Thread: Do you get angry about food?

On 18/04/2012 4:56 PM, Julie Bove wrote:

>
> Why is it some people can do this and we can't?
>
>

Very bad choice of Grandparents !

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On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 23:56:04 -0700, "Julie Bove"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I have been reading all these diet books lately. And according to them we
>should eat everything organic, mainly non-starchy veggies, fish and chicken.
>And apparently not much else. Brown rice is okay for some. The most recent
>book recommended that we (meaning everyone) have a shake for breakfast that
>involved rice protein, pea protein, or chia protein with some ice, hemp or
>nut milk, a little non-citrus fruit, ground flax, walnut oil and some nuts.
>There was another version that involved tofu. On the one hand this Dr. was
>telling us not to eat anything that is processed or has a label on it. On
>the other hand he is telling us we need to slug this stuff down every
>morning. His recipes also involve canned beans. He said we should feel
>free to eat 2 pounds of asparagus or broccoli if we wanted to. Now I like
>most vegetables but even I couldn't eat 2 pounds of them.
>
>So that is how the regular person is supposed to eat. Now if we have
>diabetes or a weight problem or some sort of other medical problem then our
>diet should be even more limited. I look at what we are supposed to eat,
>according to these experts and I just don't even want to eat! It is easier
>for me to just go hungry than to have to force down something I really
>dislike.
>
>So Angela pointed out to me that we are seeing countless people walking
>around eating Subway, McDonalds, donuts, candy, cookies, ice cream, etc.
>They are skinny and they do not have any medical problems. So that kind of
>makes me angry. Not that I want to eat the crap that I see them eating.
>Because I don't. But part of me gets angry that I can't just eat what I
>want to with no consequences.
>
>Why is it some people can do this and we can't?
>

It's simple, they probably haven't had their hair tested yet so they
don't know they're either allergic or intolerant to almost anything
animal, vegetable or mineral currently known to humankind.

Ross.

On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 23:56:04 -0700, in alt.food.diabetic, "Julie Bove"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>So Angela pointed out to me that we are seeing countless people walking
>around eating Subway, McDonalds, donuts, candy, cookies, ice cream, etc.
>They are skinny and they do not have any medical problems. So that kind of
>makes me angry. Not that I want to eat the crap that I see them eating.
>Because I don't. But part of me gets angry that I can't just eat what I
>want to with no consequences.
>
>Why is it some people can do this and we can't?
>

That breakfast shake doesn't even sound good. I think the people
eating that junk may appear to not be affected by it medically, but it
still could be taking it's toll on them and it just hasn't shown up.
With dietary issues it seems to have a cumulative effect. Just like
diabetes, some of us have it, but the early stages don't have any
glaringly obvious signs until it's gotten more advanced. Same with
hypertension and heart disease. You don't see it with them but it
could still be affecting them.

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On 4/18/2012 9:58 AM, Karen wrote:


> That breakfast shake doesn't even sound good. I think the people
> eating that junk may appear to not be affected by it medically, but it
> still could be taking it's toll on them and it just hasn't shown up.
> With dietary issues it seems to have a cumulative effect. Just like
> diabetes, some of us have it, but the early stages don't have any
> glaringly obvious signs until it's gotten more advanced. Same with
> hypertension and heart disease. You don't see it with them but it
> could still be affecting them.

Exactly.

I used to be one of those people. Ate crap, ate like a horse, stayed
skinny.

