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  1. #1
    Nick Cramer Guest

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    Jun bought some Chinese broccoli. Here's a pic.

    http://www.tinypic.info/files/2vkb7tc61o2vrsldjwbp.jpg

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    Evelyn Guest

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    "Nick Cramer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Jun bought some Chinese broccoli. Here's a pic.
    >
    > http://www.tinypic.info/files/2vkb7tc61o2vrsldjwbp.jpg



    Thank you Nick. I know I have never had that.

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  3. #3
    Nicky Guest

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    On 28 Jan 2009 00:05:33 GMT, Nick Cramer <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >Jun bought some Chinese broccoli. Here's a pic.
    >
    >http://www.tinypic.info/files/2vkb7tc61o2vrsldjwbp.jpg


    Yeah, that looks like the stuff Priscilla posted. So, I'm buying
    veggie seeds in the next week or two - just how good IS this stuff,
    Nick? And what does Jun or your daughter do with it?

    Nicky.
    T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
    D&E, 100ug thyroxine
    Last A1c 5.3% BMI 25

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    Peppermint Patootie Guest

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    In article <20090127190911.621$[email protected]>,
    Nick Cramer <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Jun bought some Chinese broccoli. Here's a pic.
    >
    > http://www.tinypic.info/files/2vkb7tc61o2vrsldjwbp.jpg


    Yup! I still have a couple of stalks left in my fridge.

    PP

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    Nick Cramer Guest

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    Nicky <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Nick Cramer <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >Jun bought some Chinese broccoli. Here's a pic.
    > >
    > >http://www.tinypic.info/files/2vkb7tc61o2vrsldjwbp.jpg

    >
    > Yeah, that looks like the stuff Priscilla posted. So, I'm buying
    > veggie seeds in the next week or two - just how good IS this stuff,
    > Nick? And what does Jun or your daughter do with it?


    I really like it, Nicky. It's tenderer and sweeter than European broccoli
    and most of the dark green leafies I've eaten. Jun stir-fries it with a
    little Oyster sauce. Chinese restaurants steam it, then sprinkle some
    Oyster sauce on when they serve it. I only know it as a side dish like
    that.

    Have you tried Bitter Melon (which isn't bitter)? It's real good in soups
    and good for your BG. A morning tea made from thin, dried slices is nice,
    too. When I was living in the mountains in Thailand, I had a big, steaming
    cup of it every morning at sunrise, as I watched the dragonflies devouring
    mosquitos.

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    Nicky Guest

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    On 29 Jan 2009 06:56:44 GMT, Nick Cramer <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >I really like it, Nicky. It's tenderer and sweeter than European broccoli
    >and most of the dark green leafies I've eaten. Jun stir-fries it with a
    >little Oyster sauce. Chinese restaurants steam it, then sprinkle some
    >Oyster sauce on when they serve it. I only know it as a side dish like
    >that.


    Sounds good! I might give it a try. Lovely easy cooking method.

    >Have you tried Bitter Melon (which isn't bitter)?


    ROFL! Oh yes it is - seriously, pucker your mouth for a week
    bitter... it needs to be brined before you even think about using it,
    although for some reason the dried stuff is far less so. Yes, when I
    can get it, I make an excellent Indian pickle with it, or sometimes
    add it to a stir fry. I'm a little bit careful with amounts, though,
    because it's a beta cell stimulator. The Indian name is karela.

    Nicky.
    T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
    D&E, 100ug thyroxine
    Last A1c 5.3% BMI 25

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    Nick Cramer Guest

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    Nicky <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Nick Cramer <[email protected]> wrote:
    > [ . . . ]
    > >Have you tried Bitter Melon (which isn't bitter)?

    >
    > ROFL! Oh yes it is - seriously, pucker your mouth for a week
    > bitter... it needs to be brined before you even think about using it,
    > although for some reason the dried stuff is far less so. Yes, when I
    > can get it, I make an excellent Indian pickle with it, or sometimes
    > add it to a stir fry. I'm a little bit careful with amounts, though,
    > because it's a beta cell stimulator. The Indian name is karela.


    Hmm. Jun doesn't brine it AFAIK. She cuts it in half lengthwise, de-seeds
    it, cuts it into 1" chunks and simmers it in soups, with pork or chicken, I
    think.

    I really like the tea. Doesn't need Splenda or anything.

    I got some nice karela recipes on Google. Thanks, Nicky.

    Beta cell stimulator, eh? I wonder if the fatalajon, sadau and lotus seed
    germ do that, too.

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    Nicky Guest

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    On 29 Jan 2009 09:49:34 GMT, Nick Cramer <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >Nicky <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> Nick Cramer <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> [ . . . ]
    >> >Have you tried Bitter Melon (which isn't bitter)?

