"Bi!!" <rvwrlee@aol.com> wrote in message
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On Nov 16, 12:53?am, cwdjrxyz <spamtr...@cwdjr.info> wrote:
> On Nov 15, 9:17?pm, DaleW <Dwmi...@aol.com> wrote:
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> > On Nov 15, 8:59?pm, cwdjrxyz <spamtr...@cwdjr.info> wrote:
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> > > The wine was Bonnes-Mares 1990, Comte de Vogue, bottle # 00624. There
> > > were no cork issues, and the fill was quite high. ?The wine is still
> > > rather full colored. It is now mature, but it might improve a bit more
> > > and likely will last many more years. The bouquet is quite intense
> > > with cherries, a hint of strawberries, and something floral coming to
> > > mind. Tannins are resolved. There is plenty of fruit in the taste, and
> > > the acid level is correct. The finish is fairly long. While perhaps
> > > not the red Burgundy of the vintage for 1990, it is not very far
> > > behind the very best. Unfortunately I only bought this one bottle
> > > shortly after it was released. I do have a few bottles of de Vogue's
> > > 1990 Musigny VV, and hopefully it will be a bit better than this wine,
> > > but one could hardly complain much if it is not and is only just as
> > > good as the Bonnes Mares.
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> > I hope for your sake that the Musigny rocks! But in interest of full
> > disclosure,it seems to be the one of the most heralded underachievers
> > of the last 20 years. For a VERY expensive wine, lots of people have
> > found it...lacking. I hope that your bottles show better. I look
> > forward to your notes (I always do, actually!)
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> I have not seen any recent tasting notes for de Vogue's 1990 Musigny.
> However Clive Coates, as mentioned in his book Cote d'Or, tasted it
> four times early on and he says all of his notes agree that this is
> one of the wines of the vintage and he gives it his rather rare 20.0
> point out of 20 points rating. He suggests drinking from 2000-2030. Of
> course this does not prove that the wine will have developed as well
> as expected - only tasting of the mature wine will tell. I agree that
> some Musigny from this estate has not been up to what is expected for
> the vintage in some years. For example, La Tache seems to be more
> reliable, but then it costs much more than even the de Vogue Musigny.
> Of course in the early 1990's neither of the mentioned wines was as
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Not sure I've ever had a Vogue that has lived up to expectations but
to e fair, I don't think I've ever had one that is fully mature and
I've had them up to twenty years old.


Back in 1992, I bought six bottles of Bonnes Mares by de Vogüe. The were as
good as red Burgundy gets, especially between 1997 and 2001. The last two
bottles tasted in 2004 and 2006, while being enjoyable, showed some signs of
fading.

As I am just sitting at this keyboard, can I just ask the Burgundy geeks
among you if your cellars are absolutely perfect (temperature and
humidity-wise)?
My own cellar has less than ideal temperature variations (14 °C in winter,
19 ° to 20° in summer) and, more often than not, I am disappointed by the
evolution of Burgundies, whereas there is almost never a problem with
Bordeaux. Any comments?

Thanks

Yves