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  1. #1
    Nick Cramer Guest

    Default Arthritis and diabetes

    Besides being dx'd with T2 almost 20 years ago, I've been developing
    painful arthritis in my shoulders, hips and knees. My wife asked me what
    she can feed me to alleviate the pain.

    The little research I've done suggests Fish such as herring, sardines and
    tuna; garlic, onions, sprouts and cabbage; Brazil nuts, sunflower seeds,
    toasted wheat germ, brown rice, wheat bran and soy beans; almonds, barley,
    beans, avocados and greens; Blueberries, cherries and black cherries.

    Some of those are not real diabetes-friendly. What are the thoughts and
    observations of others? Thanks.

    --
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    families: https://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/ http://anymarine.com/
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    You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~

  2. #2
    Ellen K. Guest

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    I have also heard that fish is very good against arthritis, and that red
    meat is bad for it. From your below list, I would say, yes, definitely make
    sure to include a lot of fish in your diet, and eat everything else in that
    list except the grains.

    Both my parents had it. I know I have some in my knees but thankfully I'm
    nowhere near the condition my folks were in at my age. If there's anything
    I've done that may have contributed to this result, it's probably that I've
    *always* eaten a lot of fish, way before it was recognized as healthy.


    "Nick Cramer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:20101126155623.247$[email protected]..
    > Besides being dx'd with T2 almost 20 years ago, I've been developing
    > painful arthritis in my shoulders, hips and knees. My wife asked me what
    > she can feed me to alleviate the pain.
    >
    > The little research I've done suggests Fish such as herring, sardines and
    > tuna; garlic, onions, sprouts and cabbage; Brazil nuts, sunflower seeds,
    > toasted wheat germ, brown rice, wheat bran and soy beans; almonds, barley,
    > beans, avocados and greens; Blueberries, cherries and black cherries.
    >
    > Some of those are not real diabetes-friendly. What are the thoughts and
    > observations of others? Thanks.
    >
    > --
    > Nick, KI6VAV. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their
    > families: https://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/ http://anymarine.com/
    > http://www.specialops.org/ http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/
    > You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~
    >



  3. #3
    Nick Cramer Guest

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    "Ellen K." <[email protected]> wrote:
    > I have also heard that fish is very good against arthritis, and that red
    > meat is bad for it. From your below list, I would say, yes, definitely
    > make sure to include a lot of fish in your diet, and eat everything else
    > in that list except the grains.


    > "Nick Cramer" <[email protected]> wrote in message


    > > The little research I've done suggests Fish such as herring, sardines
    > > and tuna; garlic, onions, sprouts and cabbage; Brazil nuts, sunflower
    > > seeds, toasted wheat germ, brown rice, wheat bran and soy beans;
    > > almonds, barley, beans, avocados and greens; Blueberries, cherries and
    > > black cherries.
    > >
    > > Some of those are not real diabetes-friendly. What are the thoughts and
    > > observations of others? Thanks.


    We eat a lot of fish, too. Tilapia, salmon, trout, catfish, cod, tuna,
    shrimp, squid, mussels, crab, etc. Garlic in almost everything. Onions,
    sprouts, greens and avocado, too. Don't forget lots of hot chile peppers! I
    do love beef and lamb, also beans. I like blueberries, strawberries and
    blackberries, too. I don't eat grains, except some occasional pin oats,
    grits, cornbread and pumpernickel.

    The arthritis only bothers me when I'm in bed.

    --
    Nick, KI6VAV. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their
    families: https://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/ http://anymarine.com/
    http://www.specialops.org/ http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/
    You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~

  4. #4
    Bill who putters Guest

    Default Re: Arthritis and diabetes

    In article <20101126155623.247$[email protected]>,
    Nick Cramer <[email protected]> wrote:

    > arthritis


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBfuw...eature=related

    Movement chose your own here is a version of Tai Chi Warm-ups.

