order
    in bulk. A lot of it went uneaten, became stale and had to be thrown away.

    Then there was the candy. Seriously, the kid had a 30 gallon garbage bag
    full of the stuff. Some was in her Christmas stocking, some was in her
    Easter basket. Some was from Valentine's day. Some was chocolate that she
    said she wanted that I had mail ordered (soy and dairy free), but she never
    ate. A lot of it came from grandma and grandpa, birthday parties, etc. She
    never ate the stuff. I have gotten to the point where I have told people
    they are not to buy any candy for her ever unless it is something she is
    going to eat right then and there. She is not allowed to bring any candy
    home!

    After we got rid of that stuff, we are down to the day to day stuff. Last
    night I threw out the buns I bought for sandwiches. I never know if I may
    or may not eat a sandwich. I usually don't. I didn't eat any of those.
    The whole package was thrown out. Then I made potatoes for dinner. The
    peels alone on top of those buns was almost enough to fill the one gallon
    bin. There were also the peels from the onion I used in the hamburger
    gravy. Then there was the leftover gravy. I don't know what to do with
    that. I asked Angela if she would eat it with rice for lunch and she said
    she would not. I didn't want to throw it out (mainly because now it's a
    pain to do so) so I put it in a bag in the refrigerator. It will probably
    eventually be thrown out.

    Tonight I made pasta with red sauce. New kind of pasta. Was rice and
    millet. Very filling. Angela did not go back for seconds as she usually
    does with pasta. So there are two servings left. This was put in the
    refrigerator and may or may not get eaten. We are going out to eat tomorrow
    night. My husband comes home the night after. I don't know what I will fix
    then. The 2 servings of pasta will not be enough for the three of us and I
    doubt anyone will want the hamburger gravy.

    But probably most of what I throw out on a regular basis is produce. I try
    to buy things at Costco because it is cheaper and you have to buy in bulk.
    I have stopped buying some things there that we just can't possibly eat
    enough of or that go bad too quickly, like baby carrots. Some of it just
    spoils before we can eat it.

    We also have a lot of apples and pears from our trees that nobody ever eats.
    Those go straight in the bin.



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