Dave the SPAMMER wrote:
>
> On Jul 31, 2:11 pm, Greg Esres <ges...@boundvortex.com> wrote:
> Greg wrote:
>
> > BTW, I noticed that you made no attempt to refute the data he posted
> > in response to your original post. That leads me to believe that you
> > consider it accurate.
>
> As I mentioned, some of what Mark says is valuable, but he ends up
> losing friends everywhere he goes because he tries to censor others.
> Just another usenet bully, and there are a lot of those. In the case
What the spammer calls "bully" is pointing out that
he doesn't always write his own material. He follows
the blogspot model of stealing content, posting it to his
blogspot web site under his own name, and collecting the
credit and profits for doing it. A very unwholesome
business model, indeed.
And when he's called out on it, he goes ballistic.
He responds with insults and lies.
Here is a typical example, interspersed with my comments.
Quotes from his plagiarized posting are preceded with "> ".
My comments are in square brackets [ ].
The original source article that was plagiarized is here:
http://news.emory.edu/Releases/dolph...198011396.html
The remaining quotes without the "> " are from that web page.
Dave the SPAMMER wrote in a posting on 12/19/07:
>
> There are some really weird therapies out there on the nutty
> side of alternative healthcare. One of these strange alternative
> therapies is "Dolphin therapy," and it has recently been
> called a dangerous fad by Emery researchers who warn us that
> not only is this a fraud being perpetrated on people who are
> often quite ill, the practice mistreats these animals who have
> no desire to be rounded up and used as "therapy" for humans.
[That's Emory University, of course.]
> These Emery scientsts say that people suffering from chronic
> mental or physical disabilities should NOT resort to a
> dolphin-assisted therapy experience, or what is often
> referred to as DAT. "Dolphin-assisted therapy is not
> a valid treatment for any disorder," says Lori Marino,
> a leading dolphin and whale researcher. "We want to get
> the word out that it's a lose-lose situation, both
> for people and for dolphins."
People suffering from chronic mental or physical disabilities
should not resort to a dolphin "healing" experience, warn two
researchers from Emory University.
"Dolphin-assisted therapy is not a valid treatment for any
disorder," says Marino, a leading dolphin and whale researcher.
"We want to get the word out that it's a lose-lose situation
-- for people and for dolphins."
> Doesn't swimming with dolphins sound like a great thing
> to do, and possiblly even therapeutic? However, no scientific
> evidence exists for any benefit from DAT. People who spend
> thousands of dollars for DAT don't just lose out financially,
> they put themselves, and the dolphin, at risk of injury or
> infection. And they are supporting an industry that takes
> dolphins from the wild in a brutal process that often
> leaves several dolphins dead for every surviving captive.
While swimming with dolphins may be a fun, novel experience,
no scientific evidence exists for any long-term benefit from
DAT, Marino says. She adds that people who spend thousands
of dollars for DAT don't just lose out financially - they put
themselves, and the dolphin, at risk of injury or infection.
And they are supporting an industry that - outside of the
United States - takes dolphins from the wild in a brutal
process that often leaves several dolphins dead for every
surviving captive.
> Marino her colleagues at Emery reviewed five studies
> published during the past eight years and found that
> the claims for efficacy for DAT were invalid. Their
> conclusions were published recently in Anthrozoology,
> the journal of the International Society for
> Anthrozoology, in a paper entitled "Dolphin-Assisted
> Therapy: More Flawed Data and More Flawed Conclusions."
Marino and Lilienfeld [at Emory University] reviewed
five studies published during the past eight years and
found that the claims for efficacy for DAT were invalid.
Their conclusions were published recently in Anthrozoology,
the journal of the International Society for Anthrozoology,
in a paper entitled "Dolphin-Assisted Therapy: More Flawed
Data and More Flawed Conclusions."
> While Marino is against taking dolphins from
> the wild and holding them captive for any purpose,
> she finds DAT especially egregious, because
> the people who are being exploited are the most
> vulnerable--including desperate parents who are
> willing to try anything to help a child with
> a disability. Many people are under the impression
> that dolphins would never harm a human. "In reality,
> injury is a very real possibility when you place
> a child in a tank with a 400-pound wild animal that
> may be traumatized from being captured," Marino says.
While Marino is against taking dolphins from the wild
and holding them captive for any purpose, she finds DAT
especially egregious, because the people who are being
exploited are the most vulnerable - including desperate
parents who are willing to try anything to help a child
with a disability.
Many people are under the impression that dolphins would
never harm a human. "In reality, injury is a very real
possibility when you place a child in a tank with a
400-pound wild animal that may be traumatized from
being captured," Marino says.
> In some countries dolphins are often taken from
> the wild. "If people knew how these animals were
> captured, I don't think they would want swim with
> them in a tank or participate in DAT," Marino says,
> referring to an annual "dolphin drive" in Japan.
Dolphins are bred in captivity in U.S. marine parks,
but in other countries they are often taken from the wild.
"If people knew how these animals were captured, I don't
think they would want to swim with them in a tank or
participate in DAT," Marino says, referring to an annual
"dolphin drive" in Japan.
> "During the Japanese dolphin drives, hundreds
> of animals are killed, or panicked and die of
> heart attacks, in water that's red with their
> blood, while trainers from facilities around
> the world pick out young animals for their
> marine parks. They hoist them out of the water,
> sometimes by their tail flukes, and take them
> away." Each live dolphin can bring a fisherman
> $50,000 or more.
"During the dolphin drives hundreds of animals are killed,
or panicked and die of heart attacks, in water that's red
with their blood, while trainers from facilities around
the world pick out young animals for their marine parks.
They hoist them out of the water, sometimes by their
tail flukes, and take them away." Each live dolphin can
bring a fisherman $50,000 or more, she says.
> Dolphins appear to be one of the most loved
> --and most exploited-- animals in the world.
[Exploited by a spammer trying to drive traffic to his
commercial blogspot web site, yes.]
Emory University is one of the nation's leading private
research universities and a member of the Association
of American Universities. Known for its demanding
academics, outstanding undergraduate college of arts
and sciences, highly ranked professional schools and
state-of-the-art research facilities, Emory is ranked
as one of the country's top 20 national universities
by U.S. News & World Report. In addition to its nine
schools, the university encompasses The Carter Center,
Yerkes National Primate Research Center and Emory
Healthcare, the state's largest and most comprehensive
health care system.