Thread: Interesting article about protein!

"Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> http://michaelbluejay.com/veg/protein.html
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> Don't know if it's true or not but I like it!


Last time I saw protein recommendations they were higher than what I was
used to. I was going by the RDA for a woman my age for years then
suddenly a larger RDA was the order of the day. I think a lot of
diabetics who are eating relatively low carb would need to get the
majority of their protein from meat and fish and possibly cheese.

"Ozgirl" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> http://michaelbluejay.com/veg/protein.html
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>> Don't know if it's true or not but I like it!
>
>
> Last time I saw protein recommendations they were higher than what I was
> used to. I was going by the RDA for a woman my age for years then suddenly
> a larger RDA was the order of the day. I think a lot of diabetics who are
> eating relatively low carb would need to get the majority of their protein
> from meat and fish and possibly cheese.

Could be. I spent many years as a vegetarian and ate a heck of a lot less
protein (that I knew about) than I do know. I used to think that the only
plant protein was in nuts, seeds and beans. And I assumed that I had to eat
a grain to make the beans be a complete protein.

Now I see that all those lunches I had of a vegetable plate (three different
kinds of vegetables) weren't so bad after all!

In article <iludd8$or$[email protected]>,
"Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote:

> http://michaelbluejay.com/veg/protein.html

If it's true how do children get Kwashiorkor?

"Malcom "Mal" Reynolds" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In article <iludd8$or$[email protected]>,
> "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> http://michaelbluejay.com/veg/protein.html
>
> If it's true how do children get Kwashiorkor?

Who are you and what's that?

"Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Malcom "Mal" Reynolds" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> In article <iludd8$or$[email protected]>,
>> "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> http://michaelbluejay.com/veg/protein.html
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>> If it's true how do children get Kwashiorkor?
>
> Who are you and what's that?

Okay I looked it up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwashiorkor

It's rare in developing countries and can come about with a diet that is
high in starches and low in protein. Starches. But they were not specific.
So maybe stuff like rice, bread and pasta? You know...non-vegetable stuff.
Because the link I posted was about vegetables.

On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 20:53:28 -0800, Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds wrote:

> In article <iludd8$or$[email protected]>,
> "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> http://michaelbluejay.com/veg/protein.html
>
> If it's true how do children get Kwashiorkor?

Partly because Cassava contains at most 2% protein, and partly because
there are other factors involved than lack of protein.

Bj?rn Steensrud <[email protected]> wrote:
: On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 20:53:28 -0800, Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds wrote:

: > In article <iludd8$or$[email protected]>,
: > "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote:
: >
: >> http://michaelbluejay.com/veg/protein.html
: >
: > If it's true how do children get Kwashiorkor?

: Partly because Cassava contains at most 2% protein, and partly because
: there are other factors involved than lack of protein.

Like a general lack of food, also called starvation.
I remember those pictures of the kids in Biafra during that war in
Nigeria.

Wendy

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On 3/18/2011 6:47 PM, W. Baker wrote:

> Like a general lack of food, also called starvation.
> I remember those pictures of the kids in Biafra during that war in
> Nigeria.

It always bugs me a bit when someone says "oh, I'm starving" since
seeing those and pictures of children in Somalia in the 90s.

I used to tell my daughter, "children in Somalia are starving, you are
merely hungry." She knew what I meant because she used to read the
newspaper upside down while I sat across from her at breakfast before
school, and had asked me about them.

You cannot survive protein starvation intact, nor fat, eventually you'll
fail, miserably so, with no ability to build or maintain healthy lean
body mass and cells, or all the functions that require fats. But
protein is paramount, and we need more of it for optimal health than
current nutrition guidelines call for.

I used to read and believe that crap vegetarian propaganda and live by
it; that's how I became severely IR.

Susan

In article <iluuiu$jg6$[email protected]>,
"Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Malcom "Mal" Reynolds" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > In article <iludd8$or$[email protected]>,
> > "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> http://michaelbluejay.com/veg/protein.html
> >
> > If it's true how do children get Kwashiorkor?
>
> Who are you

How does that matter?



and what's that?

"Malcom "Mal" Reynolds" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In article <iluuiu$jg6$[email protected]>,
> "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> "Malcom "Mal" Reynolds" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]..
>> > In article <iludd8$or$[email protected]>,
>> > "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> http://michaelbluejay.com/veg/protein.html
>> >
>> > If it's true how do children get Kwashiorkor?
>>
>> Who are you
>
> How does that matter?

Because I don't recall seeing you here before.

In article <im17ma$cg0$[email protected]>,
"Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Malcom "Mal" Reynolds" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > In article <iluuiu$jg6$[email protected]>,
> > "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> "Malcom "Mal" Reynolds" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:[email protected]..
> >> > In article <iludd8$or$[email protected]>,
> >> > "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> http://michaelbluejay.com/veg/protein.html
> >> >
> >> > If it's true how do children get Kwashiorkor?
> >>
> >> Who are you
> >
> > How does that matter?
>
> Because I don't recall seeing you here before.