Susan

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> On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 23:56:04 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I have been reading all these diet books lately. And according to them we
>>should eat everything organic, mainly non-starchy veggies, fish and
>>chicken.
>>And apparently not much else. Brown rice is okay for some. The most
>>recent
>>book recommended that we (meaning everyone) have a shake for breakfast
>>that
>>involved rice protein, pea protein, or chia protein with some ice, hemp or
>>nut milk, a little non-citrus fruit, ground flax, walnut oil and some
>>nuts.
>>There was another version that involved tofu. On the one hand this Dr.
>>was
>>telling us not to eat anything that is processed or has a label on it. On
>>the other hand he is telling us we need to slug this stuff down every
>>morning. His recipes also involve canned beans. He said we should feel
>>free to eat 2 pounds of asparagus or broccoli if we wanted to. Now I like
>>most vegetables but even I couldn't eat 2 pounds of them.
>>
>>So that is how the regular person is supposed to eat. Now if we have
>>diabetes or a weight problem or some sort of other medical problem then
>>our
>>diet should be even more limited. I look at what we are supposed to eat,
>>according to these experts and I just don't even want to eat! It is
>>easier
>>for me to just go hungry than to have to force down something I really
>>dislike.
>>
>>So Angela pointed out to me that we are seeing countless people walking
>>around eating Subway, McDonalds, donuts, candy, cookies, ice cream, etc.
>>They are skinny and they do not have any medical problems. So that kind
>>of
>>makes me angry. Not that I want to eat the crap that I see them eating.
>>Because I don't. But part of me gets angry that I can't just eat what I
>>want to with no consequences.
>>
>>Why is it some people can do this and we can't?
>>
>
> It's simple, they probably haven't had their hair tested yet so they
> don't know they're either allergic or intolerant to almost anything
> animal, vegetable or mineral currently known to humankind.

Buh bye!

On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 10:15:42 -0400, in alt.food.diabetic, Susan
<[email protected]> wrote:

>x-no-archive: yes
>
>On 4/18/2012 9:58 AM, Karen wrote:
>
>
>> That breakfast shake doesn't even sound good. I think the people
>> eating that junk may appear to not be affected by it medically, but it
>> still could be taking it's toll on them and it just hasn't shown up.
>> With dietary issues it seems to have a cumulative effect. Just like
>> diabetes, some of us have it, but the early stages don't have any
>> glaringly obvious signs until it's gotten more advanced. Same with
>> hypertension and heart disease. You don't see it with them but it
>> could still be affecting them.
>
>Exactly.
>
>I used to be one of those people. Ate crap, ate like a horse, stayed
>skinny.
>
>Susan

Me too Susan. I was underweight till I had kids. Now I'm just on the
edge between normal and overweight. I display none of the obvious
symptoms of diabetes. The only reason I know that I have it is that
because my family history, and being monitored after a bout of thyroid
cancer of it my docs follow me closely. Both parents and all my
siblings have/had. My most recent A1c was 5.5 without medications so
far.

"Karen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 10:15:42 -0400, in alt.food.diabetic, Susan
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
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>>
>>On 4/18/2012 9:58 AM, Karen wrote:
>>
>>
>>> That breakfast shake doesn't even sound good. I think the people
>>> eating that junk may appear to not be affected by it medically, but it
>>> still could be taking it's toll on them and it just hasn't shown up.
>>> With dietary issues it seems to have a cumulative effect. Just like
>>> diabetes, some of us have it, but the early stages don't have any
>>> glaringly obvious signs until it's gotten more advanced. Same with
>>> hypertension and heart disease. You don't see it with them but it
>>> could still be affecting them.
>>
>>Exactly.
>>
>>I used to be one of those people. Ate crap, ate like a horse, stayed
>>skinny.
>>
>>Susan
>
> Me too Susan. I was underweight till I had kids. Now I'm just on the
> edge between normal and overweight. I display none of the obvious
> symptoms of diabetes. The only reason I know that I have it is that
> because my family history, and being monitored after a bout of thyroid
> cancer of it my docs follow me closely. Both parents and all my
> siblings have/had. My most recent A1c was 5.5 without medications so
> far.

I used to be underweight but I rarely ever ate crap.

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On 4/18/2012 4:00 PM, Karen wrote:

> Me too Susan. I was underweight till I had kids. Now I'm just on the
> edge between normal and overweight. I display none of the obvious
> symptoms of diabetes. The only reason I know that I have it is that
> because my family history, and being monitored after a bout of thyroid
> cancer of it my docs follow me closely. Both parents and all my
> siblings have/had. My most recent A1c was 5.5 without medications so
> far.
>

Sorry about your T ca, hope it's all gone for good!

Congrats on your 5.5!

My whole family used to be amazed when I ate more than my father and
brother and drank shakes to try and gain weight as a teenager.