    >>
    >> ROFL! Oh yes it is - seriously, pucker your mouth for a week
    >> bitter... it needs to be brined before you even think about using it,
    >> although for some reason the dried stuff is far less so. Yes, when I
    >> can get it, I make an excellent Indian pickle with it, or sometimes
    >> add it to a stir fry. I'm a little bit careful with amounts, though,
    >> because it's a beta cell stimulator. The Indian name is karela.

    >
    >Hmm. Jun doesn't brine it AFAIK.


    Huh - I wonder if we have different things (again)? There's no way you
    could eat the ones I buy without salting it.

    Nicky.
    T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
    D&E, 100ug thyroxine
    Last A1c 5.3% BMI 25

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    Peppermint Patootie Guest

    Default Re: Chinese broccoli

    In article <20090129020029.619$[email protected]>,
    Nick Cramer <[email protected]> wrote:

    > > Yeah, that looks like the stuff Priscilla posted. So, I'm buying
    > > veggie seeds in the next week or two - just how good IS this stuff,
    > > Nick? And what does Jun or your daughter do with it?

    >
    > I really like it, Nicky. It's tenderer and sweeter than European broccoli
    > and most of the dark green leafies I've eaten. Jun stir-fries it with a
    > little Oyster sauce. Chinese restaurants steam it, then sprinkle some
    > Oyster sauce on when they serve it. I only know it as a side dish like
    > that.


    It makes a lovely stir fried beef with broccoli. I season with garlic
    and soy sauce.

    PP

  10. #10
    Nick Cramer Guest

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    Nicky <[email protected]> wrote:
    > On 29 Jan 2009 09:49:34 GMT, Nick Cramer <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >Nicky <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >> Nick Cramer <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >> [ . . . ]
    > >> >Have you tried Bitter Melon (which isn't bitter)?
    > >>
    > >> ROFL! Oh yes it is - seriously, pucker your mouth for a week
    > >> bitter... it needs to be brined before you even think about using it,
    > >> although for some reason the dried stuff is far less so. Yes, when I
    > >> can get it, I make an excellent Indian pickle with it, or sometimes
    > >> add it to a stir fry. I'm a little bit careful with amounts, though,
    > >> because it's a beta cell stimulator. The Indian name is karela.

    > >
    > >Hmm. Jun doesn't brine it AFAIK.

    >
    > Huh - I wonder if we have different things (again)? There's no way you
    > could eat the ones I buy without salting it.


    2 pics, Nicky. The top is Chinese bitter melon, as Jun buys here in Los
    Angeles. The bottom is young bitter melon, as picked in the mountains of
    northern Thailand. Taste similar to me. When Jun gets home, I'll ask her if
    she brines them.

    http://www.tinypic.info/files/okb0zpagybdhe1geuw3f.jpg

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    Nick Cramer Guest

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    Peppermint Patootie <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Nick Cramer <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > > > Yeah, that looks like the stuff Priscilla posted. So, I'm buying
    > > > veggie seeds in the next week or two - just how good IS this stuff,
    > > > Nick? And what does Jun or your daughter do with it?

    > >
    > > I really like it, Nicky. It's tenderer and sweeter than European
    > > broccoli and most of the dark green leafies I've eaten. Jun stir-fries
    > > it with a little Oyster sauce. Chinese restaurants steam it, then
    > > sprinkle some Oyster sauce on when they serve it. I only know it as a
    > > side dish like that.

    >
    > It makes a lovely stir fried beef with broccoli. I season with garlic
    > and soy sauce.


    Jun said that, when she gets home tonight, she's gonna make some with
    garlic, shrimp and oyster sauce. I think she's gonna boil the broc in a
    little water, before tossing it in the wok.

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    Nicky Guest

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    On 30 Jan 2009 04:17:32 GMT, Nick Cramer <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >2 pics, Nicky. The top is Chinese bitter melon, as Jun buys here in Los
    >Angeles. The bottom is young bitter melon, as picked in the mountains of
    >northern Thailand. Taste similar to me. When Jun gets home, I'll ask her if
    >she brines them.
    >
    >http://www.tinypic.info/files/okb0zpagybdhe1geuw3f.jpg


    This is closer to what I can buy:
    http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumb_1...8734Ck0lMr.jpg

    Looks greener and knobblier than yours; maybe we eat 'em more mature,
    or maybe the bitterness is in the skin?

    Nicky.
    T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
    D&E, 100ug thyroxine
    Last A1c 5.3% BMI 25

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    Nick Cramer Guest

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    Nicky <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Nick Cramer <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >2 pics, Nicky. The top is Chinese bitter melon, as Jun buys here in Los
    > >Angeles. The bottom is young bitter melon, as picked in the mountains of
    > >northern Thailand. Taste similar to me. When Jun gets home, I'll ask her
    > >if she brines them.
    > >
    > >http://www.tinypic.info/files/okb0zpagybdhe1geuw3f.jpg

    >
    > This is closer to what I can buy:
    > http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumb_1...8734Ck0lMr.jpg
    >
    > Looks greener and knobblier than yours; maybe we eat 'em more mature,
    > or maybe the bitterness is in the skin?