    --
    Bill S. Jersey USA zone 5 shade garden



  5. #5
    Bill who putters Guest

    Default Re: Arthritis and diabetes

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Bill who putters <[email protected]> wrote:

    > In article <20101126155623.247$[email protected]>,
    > Nick Cramer <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > > arthritis

    >
    > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBfuw...eature=related
    >
    > Movement chose your own here is a version of Tai Chi Warm-ups.


    There is a addition that I was taught.

    Stand up right and hold a cup of water in your hand upright. Bring your
    right hand inward to your chest and cause it to force you to move to
    allow bringing it over your head not spilling. Can do it in reverse
    too as well as both hands at the same time. No water is needed unless
    you like the challenge. Good for back and shoulders.

    MOVE

    --
    Bill S. Jersey USA zone 5 shade garden



  6. #6
    Bill who putters Guest

    Default Re: Arthritis and diabetes

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Bill who putters <[email protected]> wrote:

    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > Bill who putters <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > > In article <20101126155623.247$[email protected]>,
    > > Nick Cramer <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > > > arthritis

    > >
    > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBfuw...eature=related
    > >
    > > Movement chose your own here is a version of Tai Chi Warm-ups.

    >
    > There is a addition that I was taught.
    >
    > Stand up right and hold a cup of water in your hand upright. Bring your
    > right hand inward to your chest and cause it to force you to move to
    > allow bringing it over your head not spilling.

    Words don't take the cup up but take it into your chest forcing
    you to bend your back as you look up and continue the spiral. Some
    things need a hands on teacher for simple things.

    > Can do it in reverse
    > too as well as both hands at the same time. No water is needed unless
    > you like the challenge. Good for back and shoulders.
    >
    > MOVE


    --
    Bill S. Jersey USA zone 5 shade garden



  7. #7
    Nick Cramer Guest

    Default Re: Arthritis and diabetes

    Bill who putters <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Bill who putters <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > Bill who putters <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > > Nick Cramer <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > arthritis
    > > >
    > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBfuw...eature=related
    > > >
    > > > Movement chose your own here is a version of Tai Chi Warm-ups.

    > > [ . . . ]
    > > MOVE


    Thanks, Bill. My wife also encourages me to move more.

    --
    Nick, KI6VAV. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their
    families: https://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/ http://anymarine.com/
    http://www.specialops.org/ http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/
    You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~

  8. #8
    Julie Bove Guest

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    "Nick Cramer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:20101126155623.247$[email protected]..
    > Besides being dx'd with T2 almost 20 years ago, I've been developing
    > painful arthritis in my shoulders, hips and knees. My wife asked me what
    > she can feed me to alleviate the pain.
    >
    > The little research I've done suggests Fish such as herring, sardines and
    > tuna; garlic, onions, sprouts and cabbage; Brazil nuts, sunflower seeds,
    > toasted wheat germ, brown rice, wheat bran and soy beans; almonds, barley,
    > beans, avocados and greens; Blueberries, cherries and black cherries.
    >
    > Some of those are not real diabetes-friendly. What are the thoughts and
    > observations of others? Thanks.


    If you have RA, some think eliminating nightshades and wheat will help. It
    seems to help my mom.

    I have PA which *knock wood* is not acting up at the moment. I take
    turmeric for my psoriasis and it really seems to help. I have not had a
    patch of psoriasis for probably over a year now.



  9. #9
    Julie Bove Guest

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    "Nick Cramer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:20101126171340.319$[email protected]..
    > "Ellen K." <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> I have also heard that fish is very good against arthritis, and that red
    >> meat is bad for it. From your below list, I would say, yes, definitely
    >> make sure to include a lot of fish in your diet, and eat everything else
    >> in that list except the grains.

    >
    >> "Nick Cramer" <[email protected]> wrote in message

    >
    >> > The little research I've done suggests Fish such as herring, sardines
    >> > and tuna; garlic, onions, sprouts and cabbage; Brazil nuts, sunflower
    >> > seeds, toasted wheat germ, brown rice, wheat bran and soy beans;
    >> > almonds, barley, beans, avocados and greens; Blueberries, cherries and
    >> > black cherries.
    >> >
    >> > Some of those are not real diabetes-friendly. What are the thoughts and
    >> > observations of others? Thanks.