Susan

On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 16:24:22 -0400, in alt.food.diabetic, Susan
<[email protected]> wrote:

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>
>On 4/18/2012 4:00 PM, Karen wrote:
>
>> Me too Susan. I was underweight till I had kids. Now I'm just on the
>> edge between normal and overweight. I display none of the obvious
>> symptoms of diabetes. The only reason I know that I have it is that
>> because my family history, and being monitored after a bout of thyroid
>> cancer of it my docs follow me closely. Both parents and all my
>> siblings have/had. My most recent A1c was 5.5 without medications so
>> far.
>>
>
>Sorry about your T ca, hope it's all gone for good!
>
>Congrats on your 5.5!
>
>My whole family used to be amazed when I ate more than my father and
>brother and drank shakes to try and gain weight as a teenager.
>
>Susan

Thanks. Hopefully the T ca is gone for good. I'm 2 years out with
clean scans and blood tests so far. I'm trying to get the weight
down. I find it harder to lose weight now that the thyroid is gone.
I'm going to Weight Watchers for that. I'd be happy to lose 10 lbs.
The 5.5 A1c isn't bad, but the one before that was 6.1. Anyway, I'm
working on it.
Thanks

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On 4/18/2012 6:23 PM, Karen wrote:

> Thanks. Hopefully the T ca is gone for good. I'm 2 years out with
> clean scans and blood tests so far. I'm trying to get the weight
> down. I find it harder to lose weight now that the thyroid is gone.
> I'm going to Weight Watchers for that. I'd be happy to lose 10 lbs.
> The 5.5 A1c isn't bad, but the one before that was 6.1. Anyway, I'm
> working on it.
> Thanks

Have you had your other hormones tested since losing your thyroid? They
all react and may be out of synch. A lot of folks seem to do better
with Tyrosint or Thyrolar, or Naturthroid...

Susan

On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 19:11:19 -0400, in alt.food.diabetic, Susan
<[email protected]> wrote:

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>
>On 4/18/2012 6:23 PM, Karen wrote:
>
>> Thanks. Hopefully the T ca is gone for good. I'm 2 years out with
>> clean scans and blood tests so far. I'm trying to get the weight
>> down. I find it harder to lose weight now that the thyroid is gone.
>> I'm going to Weight Watchers for that. I'd be happy to lose 10 lbs.
>> The 5.5 A1c isn't bad, but the one before that was 6.1. Anyway, I'm
>> working on it.
>> Thanks
>
>Have you had your other hormones tested since losing your thyroid? They
>all react and may be out of synch. A lot of folks seem to do better
>with Tyrosint or Thyrolar, or Naturthroid...
>
>Susan

They run many different blood tests every 3 months. TSH,
thyroglobulin, Free t4, a comp metabolic panel, lipids, A1c and
fasting glucose. I'm not unhappy with the synthroid I take. I feel
good most of the time. I take a dose that most people would find make
them hyperthyroid. That's to discourage any remnant tissues left
behind from producing any thyroid hormone or growing and spreading.

As far as the weight goes, I can do the weight loss, I just have to
work harder at it, and that may be age related too. I'm 54 so not a
spring chicken anymore <g>

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On 4/19/2012 11:22 AM, Karen wrote:

> They run many different blood tests every 3 months. TSH,
> thyroglobulin, Free t4, a comp metabolic panel, lipids, A1c and
> fasting glucose. I'm not unhappy with the synthroid I take. I feel
> good most of the time. I take a dose that most people would find make
> them hyperthyroid. That's to discourage any remnant tissues left
> behind from producing any thyroid hormone or growing and spreading.
>
> As far as the weight goes, I can do the weight loss, I just have to
> work harder at it, and that may be age related too. I'm 54 so not a
> spring chicken anymore<g>
>

I'm glad you're feeling good. I'm just wondering why they're not making
sure your other hormones, pituitary and adrenal are all back in line,
since thyroid abnormalities will trigger changes in them that can also
become chronic.

But if it ain't broke...

Susan

On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 11:43:20 -0400, in alt.food.diabetic, Susan
<[email protected]> wrote:

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>
>On 4/19/2012 11:22 AM, Karen wrote:
>
>> They run many different blood tests every 3 months. TSH,
>> thyroglobulin, Free t4, a comp metabolic panel, lipids, A1c and
>> fasting glucose. I'm not unhappy with the synthroid I take. I feel
>> good most of the time. I take a dose that most people would find make
>> them hyperthyroid. That's to discourage any remnant tissues left
>> behind from producing any thyroid hormone or growing and spreading.
>>
>> As far as the weight goes, I can do the weight loss, I just have to
>> work harder at it, and that may be age related too. I'm 54 so not a
>> spring chicken anymore<g>
>>
>
>I'm glad you're feeling good. I'm just wondering why they're not making
>sure your other hormones, pituitary and adrenal are all back in line,
>since thyroid abnormalities will trigger changes in them that can also
>become chronic.
>
>But if it ain't broke...
>
>Susan

Probably because I am feeling good. Wouldn't I have other symptoms
if the hormones are out of balance?

