On Nov 16, 9:56�am, "Yves" <tychonREMOVETHEOBVI...@pt.lu> wrote:
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> On Nov 16, 12:53?am, cwdjrxyz <spamtr...@cwdjr.info> wrote:
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> > On Nov 15, 9:17?pm, DaleW <Dwmi...@aol.com> wrote:
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> > > On Nov 15, 8:59?pm, cwdjrxyz <spamtr...@cwdjr.info> wrote:
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> > > > The wine was Bonnes-Mares 1990, Comte de Vogue, bottle # 00624. There
> > > > were no cork issues, and the fill was quite high. ?The wine is still
> > > > rather full colored. It is now mature, but it might improve a bit more
> > > > and likely will last many more years. The bouquet is quite intense
> > > > with cherries, a hint of strawberries, and something floral coming to
> > > > mind. Tannins are resolved. There is plenty of fruit in the taste, and
> > > > the acid level is correct. The finish is fairly long. While perhaps
> > > > not the red Burgundy of the vintage for 1990, it is not very far
> > > > behind the very best. Unfortunately I only bought this one bottle
> > > > shortly after it was released. I do have a few bottles of de Vogue's
> > > > 1990 Musigny VV, and hopefully it will be a bit better than this wine,
> > > > but one could hardly complain much if it is not and is only just as
> > > > good as the Bonnes Mares.
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> > > I hope for your sake that the Musigny rocks! But in interest of full
> > > disclosure,it seems to be the one of the most heralded underachievers
> > > of the last 20 years. For a VERY expensive wine, lots of people have
> > > found it...lacking. I hope that your bottles show better. I look
> > > forward to your notes (I always do, actually!)
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> > I have not seen any recent tasting notes for de Vogue's 1990 Musigny.
> > However Clive Coates, as mentioned in his book Cote d'Or, tasted it
> > four times early on and he says all of his notes agree that this is
> > one of the wines of the vintage and he gives it his rather rare 20.0
> > point out of 20 points rating. He suggests drinking from 2000-2030. Of
> > course this does not prove that the wine will have developed as well
> > as expected - only tasting of the mature wine will tell. I agree that
> > some Musigny from this estate has not been up to what is expected for
> > the vintage in some years. For example, La Tache seems to be more
> > reliable, but then it costs much more than even the de Vogue Musigny.
> > Of course in the early 1990's neither of the mentioned wines was as
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> Not sure I've ever had a Vogue that has lived up to expectations but
> to e fair, I don't think I've ever had one that is fully mature and
> I've had them up to twenty years old.
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> Back in 1992, I bought six bottles of Bonnes Mares by de Vog�e. The were as
> good as red Burgundy gets, especially between 1997 and 2001. The last two
> bottles tasted in 2004 and 2006, while being enjoyable, showed some signsof
> fading.
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> As I am just sitting at this keyboard, can I just ask the Burgundy geeks
> among you if your cellars are absolutely perfect (temperature and
> humidity-wise)?
> My own cellar has less than ideal temperature variations (14 �C in winter,
> 19 � to 20� in summer) and, more often than not, I am disappointed by the
> evolution of Burgundies, whereas there is almost never a problem with
> Bordeaux. Any comments?
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> Thanks
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Mine is 55F/ 70%RH year around in a temp and humidity controlled
cellar.