    >
    > We eat a lot of fish, too. Tilapia, salmon, trout, catfish, cod, tuna,
    > shrimp, squid, mussels, crab, etc. Garlic in almost everything. Onions,
    > sprouts, greens and avocado, too. Don't forget lots of hot chile peppers!
    > I
    > do love beef and lamb, also beans. I like blueberries, strawberries and
    > blackberries, too. I don't eat grains, except some occasional pin oats,
    > grits, cornbread and pumpernickel.
    >
    > The arthritis only bothers me when I'm in bed.


    I talk to someone online who says the same thing. I have other problems
    which also cause pain, but normally going to bed relieves the pain. I do
    have to be very careful though. There are only certain positions I can be
    in or things start to cramp up on me.



  10. #10
    Storrmmee Guest

    Default Re: Arthritis and diabetes

    two things spring to mind, broccoli has naturally occuring aspirine, sp and
    you might track your food in a food journal for a month to see if there are
    foods that make it worse, if i eat egg plant i am miserabley stiff for days,
    if i don't get a migraine to go with the stiffness i consider myself
    lucky... the research says there is no hard evidence to support this but
    food i eat directly affects how my joints feel, so along with eating what is
    good, look at what might inflame your particular joints,

    Lee
    "Nick Cramer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:20101126155623.247$[email protected]..
    > Besides being dx'd with T2 almost 20 years ago, I've been developing
    > painful arthritis in my shoulders, hips and knees. My wife asked me what
    > she can feed me to alleviate the pain.
    >
    > The little research I've done suggests Fish such as herring, sardines and
    > tuna; garlic, onions, sprouts and cabbage; Brazil nuts, sunflower seeds,
    > toasted wheat germ, brown rice, wheat bran and soy beans; almonds, barley,
    > beans, avocados and greens; Blueberries, cherries and black cherries.
    >
    > Some of those are not real diabetes-friendly. What are the thoughts and
    > observations of others? Thanks.
    >
    > --
    > Nick, KI6VAV. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their
    > families: https://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/ http://anymarine.com/
    > http://www.specialops.org/ http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/
    > You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~




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    Storrmmee Guest

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    look at different matress that is more joint friendly, Lee
    "Nick Cramer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:20101126171340.319$[email protected]..
    > "Ellen K." <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> I have also heard that fish is very good against arthritis, and that red
    >> meat is bad for it. From your below list, I would say, yes, definitely
    >> make sure to include a lot of fish in your diet, and eat everything else
    >> in that list except the grains.

    >
    >> "Nick Cramer" <[email protected]> wrote in message

    >
    >> > The little research I've done suggests Fish such as herring, sardines
    >> > and tuna; garlic, onions, sprouts and cabbage; Brazil nuts, sunflower
    >> > seeds, toasted wheat germ, brown rice, wheat bran and soy beans;
    >> > almonds, barley, beans, avocados and greens; Blueberries, cherries and
    >> > black cherries.
    >> >
    >> > Some of those are not real diabetes-friendly. What are the thoughts and
    >> > observations of others? Thanks.

    >
    > We eat a lot of fish, too. Tilapia, salmon, trout, catfish, cod, tuna,
    > shrimp, squid, mussels, crab, etc. Garlic in almost everything. Onions,
    > sprouts, greens and avocado, too. Don't forget lots of hot chile peppers!
    > I
    > do love beef and lamb, also beans. I like blueberries, strawberries and
    > blackberries, too. I don't eat grains, except some occasional pin oats,
    > grits, cornbread and pumpernickel.
    >
    > The arthritis only bothers me when I'm in bed.
    >
    > --
    > Nick, KI6VAV. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their
    > families: https://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/ http://anymarine.com/
    > http://www.specialops.org/ http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/
    > You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~