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On 4/19/2012 8:00 PM, Karen wrote:

> Probably because I am feeling good. Wouldn't I have other symptoms
> if the hormones are out of balance?

Diabetes can be one, difficulty losing weight can be one. But if it's
not that hard to control either and you're feeling good, why buy trouble?

Susan

'Julie Bove[_2_ Wrote:
> ;1733960']I have been reading all these diet books lately. And
> according to them we
> should eat everything organic, mainly non-starchy veggies, fish and
> chicken.
> And apparently not much else. Brown rice is okay for some. The most
> recent
> book recommended that we (meaning everyone) have a shake for breakfast
> that
> involved rice protein, pea protein, or chia protein with some ice, hemp
> or
> nut milk, a little non-citrus fruit, ground flax, walnut oil and some
> nuts.
> There was another version that involved tofu. On the one hand this Dr.
> was
> telling us not to eat anything that is processed or has a label on it.
> On
> the other hand he is telling us we need to slug this stuff down every
> morning. His recipes also involve canned beans. He said we should feel
>
> free to eat 2 pounds of asparagus or broccoli if we wanted to. Now I
> like
> most vegetables but even I couldn't eat 2 pounds of them.
>
> So that is how the regular person is supposed to eat. Now if we have
> diabetes or a weight problem or some sort of other medical problem then
> our
> diet should be even more limited. I look at what we are supposed to
> eat,
> according to these experts and I just don't even want to eat! It is
> easier
> for me to just go hungry than to have to force down something I really
> dislike.
>
> So Angela pointed out to me that we are seeing countless people walking
>
> around eating Subway, McDonalds, donuts, candy, cookies, ice cream, etc.
>
> They are skinny and they do not have any medical problems. So that kind
> of
> makes me angry. Not that I want to eat the crap that I see them eating.
>
> Because I don't. But part of me gets angry that I can't just eat what I
>
> want to with no consequences.
>
> Why is it some people can do this and we can't?


I also like to eat mostly vegetables and similar these types of foods.
Because these foods are full of energy with out fat, cholesterol and
over protein. Green arteries are help to keep body in better positions.
These list of foods are good for diabetes person.




--
micalhassi

On 4/18/2012 1:56 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> I have been reading all these diet books lately. And according to them we
> should eat everything organic, mainly non-starchy veggies, fish and chicken.
> And apparently not much else. Brown rice is okay for some. The most recent
> book recommended that we (meaning everyone) have a shake for breakfast that
> involved rice protein, pea protein, or chia protein with some ice, hemp or
> nut milk, a little non-citrus fruit, ground flax, walnut oil and some nuts.
> There was another version that involved tofu. On the one hand this Dr. was
> telling us not to eat anything that is processed or has a label on it. On
> the other hand he is telling us we need to slug this stuff down every
> morning. His recipes also involve canned beans. He said we should feel
> free to eat 2 pounds of asparagus or broccoli if we wanted to. Now I like
> most vegetables but even I couldn't eat 2 pounds of them.
>
> So that is how the regular person is supposed to eat. Now if we have
> diabetes or a weight problem or some sort of other medical problem then our
> diet should be even more limited. I look at what we are supposed to eat,
> according to these experts and I just don't even want to eat! It is easier
> for me to just go hungry than to have to force down something I really
> dislike.
>
> So Angela pointed out to me that we are seeing countless people walking
> around eating Subway, McDonalds, donuts, candy, cookies, ice cream, etc.
> They are skinny and they do not have any medical problems. So that kind of
> makes me angry. Not that I want to eat the crap that I see them eating.
> Because I don't. But part of me gets angry that I can't just eat what I
> want to with no consequences.
>
> Why is it some people can do this and we can't?