You're probably correct, but I don't see it as common on newsgroups to ask that
particular question of a new poster.

Consider me an infrequent lurker with the possibility that I will get more
involved...or just someone who thought I had an interesting question







or I suppose I should just ask you who you are? But I won't.

"Malcom "Mal" Reynolds" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> "Malcom "Mal" Reynolds" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> > In article <iluuiu$jg6$[email protected]>,
>> > "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Malcom "Mal" Reynolds" <[email protected]> wrote in
>> >> message
>> >> news:[email protected]..
>> >> > In article <iludd8$or$[email protected]>,
>> >> > "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> http://michaelbluejay.com/veg/protein.html
>> >> >
>> >> > If it's true how do children get Kwashiorkor?
>> >>
>> >> Who are you
>> >
>> > How does that matter?
>>
>> Because I don't recall seeing you here before.
>
> You're probably correct, but I don't see it as common on newsgroups to ask
> that
> particular question of a new poster.
>
> Consider me an infrequent lurker with the possibility that I will get more
> involved...or just someone who thought I had an interesting question

Okay...

> or I suppose I should just ask you who you are? But I won't.

I've been here since 1997.

On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 21:06:28 -0700, Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds wrote:

[snip]

> Consider me an infrequent lurker with the possibility that I will get
> more involved...or just someone who thought I had an interesting
> question

You did, which led me to the Wikipedia about kwashiorkor and further into
nutrition information. I've seen kassava in some shops here, but at 38%
carbs and the danger of cyanide poisoning unless properly prepared I
think I'll pass. Oh, found a bread with only 18% carbs, should be okay
for an evening snack!

>
>
>
>
>
> or I suppose I should just ask you who you are? But I won't.

You'll find out.

my opinion is that protein is overrated. i think the body needs amino
acids, which comprise protein. Amino acids are everywhere in food, also
in plants. when we eat meat, the body breaks the animal proteins first
before absorbing the amino acids. might as well eat amino acids in
plants - healthier.

but it sure as hell doesn't taste as good as an inch-thick bloody steak!


on a side note, I think the whole protein hype and myth was started by
meat producers. It's a billion-dollar industry world wide. I'm sure they
have the money and the power to start a myth or two.




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chefkaren

"chefkaren" <chefkaren.7dcefa8[email protected]> wrote in message
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> my opinion is that protein is overrated. i think the body needs amino
> acids, which comprise protein. Amino acids are everywhere in food, also
> in plants. when we eat meat, the body breaks the animal proteins first
> before absorbing the amino acids. might as well eat amino acids in
> plants - healthier.
>
> but it sure as hell doesn't taste as good as an inch-thick bloody steak!
>
>
> on a side note, I think the whole protein hype and myth was started by
> meat producers. It's a billion-dollar industry world wide. I'm sure they
> have the money and the power to start a myth or two.


Yeah, like the whole grain myth was started by grain producers? And the meat
is bad for you myth was started by groups like PETA etc., You mean like
that?

Cheri

my opinion is that since my father raises cattle for a living i shall
refrain from both lambasting you with my sailor talk capable mouth and i
will also refrain from relaying facts as most here already know them, Lee
"chefkaren" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> my opinion is that protein is overrated. i think the body needs amino
> acids, which comprise protein. Amino acids are everywhere in food, also
> in plants. when we eat meat, the body breaks the animal proteins first
> before absorbing the amino acids. might as well eat amino acids in
> plants - healthier.
>
> but it sure as hell doesn't taste as good as an inch-thick bloody steak!
>
>
> on a side note, I think the whole protein hype and myth was started by
> meat producers. It's a billion-dollar industry world wide. I'm sure they
> have the money and the power to start a myth or two.
>
>
>
>
> --
> chefkaren

"chefkaren" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> my opinion is that protein is overrated. i think the body needs amino
> acids, which comprise protein. Amino acids are everywhere in food,
> also
> in plants. when we eat meat, the body breaks the animal proteins first
> before absorbing the amino acids. might as well eat amino acids in
> plants - healthier.
>
> but it sure as hell doesn't taste as good as an inch-thick bloody
> steak!
>
>
> on a side note, I think the whole protein hype and myth was started by
> meat producers. It's a billion-dollar industry world wide. I'm sure
> they
> have the money and the power to start a myth or two.

I don't think so. Anyway the research is out there regarding how much
protein the body needs, independent research. Most pro plant food amino
acid literature comes from vegetarian websites and books not medical
sites.

"chefkaren" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> my opinion is that protein is overrated. i think the body needs amino
> acids, which comprise protein. Amino acids are everywhere in food, also
> in plants. when we eat meat, the body breaks the animal proteins first
> before absorbing the amino acids. might as well eat amino acids in
> plants - healthier.
>
> but it sure as hell doesn't taste as good as an inch-thick bloody steak!
>
>
> on a side note, I think the whole protein hype and myth was started by
> meat producers. It's a billion-dollar industry world wide. I'm sure they
> have the money and the power to start a myth or two.
>
That very well could be.