  12. #12
    Storrmmee Guest

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    please talk more about this, what brand and how much, any research? Lee
    "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:icq5tg$cs2$[email protected]..
    >
    > "Nick Cramer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:20101126155623.247$[email protected]..
    >> Besides being dx'd with T2 almost 20 years ago, I've been developing
    >> painful arthritis in my shoulders, hips and knees. My wife asked me what
    >> she can feed me to alleviate the pain.
    >>
    >> The little research I've done suggests Fish such as herring, sardines and
    >> tuna; garlic, onions, sprouts and cabbage; Brazil nuts, sunflower seeds,
    >> toasted wheat germ, brown rice, wheat bran and soy beans; almonds,
    >> barley,
    >> beans, avocados and greens; Blueberries, cherries and black cherries.
    >>
    >> Some of those are not real diabetes-friendly. What are the thoughts and
    >> observations of others? Thanks.

    >
    > If you have RA, some think eliminating nightshades and wheat will help.
    > It seems to help my mom.
    >
    > I have PA which *knock wood* is not acting up at the moment. I take
    > turmeric for my psoriasis and it really seems to help. I have not had a
    > patch of psoriasis for probably over a year now.
    >




  13. #13
    Nick Cramer Guest

    Default Re: Arthritis and diabetes

    "Storrmmee" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > two things spring to mind, broccoli has naturally occuring aspirine, sp
    > and you might track your food in a food journal for a month to see if
    > there are foods that make it worse, if i eat egg plant i am miserabley
    > stiff for days, if i don't get a migraine to go with the stiffness i
    > consider myself lucky... the research says there is no hard evidence to
    > support this but food i eat directly affects how my joints feel, so along
    > with eating what is good, look at what might inflame your particular
    > joints,


    > "Nick Cramer" <[email protected]> wrote in message


    > > Besides being dx'd with T2 almost 20 years ago, I've been developing
    > > painful arthritis in my shoulders, hips and knees. My wife asked me
    > > what she can feed me to alleviate the pain.
    > > []


    Thanks, Lee. Jun manages to cook broccoli in ways that I can tolerate the
    taste of. As to tracking my food, that's not very likely. Eggplant is one
    of my favorites. I haven't noticed a relationship between eating it and my
    arthritis pain. Even if I did, I would still eat eggplant. They say to
    avoid red meat, which I need to maintain my red blood count and satisfy my
    primitive blood lust! They also say to avoid dairy, but I love cheeses,
    sour cream and yogurt.

    At least I've minimized the things that raise my blood glucose! ;-)

    --
    Nick, KI6VAV. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their
    families: https://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/ http://anymarine.com/
    http://www.specialops.org/ http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/
    You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~

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    Nick Cramer Guest

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    "Storrmmee" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > look at different matress that is more joint friendly, Lee
    > "Nick Cramer" <n_cramerSPA[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > "Ellen K." <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >> "Nick Cramer" <[email protected]> wrote in message

    [ . . . ]

    Thanks, Lee. I'll look into putting a foam pad on the mattress.

    --
    Nick, KI6VAV. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their
    families: https://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/ http://anymarine.com/
    http://www.specialops.org/ http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/
    You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~

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    Storrmmee Guest

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    our friend gramby got one of those memory foam deals, the flat not egg
    shell, she says it has helped her back annd shoulders, she says part of it
    is the support but also it is very warm to sleep on and she is convinced
    that is also part of it, Lee
    "Nick Cramer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:20101127160439.691$[email protected]..
    > "Storrmmee" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> look at different matress that is more joint friendly, Lee
    >> "Nick Cramer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> > "Ellen K." <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> >> "Nick Cramer" <[email protected]> wrote in message

    > [ . . . ]
    >
    > Thanks, Lee. I'll look into putting a foam pad on the mattress.
    >
    > --
    > Nick, KI6VAV. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their
    > families: https://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/ http://anymarine.com/
    > http://www.specialops.org/ http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/
    > You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~