Differences in metabolism. Most people don't have allergies or
diabetes.

I've found that diet books tend to have a wide variety of ideas
about what people should eat, and seldom agree.

I rarely get angry about food. But then, I usually don't feel
much emotion at all.

On 4/18/2012 9:15 AM, Susan wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> On 4/18/2012 9:58 AM, Karen wrote:
>
>
>> That breakfast shake doesn't even sound good. I think the people
>> eating that junk may appear to not be affected by it medically, but it
>> still could be taking it's toll on them and it just hasn't shown up.
>> With dietary issues it seems to have a cumulative effect. Just like
>> diabetes, some of us have it, but the early stages don't have any
>> glaringly obvious signs until it's gotten more advanced. Same with
>> hypertension and heart disease. You don't see it with them but it
>> could still be affecting them.
>
> Exactly.
>
> I used to be one of those people. Ate crap, ate like a horse, stayed
> skinny.
>
> Susan

Have you thought of eating like a hummingbird? About twice its
weight in food every day.

Robert Miles

On 4/19/2012 10:22 AM, Karen wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 19:11:19 -0400, in alt.food.diabetic, Susan
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> x-no-archive: yes
>>
>> On 4/18/2012 6:23 PM, Karen wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks. Hopefully the T ca is gone for good. I'm 2 years out with
>>> clean scans and blood tests so far. I'm trying to get the weight
>>> down. I find it harder to lose weight now that the thyroid is gone.
>>> I'm going to Weight Watchers for that. I'd be happy to lose 10 lbs.
>>> The 5.5 A1c isn't bad, but the one before that was 6.1. Anyway, I'm
>>> working on it.
>>> Thanks
>>
>> Have you had your other hormones tested since losing your thyroid? They
>> all react and may be out of synch. A lot of folks seem to do better
>> with Tyrosint or Thyrolar, or Naturthroid...
>>
>> Susan
>
> They run many different blood tests every 3 months. TSH,
> thyroglobulin, Free t4, a comp metabolic panel, lipids, A1c and
> fasting glucose. I'm not unhappy with the synthroid I take. I feel
> good most of the time. I take a dose that most people would find make
> them hyperthyroid. That's to discourage any remnant tissues left
> behind from producing any thyroid hormone or growing and spreading.
>
> As far as the weight goes, I can do the weight loss, I just have to
> work harder at it, and that may be age related too. I'm 54 so not a
> spring chicken anymore<g>

You might want to ask for one more - free T3 - at least once. Some
people are unable to do the natural conversion of T4 into the more
active T3, and tend to show thyroid symptoms even when they have a
normal or high value for free T4. Not all doctors recognize this yet.

genitics, i know this is an older thread but truth is as i always say one
size just doesn't fit all, Lee
"Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:jmloi5$ak0$[email protected]..
>I have been reading all these diet books lately. And according to them we
>should eat everything organic, mainly non-starchy veggies, fish and
>chicken. And apparently not much else. Brown rice is okay for some. The
>most recent book recommended that we (meaning everyone) have a shake for
>breakfast that involved rice protein, pea protein, or chia protein with
>some ice, hemp or nut milk, a little non-citrus fruit, ground flax, walnut
>oil and some nuts. There was another version that involved tofu. On the
>one hand this Dr. was telling us not to eat anything that is processed or
>has a label on it. On the other hand he is telling us we need to slug this
>stuff down every morning. His recipes also involve canned beans. He said
>we should feel free to eat 2 pounds of asparagus or broccoli if we wanted
>to. Now I like most vegetables but even I couldn't eat 2 pounds of them.
>
> So that is how the regular person is supposed to eat. Now if we have
> diabetes or a weight problem or some sort of other medical problem then
> our diet should be even more limited. I look at what we are supposed to
> eat, according to these experts and I just don't even want to eat! It is
> easier for me to just go hungry than to have to force down something I
> really dislike.
>
> So Angela pointed out to me that we are seeing countless people walking
> around eating Subway, McDonalds, donuts, candy, cookies, ice cream, etc.
> They are skinny and they do not have any medical problems. So that kind
> of makes me angry. Not that I want to eat the crap that I see them
> eating. Because I don't. But part of me gets angry that I can't just eat
> what I want to with no consequences.
>
> Why is it some people can do this and we can't?
>