    Maybe. I dunno. BTW the bottom ones are not young. They're Thai bitter
    melon. Jun says they're more bitter than the Chinese, but made a "yum yum"
    face as she told me how good they are are with Thai Nam Prik (real hot
    sauce)!

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    Peppermint Patootie Guest

    Default Re: Chinese broccoli

    In article <20090129233557.514$[email protected]>,
    Nick Cramer <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Peppermint Patootie <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > Nick Cramer <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > > > > Yeah, that looks like the stuff Priscilla posted. So, I'm buying
    > > > > veggie seeds in the next week or two - just how good IS this stuff,
    > > > > Nick? And what does Jun or your daughter do with it?
    > > >
    > > > I really like it, Nicky. It's tenderer and sweeter than European
    > > > broccoli and most of the dark green leafies I've eaten. Jun stir-fries
    > > > it with a little Oyster sauce. Chinese restaurants steam it, then
    > > > sprinkle some Oyster sauce on when they serve it. I only know it as a
    > > > side dish like that.

    > >
    > > It makes a lovely stir fried beef with broccoli. I season with garlic
    > > and soy sauce.

    >
    > Jun said that, when she gets home tonight, she's gonna make some with
    > garlic, shrimp and oyster sauce. I think she's gonna boil the broc in a
    > little water, before tossing it in the wok.


    After I've stir fried the broccoli for a minute, I pour a little boiling
    water in the kuo (wok), put on a lid, and steam it for a minute or so.
    Then I take out the broccoli, stir fry the meat, return the broccoli,
    and add any final sauce elements.

    PP

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    Peppermint Patootie Guest

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    In article <[email protected]>,
    Nicky <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On 30 Jan 2009 04:17:32 GMT, Nick Cramer <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >2 pics, Nicky. The top is Chinese bitter melon, as Jun buys here in Los
    > >Angeles. The bottom is young bitter melon, as picked in the mountains of
    > >northern Thailand. Taste similar to me. When Jun gets home, I'll ask her if
    > >she brines them.
    > >
    > >http://www.tinypic.info/files/okb0zpagybdhe1geuw3f.jpg

    >
    > This is closer to what I can buy:
    > http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumb_1...8734Ck0lMr.jpg
    >
    > Looks greener and knobblier than yours; maybe we eat 'em more mature,
    > or maybe the bitterness is in the skin?


    One page I read said to parboil the bitter melon for a couple of minutes
    to remove most of the bitterness before stir frying it.

    PP

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    W. Baker Guest

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    Peppermint Patootie <[email protected]> wrote:
    : >
    : > Jun said that, when she gets home tonight, she's gonna make some with
    : > garlic, shrimp and oyster sauce. I think she's gonna boil the broc in a
    : > little water, before tossing it in the wok.

    : After I've stir fried the broccoli for a minute, I pour a little boiling
    : water in the kuo (wok), put on a lid, and steam it for a minute or so.
    : Then I take out the broccoli, stir fry the meat, return the broccoli,
    : and add any final sauce elements.

    : PP

    Thanks for the idea. I have ofen found that the broccoli doesn't cook
    sufficiently in a stir fry, at least fo rmy and my husban's tate.

    Wendy

  17. #17
    Robert Miles Guest

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    "Nicky" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > On 29 Jan 2009 09:49:34 GMT, Nick Cramer <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>Nicky <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>> Nick Cramer <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>> [ . . . ]
    >>> >Have you tried Bitter Melon (which isn't bitter)?
    >>>
    >>> ROFL! Oh yes it is - seriously, pucker your mouth for a week
    >>> bitter... it needs to be brined before you even think about using it,
    >>> although for some reason the dried stuff is far less so. Yes, when I
    >>> can get it, I make an excellent Indian pickle with it, or sometimes
    >>> add it to a stir fry. I'm a little bit careful with amounts, though,
    >>> because it's a beta cell stimulator. The Indian name is karela.

    >>
    >>Hmm. Jun doesn't brine it AFAIK.

    >
    > Huh - I wonder if we have different things (again)? There's no way you
    > could eat the ones I buy without salting it.
    >
    > Nicky.

    ..
    Or could it depend on how fresh it is, or how warm a climate it is
    grown in? Do you know where your is grown?

    Robert



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    Nicky Guest

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    On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:40:08 -0600, "Robert Miles"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Or could it depend on how fresh it is, or how warm a climate it is
    >grown in? Do you know where your is grown?


    Yes, very possible explanation. Mine are probably imported from India
    or Pakistan at this time of year. They're supposed to be dead easy to
    grow - maybe I'll give them a shot and see how they vary.

    Nicky.
    T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
    D&E, 100ug thyroxine
    Last A1c 5.3% BMI 25

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