  16. #16
    Storrmmee Guest

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    and you must balance quaality of life with quantity, i love egg plant, but i
    have really to eliminate it on all except the rarest of occasion, the ER
    costs added to the other things just make it a bad food value,. dairy in
    some form bothers my mom but not in others, again, just see on which days it
    worse, and its i am sure different for each of us... there are some other
    food that have the anti inflamatory action of broccoli but i can't remember
    which ones, Lee
    "Nick Cramer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:20101127160052.696$[email protected]..
    > "Storrmmee" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> two things spring to mind, broccoli has naturally occuring aspirine, sp
    >> and you might track your food in a food journal for a month to see if
    >> there are foods that make it worse, if i eat egg plant i am miserabley
    >> stiff for days, if i don't get a migraine to go with the stiffness i
    >> consider myself lucky... the research says there is no hard evidence to
    >> support this but food i eat directly affects how my joints feel, so along
    >> with eating what is good, look at what might inflame your particular
    >> joints,

    >
    >> "Nick Cramer" <[email protected]> wrote in message

    >
    >> > Besides being dx'd with T2 almost 20 years ago, I've been developing
    >> > painful arthritis in my shoulders, hips and knees. My wife asked me
    >> > what she can feed me to alleviate the pain.
    >> > []

    >
    > Thanks, Lee. Jun manages to cook broccoli in ways that I can tolerate the
    > taste of. As to tracking my food, that's not very likely. Eggplant is one
    > of my favorites. I haven't noticed a relationship between eating it and my
    > arthritis pain. Even if I did, I would still eat eggplant. They say to
    > avoid red meat, which I need to maintain my red blood count and satisfy my
    > primitive blood lust! They also say to avoid dairy, but I love cheeses,
    > sour cream and yogurt.
    >
    > At least I've minimized the things that raise my blood glucose! ;-)
    >
    > --
    > Nick, KI6VAV. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their
    > families: https://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/ http://anymarine.com/
    > http://www.specialops.org/ http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/
    > You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~




  17. #17
    Julie Bove Guest

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    "Storrmmee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > look at different matress that is more joint friendly, Lee


    Another thing I discovered when Angela was little was multiple pillows. I
    had been diagnosed with diabetes but not the problems that caused the pain.
    I was so exhausted, I would just lie down on the floor because I couldn't go
    anywhere else. Angela would put a pillow under my head. And then under one
    hand, the other hand, each foot, my elbows, however many pillows she could
    find! I had a lot of little throw pillows because she liked to play that
    the floor was hot lava. You couldn't step on the floor. Only the pillows.

    Anyway... I noticed that wherever she put a pillow, there was no pain. So
    now I keep a lot of pillows in the bed.



  18. #18
    Julie Bove Guest

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    "Storrmmee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > our friend gramby got one of those memory foam deals, the flat not egg
    > shell, she says it has helped her back annd shoulders, she says part of it
    > is the support but also it is very warm to sleep on and she is convinced
    > that is also part of it, Lee


    I did my sleep study on one of those things and it caused more pain for me.
    I could not move at all. And when I stay in one position for too long, I
    cramp up. The Dr. said I kept kicking my legs. I did because they were so
    cramped. And being hooked to all those wires meant I couldn't stand up and
    apply pressure to my legs to relieve the cramps!



  19. #19
    Julie Bove Guest

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    "Storrmmee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > please talk more about this, what brand and how much, any research? Lee


    I buy my turmeric through Swanson. I don't know the exact dose. I take it
    with each meal as it says on the bottle. Since I don't eat lunch, I do take
    it with my bedtime snack. Some people find merely adding it to their diet,
    as in curry is enough for them. I just don't like the taste of it so take
    it in pill form.



  20. #20
    Storrmmee Guest

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    thanks, Lee
    "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:ics1ap$nd9$[email protected]..
    >
    > "Storrmmee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]..
    >> please talk more about this, what brand and how much, any research? Lee

    >
    > I buy my turmeric through Swanson. I don't know the exact dose. I take it
    > with each meal as it says on the bottle. Since I don't eat lunch, I do
    > take it with my bedtime snack. Some people find merely adding it to their
    > diet, as in curry is enough for them. I just don't like the taste of it
    > so take it in pill form.
    >




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